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    • starlight1968sgS Offline
      starlight1968sg
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      ladies

      mine has 15 days of leave which i hv to convert to cash 😞
      MOM renewal WP fee: $35
      Insurance fee
      Would a budget return airfare (Manila) at $300 ok?
      Thank you.

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      • starlight1968sgS Offline
        starlight1968sg
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        Mine started work on 9 Sep 2021 and hence I take it that the new contract will start on 9 Sep 2021.

        Is this correct?

        When will MOM send us a letter on renewal?

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        • starlight1968sgS Offline
          starlight1968sg
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          Need advice again, pls.


          How to renew or settle the Security bond?

          For the insurance premium, can we just ask an insurance agent to provide a quote on insurance for helpers and then buy it?

          Thank you.

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          • EstéemaE Offline
            Estéema
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            starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2028827\" time=\"1625133436\" user_id=\"14025:

            Mine started work on 9 Sep 2021 and hence I take it that the new contract will start on 9 Sep 2021.
            Is this correct?

            When will MOM send us a letter on renewal?
            Normally, they are very prompt. Apply morning, Bt on will receive approval, unless hv issues. If renewal, shld be strfwd

            Note to error correction :

            Normally, .... Apply morning, by pm will receive approval, ....

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            • EstéemaE Offline
              Estéema
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              starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2028831\" time=\"1625136297\" user_id=\"14025:

              Need advice again, pls.

              How to renew or settle the Security bond?

              For the insurance premium, can we just ask an insurance agent to provide a quote on insurance for helpers and then buy it?

              Thank you.
              I buy NTUC Income insurance. In fact, I used to hv renewal service & they collect renewed WP as part of their service. Not sure if they still do now. Go online check their website. When u purchase, best call & ask for email copy of insurance first. They’ll eventually send the hardcopy document.

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              • starlight1968sgS Offline
                starlight1968sg
                last edited by

                Tks Esteema for replying.


                When is the appropriate time to tell the helper on our offer? She started work on 9 Sep 2019.

                Do we tell her and get her to sign the new "contract" on the spot?

                For the "contract" am drafting, besides the signatures of helper and employer, need to get the signature of a witness? can another family member be the witness?

                Do we give her the cash of 15 days of leave and return airfare on the start of a new contract ie 9 Sep 2021?

                Thank you.

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                • sky minecrafterS Offline
                  sky minecrafter
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                  starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2028826\" time=\"1625133161\" user_id=\"14025:
                  starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2028827\" time=\"1625133436\" user_id=\"14025:[quote=starlight1968sg post_id=2028827 time=1625133436 user_id=14025]...Mine started work on 9 Sep 2021 and hence (3) I take it that the new contract will start on 9 Sep 2021.
                  Is this correct?
                  (4) When will MOM send us a letter on renewal?...
                  starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2028831\" time=\"1625136297\" user_id=\"14025:
                  starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2028847\" time=\"1625143066\" user_id=\"14025:[quote=starlight1968sg post_id=2028847 time=1625143066 user_id=14025](7) When is the appropriate time to tell the helper on our offer? She started work on 9 Sep 2019.
                  (8) Do we tell her and get her to sign the new \"contract\" on the spot?
                  (9) For the \"contract\" am drafting, besides the signatures of helper and employer, need to get the signature of a witness? can another family member be the witness?
                  (10) Do we give her the cash of 15 days of leave and return airfare on the start of a new contract ie 9 Sep 2021?
                  (1) We also converted leave to cash
                  (2) Airfare - your earlier contract may already have an amount indicated? Otherwise, just Google and quote the cheapest, for instance: https://www.cheapflights.com.sg/flight-search/SIN,nearby-MNL,nearby/2021-09-10/2021-09-24?isSEM=true#_
                  Or, decide on an amount which makes sense to you?
                  We thought it would be easier to show our DW, so we Googled
                  (3) New contract start date - we just put it as the next day after the earlier's expiry
                  (4) MOM sent an email reminder 2 months before the wp expiry
                  Btw, MOM will not issue a new wp card, but will just update the QR code information
                  (5) Security bond - sorry, we shall need Estéema's expertise, cos my agency did the whole renewal thing for us foc
                  (6) Insurance - even though our DW only wants to extend 1 more year, we bought a 2 year insurance plan, at the highest premium, for the sake of convenience -> ~$560 (Aviva)
                  (7) We lumped it around her usual pay day, but of course itemising the amount for clarity
                  (8) Yes if she has no issues
                  (9) We didn't bother with a witness
                  (10) Yup

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                  • EstéemaE Offline
                    Estéema
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                    starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2028847\" time=\"1625143066\" user_id=\"14025:

                    Tks Esteema for replying.

                    When is the appropriate time to tell the helper on our offer? She started work on 9 Sep 2019.

                    Do we tell her and get her to sign the new \"contract\" on the spot?

                    For the \"contract\" am drafting, besides the signatures of helper and employer, need to get the signature of a witness? can another family member be the witness?

                    Do we give her the cash of 15 days of leave and return airfare on the start of a new contract ie 9 Sep 2021?

                    Thank you.
                    2 mths before expiry is ideal or latest 1-half months as u need time to process renewal approvals (1 day to 1 mth in cases of complication); yr helper will also need time to get transfer papers in event she prefers to change eyer (requires >30 days’ WP validity to apply transfers); insurance to cover new WP period (takes 1-2 weeks); and medical if due for next medical.

                    If she is eventually not staying in SG, u’ll need yr buffer time to get a replacement. If u get a transfer helper than less hassle. If u’re getting no ex SG helpers, u need to buffer in quarantine period & training day.

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                    • EstéemaE Offline
                      Estéema
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                      @ Star

                      I’m sorry, I realized I’ve missed some of yr enquiries & hv not answered in detail.

                      Security Bond wld be part of yr FDW insurance. Even with our current helper who had been renewing her contract with us, we always pay that extra bit to incl runaway helper, just for peace of mind.

                      My suggestion is go online to NTUC INCOME & any other insurance companies offering FDW insurance covers & compare. I’m used to getting fr NTUC Income as it covers quite comprehensively w/o loaded costs. Also, coz when I used to work, I simply hv no time to collect her W/passport renewal if required. The reason why I mentioned new WP is that if yr helper’s passport is due, MOM will only provide in-principle approval if yr FDW’s passport have at least 6-mth validity, but as Eyers, u wld prefer to get their passport renewed for this renew service contract, o’wise it’s a double hassle. Ano point to note esp if u hv a Filipino helper, u’ll need more time (I forgotten if it’s 1 or 2 months for the Philippines passport processes). So, u don’t want to be caught short & hv to scramble.

                      As gor Indonesian helper, my own experience was u fortunate as I encountered an embassy officer who took a personal interests to getting the best for their citizens & insists i nortorize my empymt contract with their appointed lawyers before they’ll endorse her new passport, but I happen to meet the senior officer and explained my need to renew my helper’s WP, but her passport was short. He was very kind & interviewed my helper & allowed me to do my own new contract with terms clearly spelt & the passport was processed w/o the need to scramble or run to one of the law firms in town as I was taking time off fr work then.

                      So, do give enuf time for unforeseen circumstances or delays.

                      I wld as ice getting ready the new contract & pen in the new terms (new salary, day offs, home leave…) and sign quickly. In this covid period, helper’s can change their mind & oftentimes advices come fr external parties advising her helpers are short arriving due to covid & they shld seek much ‘higher’ pay. I’ve heard a recent case of an agency transferring a helper to my relative, but shortly arriving, she indicated that she wish to return home to marry in Nov & claimed the agency is aware. The agency simply avail ano change but all other costs rina all over again (MOM WP, medical, insurance, etc) which means a new set of expenses. We’re not sure if this was taught to her by agency (as the duration fits 6-mth fr May), but it certainly leave my relative in distress after paying slightly over $1K of fees and she wld not hv her Indo maid to help train a new helper with h’hold duties & her need to be supported correctly into her wheelchair when she needs to leave home for errands.

                      Even with our current helper, every transaction (agreed conversion of home leave based on her current salary; airfare; request for buying out her off-day) we always ensure written piece as well as bank transfer into her acct. MOM made it compulsory for all FDW to hold a bank acct and we leave no avenues for dispute.

                      Feel free to ask if there are further info I can share.

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                      • starlight1968sgS Offline
                        starlight1968sg
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                        Tks a lot ladies for replying.

                        I need to settle this project ASAP.

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