2020 PSLE Discussions and Strategies(for those born in 2008)
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tutormum\" post_id=\"1997462\" time=\"1601815965\" user_id=\"12573:
Yes, agree with Fastblade and tutormom.
I agree cos it's not fair for the students as the question is rather ambiguous to begin with. There is no mentioning that the tape can be cut from different points and it would be assumed that the starting point of the tape is what is shown in the diagram i.e. from S S H...... Answer would be 89 and 90, setting those students who were able to deduce 89 as another possible answer apart. That's how they differentiate the A and A* students.Fastblade\" post_id=\"1997301\" time=\"1601691783\" user_id=\"188704:
It is definitely not 91, cos they started with Star so the pattern must follow accordingly, and not like the tuition. So it is not 91
In fact, during PSLE Maths tense exam atmosphere, if student can think of 89, apart from 90, is very, very good already.
However, this being a 2 mark question, may not separate A from an A * student,
unless it is a heavy weighted 5 marks question,
because
2 marks difference, is too small, in that
If you write down 90 one answer, get 1 mark.
If write down 89 and 90, get 2 marks (full marks) -
Imami\" post_id=\"1997314\" time=\"1601699490\" user_id=\"56961:
It's true that tolerance towards carelessness will be lesser than a difficult paper but there is the bell curve. Most students are careless especially during a stressful situation like an exam. Even if the raw score may be low due to marks being deducted, but if most students did the same thing like not putting a comma where one is needed, there isn't much difference actually in terms of overall performance. If it is a difficult question, that comma will be overlooked. Those who are good in the subject will be able to complete the easy papers without much difficulty and have lots of time to check. That's why I always emphasize that students always check and double check their papers before handing in.
I know right... The parents around me are mostly happy with the easier papers but I am worried (even though we should not be worried). The part in bold was what an experienced tutor told me earlier this year, after MOE announced the reduced syllabus.678Yess\" post_id=\"1997280\" time=\"1601678787\" user_id=\"7364:
When so many people said that maths paper is easy... it worried me. As tolerance towards carelessness will be zero... which is not good for those that were strong in the subject but, not careful. I wondered, which subject is the will be the intentional differentiation subject ... I hope it will not an disadvantage to my ds.
Our kids just have to brave on, come what may. -
P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1997463\" time=\"1601816058\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1997463 time=1601816058 user_id=68074]
Astudentwhoanswersquestions\" post_id=\"1997287\" time=\"1601686725\" user_id=\"188683:
Sounds like you lost that A* already. Easy paper could be as high as 99 or full marks for A*. As they need to limit the A* awarded. No room for carelessness.This year (2020),
if the Maths paper is easy
- won't be 91, can get A*
- but also won't be 99 so high, then can get A*
Total, how many marks did student \"astudentwhoanswersqn\" lose ?
He lost 4+2, equal 6 marks.
Means his Raw score is 94, upon 100
After adjustment with rest of the cohort (several thousands of Psle students), is possible that he can still get an A* for Maths -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1997464\" time=\"1601816377\" user_id=\"35251:
Yes, agree with Fastblade and tutormom.
I agree cos it's not fair for the students as the question is rather ambiguous to begin with. There is no mentioning that the tape can be cut from different points and it would be assumed that the starting point of the tape is what is shown in the diagram i.e. from S S H...... Answer would be 89 and 90, setting those students who were able to deduce 89 as another possible answer apart. That's how they differentiate the A and A* students.tutormum\" post_id=\"1997462\" time=\"1601815965\" user_id=\"12573:
[quote=Fastblade post_id=1997301 time=1601691783 user_id=188704]It is definitely not 91, cos they started with Star so the pattern must follow accordingly, and not like the tuition. So it is not 91
In fact, during PSLE Maths tense exam atmosphere, if student can think of 89, apart from 90, is very, very good already.
However, this being a 2 mark question, may not separate A from an A * student,
unless it is a heavy weighted 5 marks question,
because
2 marks difference, is too small, in that
If you write down 90 one answer, get 1 mark.
If write down 89 and 90, get 2 marks (full marks)[/quote]No lah, I was just using this question as an example on how questions are set to differentiate the students. During DS3's time, I was told that at least there were a few students in his school who managed to get the correct answer to a very difficult question while in some schools, none of the students got it correct. DS3 was very sure that he had lost at least 8 marks for his Maths papers but in the end still got that A*. There is a bell curve and it depends on the overall performance of other students besides your own. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1997468\" time=\"1601817729\" user_id=\"35251:
P1 mummy\" post_id=\"1997463\" time=\"1601816058\" user_id=\"68074:[quote=\"P1 mummy\" post_id=1997463 time=1601816058 user_id=68074]
This year (2020),
if the Maths paper is easy
- won't be 91, can get A*
- but also won't be 99 so high, then can get A*
Total, how many marks did student \"astudentwhoanswersqn\" lose ?
He lost 4+2, equal 6 marks.
Means his Raw score is 94, upon 100
After adjustment with rest of the cohort (several thousands of Psle students), is possible that he can still get an A* for Maths
So do you mean the grade for each subject is already banded based on T score calculated for that subject? I had the impression that it was based on raw score. -
Assuming that "asastudentwhoanswersqn" original Psle Maths Raw score is indeed 94 marks (upon 100), since he claimed that he lost Total (4 +2), lost 6 marks
94 marks is his Raw score.
1) under new AL Psle system, he will get AL 1 banding for Maths,
since his original Raw score at 94 marks already exceeded 90.
AL system function, based on Raw score.
2) But under Tscore,
after adjustment,
taking into account several thousands of PSLE students’ Maths scores,
his new final adjusted score could end up lower than 94, after being adjusted downwards, assuming a lot of P6 students also did very well for Mathematics, this year.
Hence, he may or may not score an A* for Maths afterall, After adjustment.
How to set apart, differentiate Maths A * students from normal A students ?
- carelessness vs. students who are cautious, checked thoroughly before submit papers to invigilators
- inside Paper 2,
those "heavy weighted " questions that carried 5 marks each.
- inside Paper 1,
accumulation of a few tricky questions set here and there.
E.g.
This 90 vs. (89 and 90) answers -
Just curious as I will also have kids under the AL system.
For “asastudentwhoanswerqn”, even if he doesn’t get an A*, he’ll still have a very decent T score for Math. For those under the AL sys, in an easy paper, won’t we end up with a lot of kids getting AL1? That’s not a bad thing at all, but how will they be admitted to Sec school (with no DSA). By balloting?
Let’s see for MT and Sci, don’t think it’s practical to have easy papers for all subjects even though I wish so. Any idea which papers were relatively tougher and easier last year?
Btw in DS school, not everyone thought that Math was easy. There were quite a number who couldn’t finish the paper. -
Not every year, set a relatively easier paper, comparatively.
This year, because of covid that created lots of uncertainty, disruption along the way since March and stress, so they removed some heavy topics out of Maths Psle Test scope, hence become relatively lighter.
For AL system, if there are a lot of students thrown into common pool eg. AL 7 or AL 8 banding, then computer balloting arise, and based on their luck, to spread them all out into various good "diversified" Secondary schools, prevent students from conglomerate, end up always in that one or two good highly popular schools category -
Tomorrow Science paper…last paper for those not taking Higher Mother Tongue.
Hopefully Science paper won’t be so tough. -
My gal called from school public phone, said the compo topic was something about 2 gals helping a woman who dropped her monies (not sure if I heard correctly as she was in a rush) … & she said most of her classmates had no time to complete or check the compo. They just managed to finished on the dot.
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