2020 P1 Registration Exercise for 2021 In-take

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Oh my. Typo many many that’s what you get for trying to type on a phone and on the go. But yah, I hope my point is clear.

[Fatte]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"1989090\" time=\"1596459902\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1989090 time=1596459902 user_id=53606]
I kinda agree with your logic.

But there are certain (albeit rare) situations where SCs would apply to these schools in phase 2C. Eg. If they are not <1km of any school. Sometimes they may have a school 1-2km but it’s too popular & ballots at <1km so no chance for them. In such cases, SCs should just apply straight to these schools in 2C.

Happened to one of my friends who lives near NUS. No school nearby and Qifa was a bit too risky. Didn’t like Pei Tong so chose BTPS and quite happy with life there now.[/quote]

Yes, I agree there will always be such rare (as you say) cases, as with each year. Just that the risk for the majority \"normal\" cases this year is much lower than prior years.

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Fatte\" post_id=\"1989083\" time=\"1596457676\" user_id=\"175592:

Hi Lexy. Let me clarify. This is not about taking more risk than before - actually the risk is much lesser. If we all wanted safety, then we will have much less balloting than we actually do. But let's admit it, the fact is people do take risks - given it's worth the reward (of getting into a highly regarded school).

So in previous years, if the risk of not getting through even the back-up school was x%, then this year the risk is much much lower (yes near-zero, in my opinion). SCs in these areas can now easily opt for their ideal / highly regarded schools during 2C - because there is near-zero chance (vs prior years) that PRs can take up 'too many' vacancies at 2C, given these strong PR limits imposed by the MOE above (in favour of SCs).

This will leave 110 - 150 seats for SCs (even if they don't make it during 2C) to easily get their back-up school during 2CS. The only risk in previous years was of PRs taking up too many seats in these schools, and now the MOE has eliminated that risk - making it easier than ever before for SCs to try for their most preferred schools.

And that’s your end up with NYPS, or CFS in Yishun, or NCPS IN Sengkang, or MTS in Punggol, and many others. Preference aside, there are basically no risk in not applying for these schools. No other equivalent schools to share the oxygen in the neighborhood. As you alternative for 2C will still be available in 2CS, everyone is encouraged to try.

With BTPS even more unlikely to run out of places, expect to see even more people trying for the schools in the same neighborhood.

Exactly, that's what I'm saying as well. Even if the more famous schools are a lottery, it's at no cost because the backup school is definitely available in 2CS.

I think people have understood this. After all, the stats released tonight show an over-subscription in Henry Park and several others in the Bukit Timah area, whereas BTPS hasn't even touched the PR limit number (at least as yet), which is quite telling. Just goes to show that after several years, SCs are able to freely apply for the well regarded schools, because they know they'll still easily get their backup.

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Lexy\" post_id=\"1989110\" time=\"1596465150\" user_id=\"12180:

Fatte\" post_id=\"1989083\" time=\"1596457676\" user_id=\"175592:

[quote=Lexy post_id=1989079 time=1596455915 user_id=12180]
Don’t look at the number by itself. It doesn’t guarantee you a place. What is the difference is if the usual PR number is say 50, and now the limit is 40. The maximum difference is 10.

Imagine every SC adopt the same strategy, all go for preferred school and more disappointment and all go 2Cs together, ballot again?

A system can only do so much, human will try to out smart it, then outsmart themselves.

Hi Lexy. Let me clarify. This is not about taking more risk than before - actually the risk is much lesser. If we all wanted safety, then we will have much less balloting than we actually do. But let's admit it, the fact is people do take risks - given it's worth the reward (of getting into a highly regarded school).

So in previous years, if the risk of not getting through even the back-up school was x%, then this year the risk is much much lower (yes near-zero, in my opinion). SCs in these areas can now easily opt for their ideal / highly regarded schools during 2C - because there is near-zero chance (vs prior years) that PRs can take up 'too many' vacancies at 2C, given these strong PR limits imposed by the MOE above (in favour of SCs).

This will leave 110 - 150 seats for SCs (even if they don't make it during 2C) to easily get their back-up school during 2CS. The only risk in previous years was of PRs taking up too many seats in these schools, and now the MOE has eliminated that risk - making it easier than ever before for SCs to try for their most preferred schools.

I understand your point here. When MOE stated vast majority, we wont know for sure what is the concentration of the 10 schools. I kind of understand the point of some safety net in etc. But there is always a counter balance in this.

So the question is, when you feel safer int he choices in 2Cs, what would more parents will do in 2C? Is it in a way tilted towards what rosyth northland, southview will be? 4-5 times over subscribed?[/quote]Indeed. As it should be. If it was earlier over subscribed 2-3 times because some of us prioritized safety, well it can now be 4-5 times over-subscribed, because safety has been kind of assured by the MOE by limiting PRs significantly. Actually in a way the MOE has \"democratized\" the leading schools, by allowing all SCS to freely apply for them... by taking away the \"backup 2CS risk\" (in the case of these 10 schools, I mean).

[Jfxu181]

Yes,filling not good since 2014(2:1) already failed to balloting for my Son,wish God bless us,but for me also not much choice since within 1KM only JunYuan & St hilda’s, otherwise will apply Poi Ching for 2C stage.

[zac's mum]

Jfxu181\" post_id=\"1989137\" time=\"1596500885\" user_id=\"91455:

Yes,filling not good since 2014(2:1) already failed to balloting for my Son,wish God bless us,but for me also not much choice since within 1KM only JunYuan & St hilda's, otherwise will apply Poi Ching for 2C stage.

You can go for 2C balloting either Junyuan or St Hilda’s. Junyuan has better odds than St Hilda’s, see whether u prefer better odds or not. It’s like c@sino really.

2CS I think u have plenty of choices. Those that I listed for you.

[Lexy]

Jfxu181\" post_id=\"1989137\" time=\"1596500885\" user_id=\"91455:

Yes,filling not good since 2014(2:1) already failed to balloting for my Son,wish God bless us,but for me also not much choice since within 1KM only JunYuan & St hilda's, otherwise will apply Poi Ching for 2C stage.

for your distance, avoid Poi Ching, its balloting within 1km.

[podflower23]

Hi there! need some expert advice… am keen to try for DLS <2km but not sure will need to ballot or no?


My 1<km is Lakeside (backup), 1-2km is Rulang, Shuqun! Thanks so much in advance!

[Lexy]

podflower23\" post_id=\"1989210\" time=\"1596524652\" user_id=\"187528:

Hi there! need some expert advice.. am keen to try for DLS <2km but not sure will need to ballot or no?

My 1<km is Lakeside (backup), 1-2km is Rulang, Shuqun! Thanks so much in advance!

Rulang and Shuqun, avoid due to your distance, these 2 will be a few times over subscribed and ballot within 1km.

I presume you are using SD since the CCK school and JW school aint that near.

Lakside should be safe for you as it looks gg for a ballot for >2km.

For DLS, look quite safe for 1-2km SC. (half guess this will end up PR within 1km ballot)

[Davischew]

Day 2 updated. Numbers are clearer now. More to come.