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    • zac's mumZ Offline
      zac's mum
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      coast\" post_id=\"2024731\" time=\"1621481997\" user_id=\"38933:

      starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2024717\" time=\"1621479570\" user_id=\"14025:

      https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/what-lies-beneath-the-unhappiness-over-covid-resurgence-in-spore

      Are you feeling so?

      IMO, it is a well-written article that reflects ground sentiments.

      Anecdotal evidence and open expressions of disaffection in the social media space would suggest that there is certainly unhappiness that early calls for a pause to arrivals from high-risk countries had gone unheeded.

      It is this, coupled with the suspicion that complacency had set in, that upset the complainants. And it is exacerbated by the perception that their honest misgivings have either been met with silence or deflected by officials who believe they have thought through everything and that the disgruntled Singaporeans just do not get the big picture.

      What fuelled this perception is the regular official reminder that Singapore needs migrant workers and that there will be a grave economic cost if the country shuts its borders. This has not gone down well because Singaporeans, by and large, do understand that foreign workers are needed in construction, nursing and other sectors which the local workforce shuns. And they are not clamouring for a complete shutdown of the borders.

      The exasperation is over the letting in of ...

      ...”non-productive/non-contributing dependents (especially elderly dependents) who impose a higher burden on our healthcare system and other resources”.

      Without any mention of race.

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      • ZappyZ Offline
        Zappy
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        floppy\" post_id=\"2024735\" time=\"1621483030\" user_id=\"97579:

        Err... He represents Sembawang GRC, a notoriously difficult place for opposition parties, especially if it's going to be SDP or NSP contesting there again. He will be safe from any backlash.
        Oh, I don't mean he will be voted out... or even kicked out by his own party. I don't think there will be any repercussions to any of them or their jobs- that's not really how politics work here in Sg.

        I was just saying that this time, I think he's the main cause of the issue for pushing through the agenda and also negligent in the controls.

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        • starlight1968sgS Offline
          starlight1968sg
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          coast\" post_id=\"2024732\" time=\"1621482441\" user_id=\"38933:

          zac's mum\" post_id=\"2024725\" time=\"1621481228\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2024725 time=1621481228 user_id=53606]So whose head should roll next GE hah?
          I don't think WP has scored points either. I may be wrong but did they voice out the concerns raised in the article?

          https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/what-lies-beneath-the-unhappiness-over-covid-resurgence-in-spore[/quote]
          No, they didn't and won't, which I am disappointed. If this article was written by them or they mentioned some of our concerns, I would be impressed

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          • floppyF Offline
            floppy
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            starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2024736\" time=\"1621483140\" user_id=\"14025:

            So that article did reflect our sentiments.

            I also agree if my family is in boiling water, I would try all means to get them out to a safer place where I am. This is human nature.
            I have several friends with families (spouse, children, etc) in Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia. Many had not seen their families physically for over 1 year. The point is, if many had made the sacrificed for the good of everyone else, why was there a special dispensation made for another?

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            • MrsKiasuM Offline
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              floppy\" post_id=\"2024740\" time=\"1621483624\" user_id=\"97579:

              starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2024736\" time=\"1621483140\" user_id=\"14025:

              So that article did reflect our sentiments.

              I also agree if my family is in boiling water, I would try all means to get them out to a safer place where I am. This is human nature.

              I have several friends with families (spouse, children, etc) in Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia. Many had not seen their families physically for over 1 year. The point is, if many had made the sacrificed for the good of everyone else, why was there a special dispensation made for another?

              Yes!! Slam table. The older ones how long runway they have. For younger ones, how much they have missed out 😢

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              • coastC Offline
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                What fuelled this perception is the regular official reminder that Singapore needs migrant workers and that there will be a grave economic cost if the country shuts its borders. This has not gone down well because Singaporeans, by and large, do understand that foreign workers are needed in construction, nursing and other sectors which the local workforce shuns. And they are not clamouring for a complete shutdown of the borders.


                https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/what-lies-beneath-the-unhappiness-over-covid-resurgence-in-spore

                It did get a bit frustrating that the authorities keep such reminders without seeming to realise the above ...

                Just 2 days ago, another \"reminder\" - The ministry revealed this in response to recent calls by members of the public to shut Singapore's borders entirely in order to bring down the number of imported Covid-19 cases...

                https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/businesses-families-would-have-been-severely-hit-if-singapore-closed-its-borders-to

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                • starlight1968sgS Offline
                  starlight1968sg
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                  BTW, can family members in neighboring countries enter Singapore by abiding the quarantine requirements etc?

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                  • . Offline
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                    zac's mum\" post_id=\"2024705\" time=\"1621471465\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2024705 time=1621471465 user_id=53606]
                    Also, if Eg the index case had eaten at the Terminal 3 food court, then his TT data would have allowed MOH to narrow down the contacts to those sitting near him. They could just phone those few people immediately. Don’t need to send out a public appeal to everyone who checked in to the food court that day to go for (voluntary) swab. Look at the long Qs of worried people waiting to be swabbed now, just becos they happened to be at the same malls as the confirmed cases. Could be a whole waste of time & resources like 海底捞针.[/quote]
                    Actually I find it strange that Singapore and Taiwan are inviting people who've potentially come into contact with confirmed cases to voluntarily go to the swab stations to be tested. They place the onus on potentials to step forward to be tested, instead of forcing them to be tested like what the HK govt is doing (''ambush'' style midnight lockdown testing). A tad draconian but seems like it's working for HK.

                    For us, we still kindly and civilly appealed to people who'd visited White Sands, JEM, Westgate to be swabbed. What if this 路人甲 does not read online news? Definitely will have people who bochup the request to be swabbed, e.g. the riders or people in denial.

                    IHLs, hostels, army camps, hospitals, companies, civil service departments, jail and dorms have no problem with administering centralised testing.

                    Before they reduced 8pax to 5pax, many F&Bs, night spots and retail malls were so crowded with people trying to have their last meals with their friends and relatives, or possibly pre-celebrating Mother's Day. I was at a makan enclave on the eve of that new ruling with my DC. It was super swarmed with youngsters and families in snaking queues outside eateries. Was literally 水泄不通 along the 5-foot-way. I peeked inside those mookata, prata, Korean BBQ and mala hotpot restaurants, aiyo, 8 persons squeezed together at the BBQ table digging in their food and chatting loudly without masks on. True enough weeks later I saw 2 outlets had confirmed cases.

                    How to trace these diners and loiterers? Passersby like us didn't need to TT as we merely walked past the restaurants full of alfresco seats and queues outside.

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                    • coastC Offline
                      coast
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                      starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2024739\" time=\"1621483460\" user_id=\"14025:

                      coast\" post_id=\"2024732\" time=\"1621482441\" user_id=\"38933:

                      [quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2024725 time=1621481228 user_id=53606]So whose head should roll next GE hah?

                      I don't think WP has scored points either. I may be wrong but did they voice out the concerns raised in the article?

                      https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/what-lies-beneath-the-unhappiness-over-covid-resurgence-in-spore

                      No, they didn't and won't, which I am disappointed. If this article was written by them or they mentioned some of our concerns, I would be impressed[/quote]Maybe they did not think these concerns reflect the ground sentiments.

                      Let's hope the community cases drop to single digits and no unlinked cases soon!

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                        I was surprised some of the school cluster people were put on LOA. Does it mean they can still go to the supermarket (in twos) to shop?


                        \"Meanwhile, all staff and students who are close contacts with the Covid-19 cases from Kong Hwa School and St Stephen’s School will be placed on leave of absence or quarantined.\"
                        https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/more-schools-move-to-home-based-learning-after-students-test-positive

                        Last year we saw Singaporeans and PRC undergrads who'd returned from their March vacation or home trips being placed on 14-day LOA. Netizens were concerned that those LOA fellas were still able to gallivant, resulting in 防疫破口。 I don't know the protocols this year, but technically, they can go out after dark to buy essentials from the 24hr shops yah?

                        The St Stephens boy in that video posted by emoh was LOA'd first before getting a call that they had to be QO'd. Hope they did not roam the streets while being LOA'd.

                        There was one Jade-so & so blogger who'd complained that her new Indonesian helper was not picked up immediately after being informed she was positive. Likewise, St Stephens boy was also not picked up promptly by CISCO Certis until 48-36 hours later, Sun 9pm. Could it be because CISCO escorts were fully booked during this period?

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