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    2021 P1 Registration Exercise for 2022 In-take

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    • C Offline
      CALYNSEA
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      Lexy\" post_id=\"2029903\" time=\"1625831137\" user_id=\"12180:

      Not yet analyse the MK schools in totality but my recollection of Horizon and Riverside is that both were MK last year as well.

      Update post : Horizon MK took in K1 in 2020, so should expect an increase in 2A2 this year. Waterway, Oasis increased ard 60-70 due to MK. so could be possible to have balloting situation at Horizon at 2A2.

      While it means some school will go into balloting due to MK, the oods may not be as bad as 2C when places become more scarce, the entry into MK already have spilt hair distance into 500m interval plus priority for those with siblings in MK or Primary.The fight zone is actually 2C when places are limited.

      Anyway Rulang maybe be around 2-3X and temasek around 3-4X oversubscribed. With limited alternative in 2A2, folks will still enrol and try.

      This is my take:
      - Taking in the total number of applications for Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2 in 2020 (potential no. of former students)
      - Less the number of applications for Phase 2A2 in 2021
      - Remainder (potential incoming) compared to the vacancy for Phase 2A2 in 2021

      Very High Risk, i.e. potential incoming > vacancy
      1. Temasek Primary School (-33)
      2. Rulang Primary School (-26)
      3. Gongshang Primary School (-9)
      4. St. Hilda’s Primary School (-9)
      5. Fairfield Methodist School (Primary) (-4)
      6. Tao Nan School (-4)
      7. Methodist Girls’ School (Primary) (-1)

      High Risk, i.e. less than 10 places between potential incoming and vacancy
      1. Chongzheng Primary School (4)
      2. Henry Park Primary School (6)
      3. Yu Neng Primary School (6)
      4. Red Swastika School (8)
      5. Nan Hua Primary School* (9)
      6. Singapore Chinese Girls’ Primary School (9)

      *Nan Hua is an interesting case.
      No. of applicants for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (88) has already exceeded last year's (84). That suggests it may not have many potential applicants for Phase 2A2 as most would have been spooked enough to sign up. Thankfully, the number of vacancy for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (93) is significantly more (+20.3%) than last year's (77) which helps to absorb all the applicants for Phase 2A1. Notwithstanding, I won't discount the possibility of some alumni who might not have signed up but could decide to jump into the mix once Phase 2A2 opens.

      Actually initially I thought like wise too for some other schools, like maybe looking at last year applicants, some might have signed up to be alumni so as to qualify for 2A1 this year and thus 2A2 applicants this year may be lower. But I went to look at MOE website and saw that need to join alumni no later than 30 June 2020, which mean for 2021 applicants, if they saw 2020 applicants numbers and decided to sign up for alumni, it will be too late?

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        floppy
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        CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2030253\" time=\"1626066176\" user_id=\"181903:

        floppy\" post_id=\"2030239\" time=\"1626061919\" user_id=\"97579:

        [quote=Lexy post_id=2029903 time=1625831137 user_id=12180]Not yet analyse the MK schools in totality but my recollection of Horizon and Riverside is that both were MK last year as well.

        Update post : Horizon MK took in K1 in 2020, so should expect an increase in 2A2 this year. Waterway, Oasis increased ard 60-70 due to MK. so could be possible to have balloting situation at Horizon at 2A2.

        While it means some school will go into balloting due to MK, the oods may not be as bad as 2C when places become more scarce, the entry into MK already have spilt hair distance into 500m interval plus priority for those with siblings in MK or Primary.The fight zone is actually 2C when places are limited.

        Anyway Rulang maybe be around 2-3X and temasek around 3-4X oversubscribed. With limited alternative in 2A2, folks will still enrol and try.

        This is my take:
        - Taking in the total number of applications for Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2 in 2020 (potential no. of former students)
        - Less the number of applications for Phase 2A2 in 2021
        - Remainder (potential incoming) compared to the vacancy for Phase 2A2 in 2021

        Very High Risk, i.e. potential incoming > vacancy
        1. Temasek Primary School (-33)
        2. Rulang Primary School (-26)
        3. Gongshang Primary School (-9)
        4. St. Hilda’s Primary School (-9)
        5. Fairfield Methodist School (Primary) (-4)
        6. Tao Nan School (-4)
        7. Methodist Girls’ School (Primary) (-1)

        High Risk, i.e. less than 10 places between potential incoming and vacancy
        1. Chongzheng Primary School (4)
        2. Henry Park Primary School (6)
        3. Yu Neng Primary School (6)
        4. Red Swastika School (8)
        5. Nan Hua Primary School* (9)
        6. Singapore Chinese Girls’ Primary School (9)

        *Nan Hua is an interesting case.
        No. of applicants for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (88) has already exceeded last year's (84). That suggests it may not have many potential applicants for Phase 2A2 as most would have been spooked enough to sign up. Thankfully, the number of vacancy for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (93) is significantly more (+20.3%) than last year's (77) which helps to absorb all the applicants for Phase 2A1. Notwithstanding, I won't discount the possibility of some alumni who might not have signed up but could decide to jump into the mix once Phase 2A2 opens.

        Actually initially I thought like wise too for some other schools, like maybe looking at last year applicants, some might have signed up to be alumni so as to qualify for 2A1 this year and thus 2A2 applicants this year may be lower. But I went to look at MOE website and saw that need to join alumni no later than 30 June 2020, which mean for 2021 applicants, if they saw 2020 applicants numbers and decided to sign up for alumni, it will be too late?[/quote]Most would have signed up before 30 June 2020. There will be some 'laggards' but the numbers won't be huge since most of the high risk schools are already there or thereabouts for so many years.

        Names like Rulang, St. Hilda’s, Tao Nan, MGS, Henry Park, Red Swastika and Nan Hua wouldn't surprise anyone that they are at high risk this year, or last year, or any other year. What's probably unpredictable is the number of Phase 1 applicants since that could vary widely every year. Regardless of what happen to the MOE review on P1 registration, parents with old boys / old girls status who are aiming for these popular schools (including the Phase 2A1 balloted schools) should join the alumni association ASAP. If, indeed that MOE is further going to reduce the number of available vacancy for Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2, it's going to become harder to get in.

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          CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2030253\" time=\"1626066176\" user_id=\"181903:

          [quote=floppy post_id=2030239 time=1626061919 user_id=97579]

          This is my take:
          - Taking in the total number of applications for Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2 in 2020 (potential no. of former students)
          - Less the number of applications for Phase 2A2 in 2021
          - Remainder (potential incoming) compared to the vacancy for Phase 2A2 in 2021

          Very High Risk, i.e. potential incoming > vacancy
          1. Temasek Primary School (-33)
          2. Rulang Primary School (-26)
          3. Gongshang Primary School (-9)
          4. St. Hilda’s Primary School (-9)
          5. Fairfield Methodist School (Primary) (-4)
          6. Tao Nan School (-4)
          7. Methodist Girls’ School (Primary) (-1)

          High Risk, i.e. less than 10 places between potential incoming and vacancy
          1. Chongzheng Primary School (4)
          2. Henry Park Primary School (6)
          3. Yu Neng Primary School (6)
          4. Red Swastika School (8)
          5. Nan Hua Primary School* (9)
          6. Singapore Chinese Girls’ Primary School (9)

          *Nan Hua is an interesting case.
          No. of applicants for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (88) has already exceeded last year's (84). That suggests it may not have many potential applicants for Phase 2A2 as most would have been spooked enough to sign up. Thankfully, the number of vacancy for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (93) is significantly more (+20.3%) than last year's (77) which helps to absorb all the applicants for Phase 2A1. Notwithstanding, I won't discount the possibility of some alumni who might not have signed up but could decide to jump into the mix once Phase 2A2 opens.

          Actually initially I thought like wise too for some other schools, like maybe looking at last year applicants, some might have signed up to be alumni so as to qualify for 2A1 this year and thus 2A2 applicants this year may be lower. But I went to look at MOE website and saw that need to join alumni no later than 30 June 2020, which mean for 2021 applicants, if they saw 2020 applicants numbers and decided to sign up for alumni, it will be too late?

          Most would have signed up before 30 June 2020. There will be some 'laggards' but the numbers won't be huge since most of the high risk schools are already there or thereabouts for so many years.

          Names like Rulang, St. Hilda’s, Tao Nan, MGS, Henry Park, Red Swastika and Nan Hua wouldn't surprise anyone that they are at high risk this year, or last year, or any other year. What's probably unpredictable is the number of Phase 1 applicants since that could vary widely every year. Regardless of what happen to the MOE review on P1 registration, parents with old boys / old girls status who are aiming for these popular schools (including the Phase 2A1 balloted schools) should join the alumni association ASAP. If, indeed that MOE is further going to reduce the number of available vacancy for Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2, it's going to become harder to get in.[/quote]Based on the numbers so far, do you think RGPS need to ballot for <1KM for Phase 2C?

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          • floppyF Offline
            floppy
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            Based on the numbers so far, do you think RGPS need to ballot for <1KM for Phase 2C?
            While I would like to say it's quite unlikely to ballot < 1km, it is really impossible to tell. Based on numbers, the school is running ahead of last year's vacancy, i.e. compared to the same stage last year, it's currently +28 places for Phase 2B. However, what's happening at NYPS may have a ripple effect on RGPS.

            NYPS has significant overlap with RGPS for the < 1km zone and NYPS is currently confirmed 20 / 20 places each for Phase 2B and Phase 2C. Depending on the number of parents (if their child is a girl) who are making a switch to RGPS, it could drastically alter the whole balance. Notwithstanding, I would think a 20+ buffer compared to last year should be safe for the < 1km at RGPS.

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              CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2030284\" time=\"1626075194\" user_id=\"181903:


              Based on the numbers so far, do you think RGPS need to ballot for <1KM for Phase 2C?

              While I would like to say it's quite unlikely to ballot < 1km, it is really impossible to tell. Based on numbers, the school is running ahead of last year's vacancy, i.e. compared to the same stage last year, it's currently +28 places for Phase 2B. However, what's happening at NYPS may have a ripple effect on RGPS.

              NYPS has significant overlap with RGPS for the < 1km zone and NYPS is currently confirmed 20 / 20 places each for Phase 2B and Phase 2C. Depending on the number of parents (if their child is a girl) who are making a switch to RGPS, it could drastically alter the whole balance. Notwithstanding, I would think a 20+ buffer compared to last year should be safe for the < 1km at RGPS.

              Well another one month before all will be known.

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                Stevenage
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                The MOE website has been updated with the 2A(2) vacancies.


                https://www.moe.gov.sg/primary/p1-registration/vacancies-and-balloting

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                  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/phase-2a2-of-p1-registration-begins-july-14-no-spots-in-6-schools

                  [quote]All available spots at these schools were snapped up during the second phase:
                  1. Ai Tong Primary School
                  2. Catholic High School (Primary)
                  3. CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls' School (Primary)
                  4. Nanyang Primary School
                  5. Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary School
                  6. Rosyth School[/quote]

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                    Lexy
                    last edited by

                    floppy\" post_id=\"2030239\" time=\"1626061919\" user_id=\"97579:

                    Lexy\" post_id=\"2029903\" time=\"1625831137\" user_id=\"12180:

                    Not yet analyse the MK schools in totality but my recollection of Horizon and Riverside is that both were MK last year as well.

                    Update post : Horizon MK took in K1 in 2020, so should expect an increase in 2A2 this year. Waterway, Oasis increased ard 60-70 due to MK. so could be possible to have balloting situation at Horizon at 2A2.

                    While it means some school will go into balloting due to MK, the oods may not be as bad as 2C when places become more scarce, the entry into MK already have spilt hair distance into 500m interval plus priority for those with siblings in MK or Primary.The fight zone is actually 2C when places are limited.

                    Anyway Rulang maybe be around 2-3X and temasek around 3-4X oversubscribed. With limited alternative in 2A2, folks will still enrol and try.

                    This is my take:
                    - Taking in the total number of applications for Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2 in 2020 (potential no. of former students)
                    - Less the number of applications for Phase 2A2 in 2021
                    - Remainder (potential incoming) compared to the vacancy for Phase 2A2 in 2021

                    Very High Risk, i.e. potential incoming > vacancy
                    1. Temasek Primary School (-33)
                    2. Rulang Primary School (-26)
                    3. Gongshang Primary School (-9)
                    4. St. Hilda’s Primary School (-9)
                    5. Fairfield Methodist School (Primary) (-4)
                    6. Tao Nan School (-4)
                    7. Methodist Girls’ School (Primary) (-1)

                    High Risk, i.e. less than 10 places between potential incoming and vacancy
                    1. Chongzheng Primary School (4)
                    2. Henry Park Primary School (6)
                    3. Yu Neng Primary School (6)
                    4. Red Swastika School (8)
                    5. Nan Hua Primary School* (9)
                    6. Singapore Chinese Girls’ Primary School (9)

                    *Nan Hua is an interesting case.
                    No. of applicants for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (88) has already exceeded last year's (84). That suggests it may not have many potential applicants for Phase 2A2 as most would have been spooked enough to sign up. Thankfully, the number of vacancy for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (93) is significantly more (+20.3%) than last year's (77) which helps to absorb all the applicants for Phase 2A1. Notwithstanding, I won't discount the possibility of some alumni who might not have signed up but could decide to jump into the mix once Phase 2A2 opens.

                    In 2018, 84 applied under 2A1 and 22 applied 2A2, so potential number is rather high. I would think there should have a group of those parent who didn’t enrol alumni on time or siblings’ category. I would think its most likely to go for balloting.

                    So here is my revised list:

                    2A2 risk

                    RULANG Most likely (2020 ballot 1-2km)
                    TEMASEK (2020 ballot 1-2km)
                    Nan Hua
                    TNS
                    GONGSHANG
                    PEI CHUN
                    RED SWASTIKA
                    ST. HILDA'S
                    HENRY PARK

                    More interesting cases:
                    HOLY INNOCENTS' (vacancy dropped by 44 places) may go for ballot in 2A2 for the first time
                    Horizon - possible MK effect

                    Borderline cases below:
                    YU NENG
                    CHONGZHENG
                    FAIRFIELD
                    PRINCESS ELIZABETH
                    MGS

                    Btw, whichever possible outcome, parents usually do not have much alternative in this phase, just enrol and wait for result.

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                    • floppyF Offline
                      floppy
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                      While we wait for MOE’s next update of the registration numbers (by next Wednesday), a few schools are already going to ballot based on day 1 applications:


                      1. Frontier Primary (as is 82 vacancies, 94 applicants)
                      2. Horizon Primary (62 vacancies / 78 applicants)
                      3. Nan Hua (5 vacancies / 10 applicants)
                      4. Rulang (25 vacancies / 36 applicants)
                      5. Temasek (11 vacancies / 25 applicants)

                      - Schools 3 to 5 weren’t much of a surprise.
                      - Frontier and Horizon are examples of the ‘power’ of a MK school. There could well be a couple more joining them once day 2 numbers are updated.
                      - In terms of number of applicants, Frontier and Horizon are not unique among MK schools; most MK schools have between 50 to 90 applicants in Phase 2A2.
                      - If MOE doesn’t consider how to ‘balance’ MK status, in a couple of years time, the competition to enter a primary won’t be in Phase 2C but in Phase 2A2. There are a total of 58 current and future MK; including a couple of ‘hot’ schools coming online in the next few years (Alexandra, Gongshang, Jing Shan, Princess Elizabeth, Shuqun, South View, Temasek).
                      - People, i.e. those entering via Phase 2C, are upset about the ‘alumni’ status. While ‘alumni’ status does affect a few schools, the ‘damage’ is really limited to a few schools only (and every year, more or less the same). What people who are entering via Phase 2C should really, really, really (!!!) be worried about is MK schools at Phase 2A2.

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                        - People, i.e. those entering via Phase 2C, are upset about the 'alumni' status. While 'alumni' status does affect a few schools, the 'damage' is really limited to a few schools only (and every year, more or less the same). What people who are entering via Phase 2C should really, really, really (!!!) be worried about is MK schools at Phase 2A2.
                        Do agree that the alumni status only affect a handful of school, but these also happen to be (surprise) popular schools where the stakes are high.

                        Perhaps people are directing their frustration at 2A(1) folks because of the hereditary nature of this category?

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