Homosexuality
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Applaud to you biolab00 for your discernment and your ability to keep matters separate even though you belong to the homosexual group. respect and kudos. I really like people who can separate emotions with facts.
You echo exactly what I have been saying without discrimination and I am glad that you can feel no discrimination in this discussion except COMMON SENSE. Just to summarise 3 key points.
1. Homosexualism is unnatural, we just cannot override that fact by our own whims and fancies. This definition is based on COMMON SENSE, nothing religious, only Mother Nature. And there is nothing biased about that.
2. It cannot propagate legally as a lifestyle, it will brew disaster as children will retort parents who try to discourage and use law against their parents. It will break up and destroy families who need to talk on legal terms. Family ties become badly strained. And with it coming under legal terms, it will propagate as a lifestyle, like it or not, it WILL happen, it’s human nature and biolab00 with first hand experience agreed too. He understands the aggression of the oppressed.
3. If a child is truly homosexual, parent can do exception handling and manage it from there with compassion and understanding of a child’s needs, afterall they love their child, even adopted like biolab00 mentioned. Not using law I purport, because no parents like to feel that they are pressured to accept their children’s condition based on law. It is truly not. They will support based on love.
Why are we so doubtful that human compassion exists and can manage the problems other than using the legal system that they are pushing for? -
cluelessmom:
sori....must be the effects of my insomnia suffered in the past few days. In my mind, the main contentious issue was not about \"discrimination\" and so i typed away....Dear westmom,
If u read carefully, I am replying to ks2me statement tat she don't know anyone who discriminates them other than people who keeps insisting that there is discrimination. I wld take it tat she meant in general and not wif reference to this forum. I am merely stating tat I have known of gays, on the contrary, who were discriminated and verbally abused by others and I must now hasten to add and correct, I am not refering to people in this forum . In no way I am insinuating tat the people here discriminates against gays despite not agreeing to their lifestyle, pls do not get the wrong impression. :shock: -
biolab00:
Thank you for sharing, Biolab00. I admire your courage and honesty in posting your very insightful thoughts and views.
.....Yes, homosexual is a sexual orientation and many people claim that it is something that you are born with. It is true. But that doesn't deny the fact that trauma and influence may also swing a person to lead to Homosexuality. Another human common sense, how can a person who is good-natured turned bad? Ans : Peer Pressure
......Your next question may be, if a guy or girl is not born homosexual or is not homosexual, then there should be no way to change their orientation. But If the barrier is broken and with the addition of peer pressure from aggressiveness, I firmly believe it is not impossible that homosexuality will increase and the worst outcome is to lead to bisexuality......
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Your comments above have \"kinda\" justified my concerns on the negative influences from this unnatural lifestyle” on our youngsters and the impact to our society especially in the longer term. Whatever religion one might be in, I felt that parents should play an active role in consciously shaping the minds of our young – that it is wrong and unnatural and should not be promoted. At the same time teach our kids to respect a homosexual as an individual because it may be true that “some” people are born with this inclination.
Biolab00, I wish you well and that you will have a happy and fulfilling life. Hope that one day you will be able to find “the” answer to your question... -
biolab00:
Hi biolab00, this paragraph is profoundly accurate, and more so in my life as I personally know of this one person, who was getting verbally and physically bullied by all except one of his classmates. John (not his real name) felt very rejected and hurt by the fact that all of his classmates could not like him the way he was, and even when he tried to change himself to fit the classmates views on how he could better himself.
.....Yes, homosexual is a sexual orientation and many people claim that it is something that you are born with. It is true. But that doesn't deny the fact that trauma and influence may also swing a person to lead to Homosexuality. Another human common sense, how can a person who is good-natured turned bad? Ans : Peer Pressure[/b]
After a few days, he realised that it was not working, so he thought that making himself out to be someone not \"wimpy\" would make the class seem more popular. He had seen some boys in his class do things that were not appropriate, or more likely, obscene. I do not know why, he started to do these actions to one boy.
That wasn't even the worst part. There was this incident that happened. Once, when John was going over to another person's desk, this boy he terrorised started to run away from him, as he did not like to be close to John. John had stopped his actions for a span of about a week. Suddenly, the other boy tripped over a desk, and John went to help him get up, but he wriggled away.
When another classmate helped the boy get up, he was so dazed that he tripped over a second time. That time, John went to help, but in the process, pulled the other boy's tie. When the boy had risen, he suddenly vomited.
The teachers are now talking to John and gathering information about the case. I feel so sorry that John had to be led down this path because of his classmates. Peer pressure is a nasty thing, and I hope that he will learn something from this, and learn to take things in his stride. :sad: -
Homosexuality. Very interesting topic. I also wonder whether it is nature or nurture, and also how much genes play a part.
I’ll write more later. -
Homosexuality.
I used to think they were really strange people. As other people here have pointed out, it seems to be so unnatural. As a guy, I also couldn’t understand how one can be sexually attracted to another guy. As for girls to be attracted to girls, ok fine, but still it just doesn’t seem right.
But after spending some years overseas, I suppose I’m more tolerant. It is far more open in Europe and America. And, I’ve worked with some gays/lesbians on professional or academic matters, and honestly they are sincere and capable people. Just that in the beginning, I found it a bit strange when they introduce themselves and after talking a while, they openly state they are gay or lesbian and they have a partner living with them etc etc
Increasingly it seems that some of the gays/lesbians are very creative people. Very talented individuals with many abilities to contribute to society in a positive way. Taking this perspective, it doesn’t make sense to discriminate against them.
Also, I think gays/lesbians are unlike very aggressive religious preachers. How many of us have had gays/lesbians trying to ‘convert’ you? It just doesn’t work that way. -
initially felt homosexuality is so unnatural. As most, i wouldnt, I cant even understand how someone could be turned on by same sex partner, so ergo something was wrong with them. Have met some professionally, realise that they are perfectly normal people , with inclinations different from the norm, who have had the courage and wisdom to accept themselves and do what they feel is right. What right i have to say that is unnatural? I have learned to keep an open mind now.
Then again the question is how many of us open-minded individuals (!) will accept it if one of our kids tells us that he is one?? That is the test of of hypocritical nature :roll: -
hi all, I’m in a very big dillemma here…
I sort of know that my uncle is a homosexual (found out he registered in one of the homosexual site), and he’s very close to my young kids (2.5yrs & 8mth)
a part of me want to distance our family from him but a part of me thinking it is a harmless thing being a homosexual.
what to do? what to do? will it become an infulential aspect to my kids when he/she grows up? -
noobparent:
Also, I think gays/lesbians are unlike very aggressive religious preachers. How many of us have had gays/lesbians trying to 'convert' you? It just doesn't work that way.
I don't think there is a fixed rule to behaviour so discernment is important. The worst kind of convert is not the aggressive push if you know what I mean. -
pampers:
If he is not propagating the trend and prefers to live in the closet, then there is nothing to worry and just respect his personal wishes. However, if he thinks this is so hip and should share the good news with the world, then you have to worry.hi all, I'm in a very big dillemma here...
I sort of know that my uncle is a homosexual (found out he registered in one of the homosexual site), and he's very close to my young kids (2.5yrs & 8mth)
a part of me want to distance our family from him but a part of me thinking it is a harmless thing being a homosexual.
what to do? what to do? will it become an infulential aspect to my kids when he/she grows up?
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