Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"1991128\" time=\"1597555407\" user_id=\"14025:
Hotels and chalet are heavily used, exhibition halls are converted, part of army camp and I even notice Big Box at Jurong opposite Jems kind of being used as a covid facility [screening and housing of patients? Not too sure]. Those purpose built one seems to be the tentage type which should be temporary in nature [The one at Tg Pagar Port?]. Inevitably, they cost money and in view of the pandemic and speed of outbreak at the initial stage, these facilities have to be built to cope with the spread. Even now may be too early to say that the outbreak has been contained and we can confidently say we will see fewer cases daily going forward.
I wonder what happened to those earlier built isolation facilities -
I see more imported cases than community cases.
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HVR\" post_id=\"1991135\" time=\"1597559731\" user_id=\"32808:
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"1991128\" time=\"1597555407\" user_id=\"14025:
Agree. We MUST NOT let our guard down. These temporary built facilities are not waiting to be developed. Readiness to contain health & spread of diseases more critical. There’s also looming news of other swine pandemic & new strains of bird flu, but guess borders are not widely opened it’s not widespread now. If it spreads, big headache for frontliners to juggle & our own dengue situation.. Inevitably, they cost money and in view of the pandemic and speed of outbreak at the initial stage, these facilities have to be built to cope with the spread. Even now may be too early to say that the outbreak has been contained and we can confidently say we will see fewer cases daily going forward.
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"1991139\" time=\"1597564047\" user_id=\"14025:
It’s a comfort dorm cases coming down to 2-digits. Hopefully single digits & contractors can get back to work & Bz. MIL’s house waiting for reno to be completed after FIL passed. I’m sure many needs jobS to keep going.
I see more imported cases than community cases.
Wonder why govt’s don’t close the incoming arrivals to stem the imported cases? But I guess some are students and others caregivers. Hope they’re given tighter quarantine watch to segregate fr main community. -
Estéema\" post_id=\"1991142\" time=\"1597566086\" user_id=\"66413:
I share the same view. We cannot close our border entirely. First and foremost, all that we are needed are imported, EVERYTHING. Only the air is free but according to certain Indonesian politician some time back, even that is down to their generosity because their Borneo forest generated the oxygen for us. If we close our border totally, we will start to starve. People may then say just allow food to be imported but nothing else. But food do not arrive in Singapore for free, we have to pay for them and I am sure everyone knows it. However, they don't want to think how we generate money to pay for them. We generate the money by allowing investment, by playing a role in world finance, trade, shipment, support businesses etc and we can't do that if the border is shut down to everyone.
It’s a comfort dorm cases coming down to 2-digits. Hopefully single digits & contractors can get back to work & Bz. MIL’s house waiting for reno to be completed after FIL passed. I’m sure many needs jobS to keep going.starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"1991139\" time=\"1597564047\" user_id=\"14025:
I see more imported cases than community cases.
Wonder why govt’s don’t close the incoming arrivals to stem the imported cases? But I guess some are students and others caregivers. Hope they’re given tighter quarantine watch to segregate fr main community. -
While papers said more became jobless, there are some jobs in shortage eg security guards
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Nebbermind\" post_id=\"1990873\" time=\"1597375436\" user_id=\"15571:
Last time maybe but after one of the shophouses in Geylang caught fire, rules have now been tightened and the landlords are not allowed to pack too many FWs in old apartments.
We will never know how closely packed they are in private lodging...may be even worse coz it's kinda free for all in those old shophouses, or old private apt.lee_yl\" post_id=\"1990000\" time=\"1596851749\" user_id=\"17023:
I don’t have the figures but I think at least half the FWs in SG don’t stay inside dorms and are actually residing in outside premises, usually rental units sourced by their companies in HDBs/old private apartment).
As we can see from the daily MOH report, we have hundreds of FWs residing inside dorms being tested positive on a daily basis VS only a handful for those FWs residing outside of dorms are tested positive.
The govt has admitted that the FWs residing inside dorms are in an environment closely packed (no possibility of social distancing) which helps to spread infectious diseases fast. Covid-19 is not the first epidemic in the dorms, there was an earlier chickenpox epidemic, which is why there’s urgency to test and separate the infected FWs from the healthy ones in order to contain the spread of virus. Not to mention to confine the FWs to the dorms to quarantine them there.
Personally, the main diff is the cluster size....like 1000s for the dorms vs 10s outside. It only takes a couple of the workers to be infected to start a huge cluster in the dorm. Whereas for those living outside, had they stuck to their SHN, if there's no spark, there will be no fire. At that scale, it is more easy to contain.
As for the living condition of the dorms, I don't expect the operators to provide housekeeping svc. Their living quarter should be upkept by the workers....if our 18 yo ns boys can do it, then I believe they should be able to be at least half as good. But, unfortunately, I believe it is a cultural issue, ie, most of them probably came from a very different living condition as what we normally see in SG. Recently, I drove pass Chancery Courts....think it was converted the enbloc condo to house some of them. From the outside, I could see that it was turning into some squatter estate....laundry randomly hung all over the yard/turf area. It is like that one....just like some HDB dwellers think it is ok to hang their laundry at the playground
There was once a chicken pox epidemic and only those staying inside dorms were impacted.
I can agree the FWs should be responsible for own housekeeping since those who rent HDBs, housekeeping also not provided. Aiya, all the males staying together, what do you expect from them right? Even for NSFs, if not for the instructors’ hectoring, do you think the level of cleanliness will be any better?
If dormitories charge each pax $80 or $100 then of cos I will tell them, hello, so cheap already what else you expect? But given that 2pax sharing a HDB common room at $500 per room ($250 per pax), then FW paying $250-$300 for a bunk bed space, under relatively poor living conditions, then something somewhere is not right. -
可容纳2900病患 裕廊商场Big Box变身社区护理设施
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200817-1077410
DEAD MALL BIG BOX IN JURONG HAS TURNED INTO MEDICAL FACILITY TO HOUSE COVID-19 CASES
https://goodyfeed.com/big-box-community-facility/ -
RoastChickenDance\" post_id=\"1991329\" time=\"1597661041\" user_id=\"161727:
Thanks. I was curious how the premises was being used in this covid fight.
可容纳2900病患 裕廊商场Big Box变身社区护理设施
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200817-1077410
DEAD MALL BIG BOX IN JURONG HAS TURNED INTO MEDICAL FACILITY TO HOUSE COVID-19 CASES
https://goodyfeed.com/big-box-community-facility/
Good to know also that certain facilities such as NUS student hostels, Tg Pagar container port, a few army camps have either returned to their respective original managements/institutions or placed in 'reserve' and to be used as CCF again in short notice, should the situation warrants it. -
Another 8b will be used to help affected businesses and individuals to weather this storm. As announced by DPM Heng today, the measures will in place till March 2021. How on earth can we say the govt will take money only? I think it is more like give and give in current situation and rightly so, as we have been making hays while the sun was shining and now we can consume those hays. Hopefully, the sun will shine again soon and we can all go out to make hays again. While doing so, we must bear in mind of this pandemic and be prepared to start storing our hays again. Right now even with the decreasing cases daily, we must still be on our guard. Do use TT app, wear mask, register with SafeEntry when we are out and about.
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