2021 P1 Registration Exercise for 2022 In-take
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floppy\" post_id=\"2011281\" time=\"1610072803\" user_id=\"97579:
MTS is not a SAP school; it's just one of the schools that have opted to offer HCL in P1. For schools that offer HCL in P1, you can't opt for normal CL until P5. A quick way of telling SAP / non-SAP schools apart: SAP schools don't offer any other MTL except HCL / CL, whereas non-SAP schools offer other MTL (in MTS case, Malay).
It’s located in Punggol and it’s one of the popular school in that area.stephie-\" post_id=\"2011277\" time=\"1610071033\" user_id=\"190640:
[quote=floppy post_id=2011274 time=1610070294 user_id=97579]
Never heard of this school before. Where is it located? :scratchhead:
Every student in Singapore needs to study a Mother Tongue language. Higher Chinese is offered in all schools to students with a strong proficiency in Chinese. For most schools, HCL will be offered to such students from P5 onwards but there are a number of schools (such as MTS) that had chosen to offer HCL from P1. For SAP schools, HCL is compulsory from P1.
It is not known to me that Mee Toh is a SAP school so I’m curious to know if HCL is compulsory.
That school is in my consideration since it’s beside my block but I’m not keen to let my child take HCL because she’s quite weak in that language.
MTS is popular because it's the oldest school in Punggol (founded in 1954, shifted from Kallang to Punggol in 2005). Therefore, it's also the only school in Punggol with a consistent \"track record\" for PSLE. Unfortunately, MTS made the headlines last year for a high profile bullying case, in which the Min of Education had to step in and comment about it.[/quote]Wow thanks for the details! I never knew.
But yes I saw the news on the bullying case and I had my reservations after that, to be honest.
Some told me to just put my child in my old school - used to be Canossa convent but is now called Canossa Catholic Pri (turned co-ed in 2020). -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2011284\" time=\"1610073208\" user_id=\"188234:
Thanks for your insights. What you said made sense.
IMO, there is no better time to start than P1. In fact, if HCL is the only version of CL the school offers, I would think students will feel less out of place and the teachers will figure out how to accommodate everyone (there will always be top, average, and below average students in every class whether it is CL or HCL). At the end of the day, if the whole herd is running fast then you will also run fast. Not saying it will be easy out of the gates, but 6 years later I think there's a good chance you will be happy with the decision.stephie-\" post_id=\"2011277\" time=\"1610071033\" user_id=\"190640:
That school is in my consideration since it’s beside my block but I’m not keen to let my child take HCL because she’s quite weak in that language.
If this is also the most convenient school, I would not hesitate...
My only gripe is not securing a slot in phase 2C, that would mean I’ve to reconsider all options -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2011286\" time=\"1610074805\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2011286 time=1610074805 user_id=53606]
So would you recommend that I try MTS or go elsewhere?
Just throwing in my opinion here. In those schools where majority are taking HCL, those kids who “drop” to CL in P5 may suffer from low self esteem, as the teachers and other kids could sometimes cruelly write them off as lower ability. In my SAP school days, there was peer pressure to keep on taking HCL as the 1 or 2 CL classes were usually for those weak in all subjects.
But given that MTS is conveniently next door, most people in your situation would just join the phase 2C balloting. If lucky, get a place. If fail the ballot, just treat it as the heavens think it’s better your child go elsewhere, then u just find a next nearest school to register in phase 2CSupp.[/quote]
Usually the schools that are left with 2CS vacancies, I would wonder why no one wants them -
Hmm I’m slightly confused… coz I thought there’s no “SAP” system anymore. Coz it used to be that being in a SAP primary school equals the chance to take Higher Chinese, which then gives you an advantage should you want to enter a SAP secondary school. Hence with majority of primary schools offering Higher Chinese, thought “SAP“ thus doesn’t apply anymore… confused
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watercolourbunny\" post_id=\"2011302\" time=\"1610085284\" user_id=\"184688:
I think there are still SAP schools if I’m not wrong. And I thought only the SAP schools will offer Higher Chinese, so I’m also quite confused by this system. 😖
Hmm I’m slightly confused.. coz I thought there’s no “SAP” system anymore. Coz it used to be that being in a SAP primary school equals the chance to take Higher Chinese, which then gives you an advantage should you want to enter a SAP secondary school. Hence with majority of primary schools offering Higher Chinese, thought “SAP“ thus doesn’t apply anymore... *confused* -
stephie-\" post_id=\"2011307\" time=\"1610085672\" user_id=\"190640:
All SAP primary schools in Singapore start Higher Chinese, from Primary 1. You can Google for the list of SAP primary schools.
I think there are still SAP schools if I’m not wrong. And I thought only the SAP schools will offer Higher Chinese, so I’m also quite confused by this system. 😖watercolourbunny\" post_id=\"2011302\" time=\"1610085284\" user_id=\"184688:
Hmm I’m slightly confused.. coz I thought there’s no “SAP” system anymore. Coz it used to be that being in a SAP primary school equals the chance to take Higher Chinese, which then gives you an advantage should you want to enter a SAP secondary school. Hence with majority of primary schools offering Higher Chinese, thought “SAP“ thus doesn’t apply anymore... *confused*
Which SAP primary school in Singapore doesn't start HCL, from Primary 1 ? None, zero !
All SAP primary schools start HCL, from P1.
In stark contrast,
majority of \"Non-SAP\" primary schools start HCL in P5, after your P4 streaming, although there are a few, rare Non-SAP schools that do start HCL, from P1, instead of having to wait until P5 so long .
Example
Raffles Girls' primary
Not say totally don't have, but rare (seldom) !
In Year (2014 P1),
did all RGPS Primary 1 students start Higher Chinese, right from day 1, Term 1 ?
Yes, of course !
By the way, there are also some \"Non-SAP\" primary schools that start HCL from P2 onwards, after their P1 have ended.
If you want your child to be strong in Chinese, knowing fully aware that Chinese is often a stumbling block to most students who are weak in Chinese, tend to risk scoring a low or poor AL Psle score, which situation do u think is better?
Start having your child to be exposed to learning HCL from P1, or only from P5 later , after P4 streaming ? You decide.
If your child start exposure to HCL only from P5, means
student have already lost 4 precious, valuable golden years of HCL learning, from (P1 to P4). Not just lost merely one year, but 4 years ! If lost merely one year, still can catch up. But 4 years, so long ?
Last time, up to Y2020,
if a student is weak in Chinese but strong in your other 3 subjects, never mind, because Tscore can still help to \"pull up\" the student's weakened Chinese. But now under AL system, no more.
If weak student score (AL5 or AL6) for Chinese, how to \"pull up\" ? No way.
Under AL,
just one single weakened subject by itself, can pull the overall \"Totalled up\" AL points down.
Under AL, every of your 4 subjects, must do well.
AL Psle syatem works in the similar manner, as the O level L1R5, where every single subject counts ! No more relying or depending on your \"3 other subjects\" to \"pull you up\".
As such, under AL system,
SAP primary schools are in popular, hot demand -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2011309\" time=\"1610087929\" user_id=\"35251:
All SAP primary schools in Singapore start Higher Chinese, from Primary 1. You can Google for the list of SAP primary schools.
I think there are still SAP schools if I’m not wrong. And I thought only the SAP schools will offer Higher Chinese, so I’m also quite confused by this system. 😖stephie-\" post_id=\"2011307\" time=\"1610085672\" user_id=\"190640:
[quote=watercolourbunny post_id=2011302 time=1610085284 user_id=184688]Hmm I’m slightly confused.. coz I thought there’s no “SAP” system anymore. Coz it used to be that being in a SAP primary school equals the chance to take Higher Chinese, which then gives you an advantage should you want to enter a SAP secondary school. Hence with majority of primary schools offering Higher Chinese, thought “SAP“ thus doesn’t apply anymore... *confused*
Which SAP primary school in Singapore doesn't start HCL, from Primary 1 ? None, zero !
All SAP primary schools start HCL, from P1.
In stark contrast,
majority of \"Non-SAP\" primary schools start HCL in P5, after your P4 streaming, although there are a few, rare Non-SAP schools that do start HCL, from P1, instead of having to wait until P5 so long .
Example
Raffles Girls' primary
Not say totally don't have, but rare (seldom) !
In Year (2014 P1),
did all RGPS Primary 1 students start Higher Chinese, right from day 1, Term 1 ?
Yes, of course !
By the way, there are also some \"Non-SAP\" primary schools that start HCL from P2 onwards, after their P1 have ended.
If you want your child to be strong in Chinese, knowing fully aware that Chinese is often a stumbling block to most students who are weak in Chinese, tend to risk scoring a low or poor AL Psle score, which situation do u think is better?
Start having your child to be exposed to learning HCL from P1, or only from P5 later , after P4 streaming ? You decide.
If your child start exposure to HCL only from P5, means
student have already lost 4 precious, valuable golden years of HCL learning, from (P1 to P4). Not just lost merely one year, but 4 years ! If lost merely one year, still can catch up. But 4 years ?
Last time, up to Y2020,
if a student is weak in Chinese but strong in your other 3 subjects, never mind, because Tscore can still help to \"pull up\" the student's weakened Chinese. But now under AL system, no more.
If weak student score (AL5 or AL6) for Chinese, how to \"pull up\" ? No way.
Under AL, every of your 4 subjects, must do well.
AL Psle syatem works in the similar manner, as the O level L1R5, where every single subject counts ! No more relying or depending on your \"3 other subjects\" to \"pull you up\".
As such, under AL system,
SAP primary schools are in popular, hot demand[/quote]Wow thanks for the enlightenment! Truly appreciate it. -
Re HCL for P1-P4, there isn’t too big a difference in content actually.
There are also some non SAP primary schools that use HCL textbook starting from P1. After P4 SA2, they will only offer P5/P6 HCL to max 2 classes of kids based on their results.
P5/P6 HCL content and exam format is significantly more difficult as compared to CL at the same level, thus only pupils who meet a certain cut off point will be offered the subject. -
Whether or not to register your child in a school that makes HCL compulsory from P1, that’s up to your own assessment of your child. Only you know whether your child will be able to do it.
Parental support is important. To do well in CL (and HCL), a Mandarin speaking environment at home helps A LOT. If neither of the parents can speak Mandarin with the child on a regular basis (nor help the child with reading books & newspapers in upper primary), then it will be an uphill struggle for the child. While there are tuition centres & native speaking private tutors to fill this gap, do u want to be at their mercy? School teachers can only teach to a limited extent. They won’t guarantee an AL1 for every single child under their care as that’s not reasonable. -
And the subtle difference between SAP schools vs non-SAP schools which have HCL from P1: the racial homogeneity (mostly C) vs a mix of IMO (I’m referring to Nric CIMO grouping). Some people care about that.
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