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    Choosing and Evaluating Primary Schools

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    • DavischewD Offline
      Davischew
      last edited by

      Zenz79\" post_id=\"1995458\" time=\"1600395743\" user_id=\"178005:

      Thanks all!

      I am using onemap and Bendemeer Pri school is not within 2km. Since St Margaret has affiliation as well, can anyone help provide me with a comparison of Fairfield and St Margaret? I’ve looked at St Margaret website but it doesn’t seem to provide much info.
      If SMPS is within 2km, it's a sure in at 2C. If you are good with single gender, i think it's a good choice.

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
        zac's mum
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        Fairfield Pri, Fairfield Sec, ACJC: all located at Dover Road.


        SMPS located at Mt Sophia (Dhoby Ghaut MRT), SMSS located at Farrer Road MRT, SAJC located at Potong Pasir MRT.

        If you have all daughters and no intention of having sons, then SMPS is worth considering.

        Otherwise, stick to Fairfield.

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        • phtthpP Offline
          phtthp
          last edited by

          Zenz79\" post_id=\"1995458\" time=\"1600395743\" user_id=\"178005:

          Thanks all!

          I am using onemap and Bendemeer Pri school is not within 2km. Since St Margaret has affiliation as well, can anyone help provide me with a comparison of Fairfield and St Margaret? I’ve looked at St Margaret website but it doesn’t seem to provide much info.
          Answering your question on \"Comparison\" part -

          are you planning long term ahead, for the next 10 years ?



          Based on 2019 PSLE results,

          With Tscore 200,

          1)

          Fairfield Methodist primary school students are affliated to her Secondary (Express stream), whose Secondary school section in turn is affliated to Anglo-Chinese Junior College (ACJC) ?

          Refer

          https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7309


          2)
          St Margaret primary school students are affliated to her Secondary school (Express stream), who in turn is affliated to St Andrew Junior College (SAJC).

          Refer

          https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7021

          =====================

          Zenz79,

          the question you ought to ask yourself is,
          since you do have a choice,
          which JC do u want, ACJC or SAJC ? These two JC culture, are different.

          that should solve your dilemma, isn't it ?

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          • Z Offline
            Zenz79
            last edited by

            phtthp\" post_id=\"1995590\" time=\"1600452539\" user_id=\"35251:

            Zenz79\" post_id=\"1995458\" time=\"1600395743\" user_id=\"178005:

            Thanks all!

            I am using onemap and Bendemeer Pri school is not within 2km. Since St Margaret has affiliation as well, can anyone help provide me with a comparison of Fairfield and St Margaret? I’ve looked at St Margaret website but it doesn’t seem to provide much info.

            Answering your question on \"Comparison\" part -

            are you planning long term ahead, for the next 10 years ?



            Based on 2019 PSLE results,

            With Tscore 200,

            1)

            Fairfield Methodist primary school students are affliated to her Secondary (Express stream), whose Secondary school section in turn is affliated to Anglo-Chinese Junior College (ACJC) ?

            Refer

            https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7309


            2)
            St Margaret primary school students are affliated to her Secondary school (Express stream), who in turn is affliated to St Andrew Junior College (SAJC).

            Refer

            https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7021

            =====================

            Zenz79,

            the question you ought to ask yourself is,
            since you do have a choice,
            which JC do u want, ACJC or SAJC ? These two JC culture, are different.

            that should solve your dilemma, isn't it ?

            Thank you for the advise and info!
            I am not that concerned about her JC education should she choose to go that route. Whether she is able to is a matter in the future by which time, she should be able to take transport herself. 🙂

            I am wondering the difference in culture, performance and overall of between the 2 schools.
            Which would be better? Since I came from Fairfield, I know how it is over there. But I have not heard much about St Margaret.

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            • zac's mumZ Offline
              zac's mum
              last edited by

              I think Fairfield & St Margaret’s are around the same standard. Both are Christian, just different denominations.


              The benefit of an all-girls primary school is that they would have more CCAs and PAL lessons that are what girls would be interested in, generally more art, dance-related fun activities. Whereas a co-ed school would have more sports CCAs (likely Soccer), more PE periods per week, more rowdy inattentive boys acting up during lessons…

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              • J Offline
                Jackies2018
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                Zac mum /Davis,


                Can I apply for toa payoh primary schools if I’m moving there in 2023 end of year and my kid starts primary one in 2023?

                Thanks best regards

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                • DavischewD Offline
                  Davischew
                  last edited by

                  Jackies2018\" post_id=\"1995714\" time=\"1600576136\" user_id=\"188388:

                  Zac mum /Davis,

                  Can I apply for toa payoh primary schools if I'm moving there in 2023 end of year and my kid starts primary one in 2023?

                  Thanks best regards
                  Yes you can. From MOE website, documents required.

                  You will need to provide one of these documents to the school via email:

                  A copy of the original Sales and Purchase agreement for the private property.
                  A print out of the ‘New Flat’ page from My HDBPage, if applicable.
                  Note: The vacant or delivery possession date of the property must be within 2 years of your child’s entry into P1. You must also move into the new property within the same time.

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                  • Z Offline
                    Zenz79
                    last edited by

                    zac's mum\" post_id=\"1995647\" time=\"1600510453\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1995647 time=1600510453 user_id=53606]
                    I think Fairfield & St Margaret’s are around the same standard. Both are Christian, just different denominations.

                    The benefit of an all-girls primary school is that they would have more CCAs and PAL lessons that are what girls would be interested in, generally more art, dance-related fun activities. Whereas a co-ed school would have more sports CCAs (likely Soccer), more PE periods per week, more rowdy inattentive boys acting up during lessons...[/quote]
                    Thanks all for your insightful advices!

                    Does anyone have the link to find the primary school rankings for 2019?

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                    • phtthpP Offline
                      phtthp
                      last edited by

                      Zenz79\" post_id=\"1996518\" time=\"1601213887\" user_id=\"178005:



                      Does anyone have the link to find the primary school rankings for 2019?
                      There is NO ranking whatsoever, for

                      - primary schools,

                      - nor for Secondary schools,

                      - nor for Junior Colleges,

                      because

                      the very first, basic fundamental question to ask you, is -

                      on what COMMON standardized qualifying criteria or common ground or measuring yardstick or
                      on what basis,
                      are you going to rank all these schools and

                      be able to come to a definite drawn conclusion

                      that this school is far better or much lousier, than another primary school ? Better or lousier, in terms of what ?

                      And

                      What is the objective and purpose behind, ranking these schools ?

                      For primary schools, Total, there are more than 100+ primary schools in Singapore.

                      So,
                      does it mean that if say, a school X is being ranked the very last school, out of entire Singapore, out of more than 100+ schools, does it imply or mean that -
                      All students studying inside this last school X, are bound to graduate out of Primary 6, as losers in society, to be scorned by or looked down upon by society, such that once you tell people that you are from this primary school, your friends or neighbours or colleagues will comment like \"Aiyoh, you come from school X .... if is me, i will siam this school, wont let my kid study school X .... \"

                      Imagine, if a child is studying in this last school X, How would the parents and their children feel, everyday going to school X ? Won't they feel lousy ?
                      Would you want to put your child into such a school, if let's say during balloting child gets balloted out of the better school and MOE post the child to this very last ranked school X ?

                      In conclusion,
                      All this ranking is going to demoralize and have psychological effect on pupils who got posted to the lousy ranked school X. This is going to have a damaging effect to them, in the long run.

                      In sharp contrast,
                      If say, students studying inside another primary school Y, ranked #1 Top school in entire Singapore,
                      does it mean that
                      you want them to grow up arrogantly, proud like a peacock, high and mighty,
                      just because they are studying inside a #1 ranked primary school, top of the list?

                      You want to send your child to such school, growing up like that, high and mighty, breeding arrogance and contempt, looking down on other children who are slow learners, never know or understood what is the meaning of humility ?

                      So, you still want to rank the schools ?



                      =========================

                      Actually, what is your problem?
                      Cannot decide between Fairfield Methodist primary or St Margaret primary ?

                      Because you have been asking the same old question, in a few different thread already. Yes, in different thread, you may have phrased your question differently. But, one read by many of us here, would sense right away that essentially, you are asking the same old basic question.

                      Solution is there.
                      Just give a call to St Margaret primary school's Vice Principal, ask her all your burning questions or any concern that you have. Prepare a long list of questions first, before start calling her, because we assume that you are well versed with Fairfield, already. What you need is a \"compare and contrast\" situation, meaning that

                      suppose Fairfield have this, this, this, that, that, that. (apart from the presence of boys)
                      How about St Margaret ?
                      Does St Margaret also have, what Fairfield already have

                      Or

                      St Margaret don't have, but Fairfield have ?

                      Or

                      St Margaret have, but Fairfield don't have ?

                      And on a piece of paper in front of you, draw two vertical column, whenever you are in a dilemma choosing schools

                      Left hand side :
                      a list of what Fairfield have, or can offer

                      Right hand side :
                      write down a list of what St Margaret have, or can offer

                      Then,
                      on a scale of (1 to 10),
                      For each of the \" have\" in St Margaret,

                      And

                      For each of the \"have\" in Fairfield, rank them yourself,
                      evaluate,
                      how important is it to you and your child ?

                      Ranking : 1,
                      means critical, very important, must have

                      Ranking : 10,
                      means the least important to you. Don't have, also never mind


                      VP (St Margaret) should be able to address all your questions and from there, can make your own decision.

                      As for own alma mater Fairfield, can also visit back your own school, touch base and update yourself with the latest, most recent happening and events what's going on lately. Since Fairfield is your own former school or may be your spouse ex school, should be easier to find out info internally, from within.

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                      • Z Offline
                        Zenz79
                        last edited by

                        phtthp\" post_id=\"1996520\" time=\"1601214493\" user_id=\"35251:

                        Zenz79\" post_id=\"1996518\" time=\"1601213887\" user_id=\"178005:



                        Does anyone have the link to find the primary school rankings for 2019?

                        There is NO ranking whatsoever, for

                        - primary schools,

                        - nor for Secondary schools,

                        - nor for Junior Colleges,

                        because

                        the very first, basic fundamental question to ask you, is -

                        on what COMMON standardized qualifying criteria or common ground or measuring yardstick or
                        on what basis,
                        are you going to rank all these schools and

                        be able to come to a definite drawn conclusion

                        that this school is far better or much lousier, than another primary school ? Better or lousier, in terms of what ?

                        And

                        What is the objective and purpose behind, ranking these schools ?

                        For primary schools, Total, there are more than 100+ primary schools in Singapore.

                        So,
                        does it mean that if say, a school X is being ranked the very last school, out of entire Singapore, out of more than 100+ schools, does it imply or mean that -
                        All students studying inside this last school X, are bound to graduate out of Primary 6, as losers in society, to be scorned by or looked down upon by society, such that once you tell people that you are from this primary school, your friends or neighbours or colleagues will comment like \"Aiyoh, you come from school X .... if is me, i will siam this school, wont let my kid study school X .... \"

                        Imagine, if a child is studying in this last school X, How would the parents and their children feel, everyday going to school X ? Won't they feel lousy ?
                        Would you want to put your child into such a school, if let's say during balloting child gets balloted out of the better school and MOE post the child to this very last ranked school X ?

                        In conclusion,
                        All this ranking is going to demoralize and have psychological effect on pupils who got posted to the lousy ranked school X. This is going to have a damaging effect to them, in the long run.

                        In sharp contrast,
                        If say, students studying inside another primary school Y, ranked #1 Top school in entire Singapore,
                        does it mean that
                        you want them to grow up arrogantly, proud like a peacock, high and mighty,
                        just because they are studying inside a #1 ranked primary school, top of the list?

                        You want to send your child to such school, growing up like that, high and mighty, breeding arrogance and contempt, looking down on other children who are slow learners, never know or understood what is the meaning of humility ?

                        So, you still want to rank the schools ?



                        =========================

                        Actually, what is your problem?
                        Cannot decide between Fairfield Methodist primary or St Margaret primary ?

                        Because you have been asking the same old question, in a few different thread already. Yes, in different thread, you may have phrased your question differently. But, one read by many of us here, would sense right away that essentially, you are asking the same old basic question.

                        Solution is there.
                        Just give a call to St Margaret primary school's Vice Principal, ask her all your burning questions or any concern that you have. Prepare a long list of questions first, before start calling her, because we assume that you are well versed with Fairfield, already. What you need is a \"compare and contrast\" situation, meaning that

                        suppose Fairfield have this, this, this, that, that, that. (apart from the presence of boys)
                        How about St Margaret ?
                        Does St Margaret also have, what Fairfield already have

                        Or

                        St Margaret don't have, but Fairfield have ?

                        Or

                        St Margaret have, but Fairfield don't have ?

                        And on a piece of paper in front of you, draw two vertical column, whenever you are in a dilemma choosing schools

                        Left hand side :
                        a list of what Fairfield have, or can offer

                        Right hand side :
                        write down a list of what St Margaret have, or can offer

                        Then,
                        on a scale of (1 to 10),
                        For each of the \" have\" in St Margaret,

                        And

                        For each of the \"have\" in Fairfield, rank them yourself,
                        evaluate,
                        how important is it to you and your child ?

                        Ranking : 1,
                        means critical, very important, must have

                        Ranking : 10,
                        means the least important to you. Don't have, also never mind


                        VP (St Margaret) should be able to address all your questions and from there, can make your own decision.

                        As for own alma mater Fairfield, can also visit back your own school, touch base and update yourself with the latest, most recent happening and events what's going on lately. Since Fairfield is your own former school or may be your spouse ex school, should be easier to find out info internally, from within.

                        Appreciate your lengthy reply.
                        I was reading thru the forum and found rankings in the form of T-scores contributed by kind parents here. But some schools were not up to date. Hence my question if there are any updated rankings info since it is already present within the forum.

                        I do not feel one school is superior to the other. But the fact of the matter is that there are schools which are more, I’d put it as sought after, than the rest. Which is why this forum or thread comes about, to enable parents to compare and discuss. I have looked thru quite alot of information between the 2 schools and have been stuck at the cross road for some time. I’ve been posting on this topic mainly and checking with parents at the st margaret topic as parents there have children inside the school.

                        The main difference between the school, apart from one being co-ed and the other being a girls school, is the subjects taught and the CCA. I guess the main thing for me boils down to how children in St Margaret Pri are doing and what the teaching environment is like. These are some things I cannot ask the VP (and since they do not have open house), hence I can only check with parents here for a more realistic point of view. The reason I am asking for the ranking or scoring is because I want to compare the difference in subject and studying environment and gauge which is better for my child. It also tells me about the quality of the teaching staff.

                        For me, there aren’t too many things that I have to consider that I have to write on a piece of paper but thanks for the suggestion 🙂

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