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    Networking Group - JCs General

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • sharonkhooS Offline
      sharonkhoo
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      I have moved some of yesterday's posts to https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=95240. Please continue your exchanges there.
      THANK YOU! I am so tired of reading these recurrent \"discussions\" which often descend to name-calling to make points. Please continue to move the posts there.

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      • John LimJ Offline
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        No offense but I wonder at the value of JC comparison. I have a child who went VJC and graduated with perfect As. Another child who just graduated from ASRJC and did 82.5.

        I also had friends whose dc went to jurong pioneer and Yishun innova JC and did 88.75 so my conclusion is, it is about the Individual drive to do well. All JCs will enable our child to do well for A levels if they are driven. Just my personal opinion and hope it gives hope to others whose kids are not in “top tier” JC. It doesn’t matter...
        Every school, a good school 😄

        My daughter, NYJC - 2019 A level Science 4 H2 6A Rank Point : 90/90. - 0 Tuition
        :thankyou: MOE & NYJC
        Hope it gives hope to others whose kids are not in “top tier” Tuition Centre (💰不够用) :rotflmao:

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          John Lim
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          MMM\" post_id=\"2015326\" time=\"1613790650\" user_id=\"1366:
          Every school, a good school 😄

          My daughter, NYJC - 2019 A level Science 4 H2 6A Rank Point : 90/90. - 0 Tuition
          :thankyou: MOE & NYJC
          Hope it gives hope to others whose kids are not in “top tier” Tuition Centre (💰不够用) :rotflmao:
          Every school, a good school 2 😄

          My Son,
          Joint Admissions Exercise (JAE)
          1st choice Nanyang JC, -2 affiliation
          2nd choice Pioneer JC
          3rd choice Yishun JC

          Posted to Yishun JC. Only good in Maths & Physics, like father like son - same DNA :rotflmao:
          Selected for A*STAR(Agency for Science, Technology and Research) MOE Local Student (Junior College) Attachment Programme 2015 :boogie:

          Now,
          NTU A Engineering 2017 IGP AAA/A (Uni result All As, A+ > A & A-), Dean’s list (Top 5%) 😂 💪

          Also 0 Tuition :thankyou: MOE & Yishun JC

          Hope it gives hope to others whose kids are not in “top tier” JC & Tuition Centre (💰不够用) :rotflmao:

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          • doodbugD Offline
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            yes, it’s heartening to see that kids can do well regardless which JC they are from.

            don’t be discouraged, or hold back one’s efforts, even if one is not in a top JC.

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            • K Offline
              Kimm
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              It's callous to label JAE students (w/o offering any concrete proof but pure conjecture I must add) as 2nd class citizens in our IP JC.

              Even in the top classes in RJC (e.g. those offering double RA), there were JAE students who qualified and IP students who didn't.

              The school management of the JCs all know the results profile of their students - but this is not disclosed, even to the wider teacher group. I would say, unless you have heard from a JC principal/ VP/ school leader, none of us actually authoritatively know the difference in level of performance between JAEs and IP students within each school.

              What is a fact is that there is a very large degree of overlap and there will be many JAE students who outperform IP students, and vice versa. If the distinction was so clear cut and PSLE is such a definitive indicator of subsequent performance, then what is the point of JAE. I totally agree that in RI, HCI and all other IP JCs, the top classes will have a mix of JAE and IP students.

              Perhaps moe should place IP students into mid tier JCs, monitor their performance.
              Im sure these JCs stds sure shoot up.

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              • lee_ylL Offline
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                doodbug\" post_id=\"2018081\" time=\"1616297283\" user_id=\"13281:

                [quote=iRabbit post_id=2018011 time=1616200250 user_id=51587]It's callous to label JAE students (w/o offering any concrete proof but pure conjecture I must add) as 2nd class citizens in our IP JC.

                Even in the top classes in RJC (e.g. those offering double RA), there were JAE students who qualified and IP students who didn't.

                The school management of the JCs all know the results profile of their students - but this is not disclosed, even to the wider teacher group. I would say, unless you have heard from a JC principal/ VP/ school leader, none of us actually authoritatively know the difference in level of performance between JAEs and IP students within each school.

                What is a fact is that there is a very large degree of overlap and there will be many JAE students who outperform IP students, and vice versa. If the distinction was so clear cut and PSLE is such a definitive indicator of subsequent performance, then what is the point of JAE. I totally agree that in RI, HCI and all other IP JCs, the top classes will have a mix of JAE and IP students.

                Perhaps moe should place IP students into mid tier JCs, monitor their performance.
                Im sure these JCs stds sure shoot up.[/quote]Do you know what you are talking about? And you are also underestimating JAE students due to your own obsessive bias.

                Maybe should inject IP students into NYJC. Else forever NYJC dares not disclose NYJC’s 4H2 performance. Or can help NYJC clinch a couple of PSC Scholarships?

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                  Kimm
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                  [quote=doodbug post_id=2018081 time=1616297283 user_id=13281]

                  The school management of the JCs all know the results profile of their students - but this is not disclosed, even to the wider teacher group. I would say, unless you have heard from a JC principal/ VP/ school leader, none of us actually authoritatively know the difference in level of performance between JAEs and IP students within each school.

                  What is a fact is that there is a very large degree of overlap and there will be many JAE students who outperform IP students, and vice versa. If the distinction was so clear cut and PSLE is such a definitive indicator of subsequent performance, then what is the point of JAE. I totally agree that in RI, HCI and all other IP JCs, the top classes will have a mix of JAE and IP students.

                  Perhaps moe should place IP students into mid tier JCs, monitor their performance.
                  Im sure these JCs stds sure shoot up.

                  Do you know what you are talking about? And you are also underestimating JAE students due to your own obsessive bias.

                  Maybe should inject IP students into NYJC. Else forever NYJC dares not disclose NYJC’s 4H2 performance. Or can help NYJC clinch a couple of PSC Scholarships?[/quote]Yes, should inject IP into NYJC mainly so can improve its std even more n to mid tier JCs. Gd idea.

                  Also, inject instead 80% IP students into EJC, you hoping?
                  So EJC can clinch PSC Scholarships to satisfy ur own obsessive bias.

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                  • lee_ylL Offline
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                    [quote=Kimm post_id=2018085 time=1616301575 user_id=191983]

                    Perhaps moe should place IP students into mid tier JCs, monitor their performance.
                    Im sure these JCs stds sure shoot up.

                    Do you know what you are talking about? And you are also underestimating JAE students due to your own obsessive bias.

                    Maybe should inject IP students into NYJC. Else forever NYJC dares not disclose NYJC’s 4H2 performance. Or can help NYJC clinch a couple of PSC Scholarships?

                    Yes, should inject IP into NYJC mainly so can improve its std even more n to mid tier JCs. Gd idea.

                    Also, inject instead 80% IP students into EJC, you hoping?
                    So EJC can clinch PSC Scholarships to satisfy ur own obsessive bias.[/quote]Only you capable of imagining lah.
                    Inject 60% or 80% not up to you or me to say, it is decided by MOE.

                    I am not worried for EJC, it’s growing from strength to strength. And in its short span of existence, its students have already clinched a number of PSC Scholarships.

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                    • doodbugD Offline
                      doodbug
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                      If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.


                      I’m not overly concerned about EJC’s academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

                      That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She’s so happy in her Sec Sch and isn’t looking forward to JC so we’ll see.

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                      • DinoD Offline
                        Dino
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                        If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.

                        I'm not overly concerned about EJC's academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking,, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

                        That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She's so happy in her Sec Sch and isn't looking forward to JC so we'll see.
                        nyjc can go find nygh team up.... nanyang find nanyang lah...... :imcool:

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