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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • P Offline
      pirate
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      My left shoulder became no longer stiff after the P vaccine! I know of a few other older people who experienced "bonus" side effects after taking the P vaccine - reduced back/joint aches and stiffness. So it’s not necessarily all bad. Will that help to persuade a few more elderly to take the vaccine?

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      • Coolkidsrock2C Offline
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        MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2030142\" time=\"1625995437\" user_id=\"43981:

        Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2030140\" time=\"1625994742\" user_id=\"48901:

        [quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2030136 time=1625991781 user_id=43981]My bro has been sleeping alot with Pfizer.. err, anyone noticed increased of appetite with P at least first few days after D1 :razz:

        No side effect for me after 1st dose. But have heard of fatigue, hunger or thirst from friends.

        So hunger is a real one haha. I was expecting myself to feel tired .. but all in my mind was I want to eat. Best thing is eat but don't put on weight type. Anyways I have one little symptom that they deferred me from my D2 now cleared and I can go for it.

        To add..may I know how's your reaction to D2?[/quote]D2 not yet for me and DS. Month-end. Did not bother to bring it forward.

        We started drinking coconut water, ling yang, barley from 2 weeks before the jab.

        No side effect for my mum and hubby after D2. Slight fever just above 37 or soreness for some others I know. Generally well-tolerated amongst my circle.

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        • MrsKiasuM Offline
          MrsKiasu
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          Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2030167\" time=\"1626011568\" user_id=\"48901:

          MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2030142\" time=\"1625995437\" user_id=\"43981:

          [quote=Coolkidsrock2 post_id=2030140 time=1625994742 user_id=48901]

          No side effect for me after 1st dose. But have heard of fatigue, hunger or thirst from friends.

          So hunger is a real one haha. I was expecting myself to feel tired .. but all in my mind was I want to eat. Best thing is eat but don't put on weight type. Anyways I have one little symptom that they deferred me from my D2 now cleared and I can go for it.

          To add..may I know how's your reaction to D2?

          D2 not yet for me and DS. Month-end. Did not bother to bring it forward.

          We started drinking coconut water, ling yang, barley from 2 weeks before the jab.

          No side effect for my mum and hubby after D2. Slight fever just above 37 or soreness for some others I know. Generally well-tolerated amongst my circle.[/quote]Then mine will be earlier than yours. Will do some update here. Maybe I shall cook some barley water. My mom also says need to drink alot of water.

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          • zac's mumZ Offline
            zac's mum
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            Seems like if want to minimize side effects, females should take Pfizer & males should take Moderna 😄

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            • EstéemaE Offline
              Estéema
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              zac's mum\" post_id=\"2030169\" time=\"1626012094\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2030169 time=1626012094 user_id=53606]
              Seems like if want to minimize side effects, females should take Pfizer & males should take Moderna 😄[/quote]
              So, there is a difference which male/female shld take? Didn’t know that. I do rmbr DH had a 2-day ordeal. I don’t seem to rmbr if it was any difficult at all for myself, just that I think I had a small headache, numbness of arm & slight dizziness for a few hours but slept well & bounce back by 2nd day for both jabs.

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              • zac's mumZ Offline
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                Estéema\" post_id=\"2030173\" time=\"1626014259\" user_id=\"66413:

                zac's mum\" post_id=\"2030169\" time=\"1626012094\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2030169 time=1626012094 user_id=53606]Seems like if want to minimize side effects, females should take Pfizer & males should take Moderna 😄
                So, there is a difference which male/female shld take? Didn’t know that. I do rmbr DH had a 2-day ordeal. I don’t seem to rmbr if it was any difficult at all for myself, just that I think I had a small headache, numbness of arm & slight dizziness for a few hours but slept well & bounce back by 2nd day for both jabs.[/quote]
                Just based on my social circle:
                - very few people age >45 experienced side effects for P and M
                - for age <45, at least 10 of my female friends who took M experienced my type of “not able to go to work” type of side effects, 1st dose bad & 2nd dose even worse. Those who took P: minimal side effects. The males who took M: also minimal side effects.
                - for age <30, I believe the incidence (worldwide and SG) of males who took P and had heart trouble is quite worrying. Especially for active teens, if don’t want to refrain from exercising for 1 whole week, maybe can wait for M (or other brand) to be approved for <18.

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                • EstéemaE Offline
                  Estéema
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                  Interesting read for both Pfizer & Moderna effects under watch so far.


                  https://sg.yahoo.com/news/eu-regulator-lists-heart-condition-113210952.html

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                  • N Offline
                    ngl2010
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                    pirate\" post_id=\"2030150\" time=\"1625999568\" user_id=\"66252:

                    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/indonesia-covid-19-spike-idul-fitri-delta-quarantine-tracing-15138518

                    All those who like to spread the disinformation that Sinovac is not effective against Delta should read this, especially the graph. This is the reason why the Indonesian government is more than happy with Sinovac.

                    If Sinovac is not sufficiently effective against Delta, most of their medical personnel will be dead or down by now with serious Covid.

                    But, nevermind. Keep up the disinformation and discrimination. It just means our seniors will get vaccinated slower.

                    Further down the line, we will open up to Europe and the US, but not China, Hong Kong, Malaysia and Indonesia? Like that makes sense. Maybe we can move our little island to the Mediterranean while we are at it. :roll:

                    I get it. Some people, including our expert committee, require data to be served to them on a silver platter. In government speak, it's called covering one's backside.
                    If the Indonesian government is happy with Sinovac, why are they going to inject their medical workers who already had 2 Sinovac jabs with Moderna as their 3rd jab as soon as Moderna arrives in Indonesia in these few days? It doesn’t make sense to me.

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                    • P Offline
                      pirate
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                      That's like asking why our government is already talking about a third jab come February.


                      If you can potentially boost protection for your medical workers amidst a raging pandemic from 95% to 99%, will you not? The operative word here is \"potentially\" because there is as yet no real world data to show it actually makes a difference whether the booster is an mRNA vaccine.

                      A 3rd booster shot to Pfizer or Moderna is to increase effectiveness against variants. A 3rd booster shot to Sinovac is because it is not good enough.

                      People fully inoculated with mRNA vaccines still get infected because of breakthroughs. People fully inoculated with Sinovac still get infected because it is not good enough.

                      The double standard in this kind of reporting is palpable, and absolutely unscientific.

                      Speaking of double standards, read this.

                      https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/hundreds-of-thai-medical-workers-infected-despite-sinovac-vaccinations

                      Maybe we can also have a headline: Singapore medical workers in several hospitals infected despite full doses of mRNA vaccines even though local infections remain low.

                      Or how about: almost 90% of those infected in Singapore care home were fully inoculated with mRNA vaccines?

                      If you are not alert to this kind of doublespeak, you make yourself vulnerable to propaganda. Singapore does not need to be a tool. The virus does not read.

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                      • sharonkhooS Offline
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                        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2030175\" time=\"1626015740\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2030175 time=1626015740 user_id=53606]
                        Estéema\" post_id=\"2030173\" time=\"1626014259\" user_id=\"66413:
                        [quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2030169 time=1626012094 user_id=53606]Seems like if want to minimize side effects, females should take Pfizer & males should take Moderna 😄
                        So, there is a difference which male/female shld take? Didn’t know that. I do rmbr DH had a 2-day ordeal. I don’t seem to rmbr if it was any difficult at all for myself, just that I think I had a small headache, numbness of arm & slight dizziness for a few hours but slept well & bounce back by 2nd day for both jabs.[/quote]
                        Just based on my social circle:
                        - very few people age >45 experienced side effects for P and M
                        - for age <45, at least 10 of my female friends who took M experienced my type of “not able to go to work” type of side effects, 1st dose bad & 2nd dose even worse. Those who took P: minimal side effects. The males who took M: also minimal side effects.
                        - for age <30, I believe the incidence (worldwide and SG) of males who took P and had heart trouble is quite worrying. Especially for active teens, if don’t want to refrain from exercising for 1 whole week, maybe can wait for M (or other brand) to be approved for <18.[/quote]Based my circle: those over 70 don't seem to have suffered many side effects.
                        Of those in their 50s and 60s, most only had sore arm and a day or 2 of slight fever, and some had fatigue for a day or 2. My husband and I, and a colleague, had the M vaccine (the others took P), and my husband had sore arm and fever, the colleague (male) had sore arm, and I had sore arm and a bit of fatigue (about 2 days).
                        My daughter and another colleague (20-30s) took M first dose, and had sore arm and some fatigue. They haven't had their 2nd dose yet.

                        Nothing major compared to the ravages that Covid can have on the unvaccinated.

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