2021 P1 Registration Exercise for 2022 In-take
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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/phase-2a2-of-p1-registration-begins-july-14-no-spots-in-6-schools
[quote]All available spots at these schools were snapped up during the second phase:
1. Ai Tong Primary School
2. Catholic High School (Primary)
3. CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls' School (Primary)
4. Nanyang Primary School
5. Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary School
6. Rosyth School[/quote] -
floppy\" post_id=\"2030239\" time=\"1626061919\" user_id=\"97579:
In 2018, 84 applied under 2A1 and 22 applied 2A2, so potential number is rather high. I would think there should have a group of those parent who didn’t enrol alumni on time or siblings’ category. I would think its most likely to go for balloting.
This is my take:Lexy\" post_id=\"2029903\" time=\"1625831137\" user_id=\"12180:
Not yet analyse the MK schools in totality but my recollection of Horizon and Riverside is that both were MK last year as well.
Update post : Horizon MK took in K1 in 2020, so should expect an increase in 2A2 this year. Waterway, Oasis increased ard 60-70 due to MK. so could be possible to have balloting situation at Horizon at 2A2.
While it means some school will go into balloting due to MK, the oods may not be as bad as 2C when places become more scarce, the entry into MK already have spilt hair distance into 500m interval plus priority for those with siblings in MK or Primary.The fight zone is actually 2C when places are limited.
Anyway Rulang maybe be around 2-3X and temasek around 3-4X oversubscribed. With limited alternative in 2A2, folks will still enrol and try.
- Taking in the total number of applications for Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2 in 2020 (potential no. of former students)
- Less the number of applications for Phase 2A2 in 2021
- Remainder (potential incoming) compared to the vacancy for Phase 2A2 in 2021
Very High Risk, i.e. potential incoming > vacancy
1. Temasek Primary School (-33)
2. Rulang Primary School (-26)
3. Gongshang Primary School (-9)
4. St. Hilda’s Primary School (-9)
5. Fairfield Methodist School (Primary) (-4)
6. Tao Nan School (-4)
7. Methodist Girls’ School (Primary) (-1)
High Risk, i.e. less than 10 places between potential incoming and vacancy
1. Chongzheng Primary School (4)
2. Henry Park Primary School (6)
3. Yu Neng Primary School (6)
4. Red Swastika School (8)
5. Nan Hua Primary School* (9)
6. Singapore Chinese Girls’ Primary School (9)
*Nan Hua is an interesting case.
No. of applicants for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (88) has already exceeded last year's (84). That suggests it may not have many potential applicants for Phase 2A2 as most would have been spooked enough to sign up. Thankfully, the number of vacancy for Phase 2A1 in 2021 (93) is significantly more (+20.3%) than last year's (77) which helps to absorb all the applicants for Phase 2A1. Notwithstanding, I won't discount the possibility of some alumni who might not have signed up but could decide to jump into the mix once Phase 2A2 opens.
So here is my revised list:
2A2 risk
RULANG Most likely (2020 ballot 1-2km)
TEMASEK (2020 ballot 1-2km)
Nan Hua
TNS
GONGSHANG
PEI CHUN
RED SWASTIKA
ST. HILDA'S
HENRY PARK
More interesting cases:
HOLY INNOCENTS' (vacancy dropped by 44 places) may go for ballot in 2A2 for the first time
Horizon - possible MK effect
Borderline cases below:
YU NENG
CHONGZHENG
FAIRFIELD
PRINCESS ELIZABETH
MGS
Btw, whichever possible outcome, parents usually do not have much alternative in this phase, just enrol and wait for result. -
While we wait for MOE’s next update of the registration numbers (by next Wednesday), a few schools are already going to ballot based on day 1 applications:
1. Frontier Primary (as is 82 vacancies, 94 applicants)
2. Horizon Primary (62 vacancies / 78 applicants)
3. Nan Hua (5 vacancies / 10 applicants)
4. Rulang (25 vacancies / 36 applicants)
5. Temasek (11 vacancies / 25 applicants)
- Schools 3 to 5 weren’t much of a surprise.
- Frontier and Horizon are examples of the ‘power’ of a MK school. There could well be a couple more joining them once day 2 numbers are updated.
- In terms of number of applicants, Frontier and Horizon are not unique among MK schools; most MK schools have between 50 to 90 applicants in Phase 2A2.
- If MOE doesn’t consider how to ‘balance’ MK status, in a couple of years time, the competition to enter a primary won’t be in Phase 2C but in Phase 2A2. There are a total of 58 current and future MK; including a couple of ‘hot’ schools coming online in the next few years (Alexandra, Gongshang, Jing Shan, Princess Elizabeth, Shuqun, South View, Temasek).
- People, i.e. those entering via Phase 2C, are upset about the ‘alumni’ status. While ‘alumni’ status does affect a few schools, the ‘damage’ is really limited to a few schools only (and every year, more or less the same). What people who are entering via Phase 2C should really, really, really (!!!) be worried about is MK schools at Phase 2A2. -
floppy\" post_id=\"2030718\" time=\"1626374938\" user_id=\"97579:
Do agree that the alumni status only affect a handful of school, but these also happen to be (surprise) popular schools where the stakes are high.<snipped to quote>
- People, i.e. those entering via Phase 2C, are upset about the 'alumni' status. While 'alumni' status does affect a few schools, the 'damage' is really limited to a few schools only (and every year, more or less the same). What people who are entering via Phase 2C should really, really, really (!!!) be worried about is MK schools at Phase 2A2.
Perhaps people are directing their frustration at 2A(1) folks because of the hereditary nature of this category? -
Stevenage\" post_id=\"2030722\" time=\"1626394018\" user_id=\"89746:
People are definitely right to be questioning about the hereditary nature of this category. IMHO, setting aside 40 places for Phase 2B and 2C is a step in the right direction to prevent some schools from being a closed system. However, people ought to understand that eliminating or removing this category is never, ever going to happen. I've heard that there are some tweaks coming soon, seemingly centred on reserving a couple more places for Phase 2C directly.
Do agree that the alumni status only affect a handful of school, but these also happen to be (surprise) popular schools where the stakes are high.floppy\" post_id=\"2030718\" time=\"1626374938\" user_id=\"97579:
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- People, i.e. those entering via Phase 2C, are upset about the 'alumni' status. While 'alumni' status does affect a few schools, the 'damage' is really limited to a few schools only (and every year, more or less the same). What people who are entering via Phase 2C should really, really, really (!!!) be worried about is MK schools at Phase 2A2.
Perhaps people are directing their frustration at 2A(1) folks because of the hereditary nature of this category?
Notwithstanding, my point is this:
I believe MK schools, which carry Phase 2A2 priority, will be causing a shock to the system in time to come (probably very soon). There will be a cascading effect affecting how people plan for Phase 2B, 2C and 2CS. The following could well be a future scenario:
Phase 2A1 - around 10 schools will be 'under pressured' in terms of places.
Phase 2A2 - add another 10 schools to the list above, and potentially another 25 to 50 schools from MK that will drastically reduce the number of places for the remaining phases (e.g. Springdale - 100 vacancies, 73 applicants).
Phase 2B - here's where some of the clan's built, religious affiliated schools come into play. Last year, there are about 30 schools with more than 30 applicants with SJIJ and NCPS topping the list with > 80 applicants.
Phase 2C - if you haven't been planning for an earlier phase, or didn't manage to get in via one of the earlier phases, you are down to looking at either balloting for this or balloting for that. There could be some schools that is 99.9% safe for SC but you would have to consider the distance and feasibility of getting there. If you are PR, I wish you good luck. -
Reading the signs from long ago till now, MOE doesn’t really care whether popular schools have balloting in 2C or not. As long as there is a 2CS school within the same planning division that has remaining vacancies to catch all those kids from the same (or neighboring) district, in their minds, there’s no real problem.
Kiasu parents’ headache is not MOE’s concern. -
Any reviews on Zhonghua Primary School and Cantonment Primary School? I live in Kallang area and we are PRs, looking for a school with Hindi during curriculum hours. Most schools ballotted last year, and looking at Phase 1 this year, seems more likely this year as well
If anybody's kids are currently studying in any of these schools, your feedback would be appreciated -
floppy\" post_id=\"2030734\" time=\"1626400547\" user_id=\"97579:
People are definitely right to be questioning about the hereditary nature of this category. IMHO, setting aside 40 places for Phase 2B and 2C is a step in the right direction to prevent some schools from being a closed system. However, people ought to understand that eliminating or removing this category is never, ever going to happen. I've heard that there are some tweaks coming soon, seemingly centred on reserving a couple more places for Phase 2C directly.
Do agree that the alumni status only affect a handful of school, but these also happen to be (surprise) popular schools where the stakes are high.Stevenage\" post_id=\"2030722\" time=\"1626394018\" user_id=\"89746:
[quote=floppy post_id=2030718 time=1626374938 user_id=97579] <snipped to quote>
- People, i.e. those entering via Phase 2C, are upset about the 'alumni' status. While 'alumni' status does affect a few schools, the 'damage' is really limited to a few schools only (and every year, more or less the same). What people who are entering via Phase 2C should really, really, really (!!!) be worried about is MK schools at Phase 2A2.
Perhaps people are directing their frustration at 2A(1) folks because of the hereditary nature of this category?
Notwithstanding, my point is this:
I believe MK schools, which carry Phase 2A2 priority, will be causing a shock to the system in time to come (probably very soon). There will be a cascading effect affecting how people plan for Phase 2B, 2C and 2CS. The following could well be a future scenario:
Phase 2A1 - around 10 schools will be 'under pressured' in terms of places.
Phase 2A2 - add another 10 schools to the list above, and potentially another 25 to 50 schools from MK that will drastically reduce the number of places for the remaining phases (e.g. Springdale - 100 vacancies, 73 applicants).
Phase 2B - here's where some of the clan's built, religious affiliated schools come into play. Last year, there are about 30 schools with more than 30 applicants with SJIJ and NCPS topping the list with > 80 applicants.
Phase 2C - if you haven't been planning for an earlier phase, or didn't manage to get in via one of the earlier phases, you are down to looking at either balloting for this or balloting for that. There could be some schools that is 99.9% safe for SC but you would have to consider the distance and feasibility of getting there. If you are PR, I wish you good luck.[/quote]The review is already in process, https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/speeches/20210303-moe-fy2021-committee-of-supply-debate-response-by-minister-for-education-lawrence-wong#p1-framework
2A2 will be a new fight zone if you give more to 2C and 2A2 will be crowded with MK. In the end, does it mean that change means all phase go for balloting? -
Terrydad\" post_id=\"2030753\" time=\"1626408643\" user_id=\"193857:
Sorry, please do not assume. Your statement \"rotating good teachers into neighbourhood schools\" seems to infer that neighbourhood schools originally do NOT have \"good\" teachers?
My eldest child went to a neighbourhood primary school. I was frantic during P1 registration too, as we didnt ballot into a very popular top school in our neighbourhood despite our effort.
However, our son made it to a top secondary school last year, with T score of over 275. He was not the only one from his school. During the tough P5-6 years, he had an experienced Maths teacher who had rotated in from a good school and helped him with tough Math problems. I think there is now a MOE habit of rotating good teachers into neighbourhood schools.
If only MOE would release more data about neighbourhood schools so we can all make more informed decisions.
Just my 2 cents to parents who are worried.
And nope, MOE does not rotate. The \"good\" teachers your child got entered the neighbourhood school through their own means - that is, applying to teach in the school just like applying for the same jobscope in another company. -
Terrydad\" post_id=\"2030767\" time=\"1626411661\" user_id=\"193857:
Glad to hear that your son's school had great teachers. If you don't mind, maybe you can share which school is that so that other parents can consider.😅
Excuuuuse me, not what I meant
To give a fuller, more complete picture, the primary school that my son went to had great teachers, in particular a Chinese teacher who went out of her way to coach the kids. She would provide extra time to both strong and weak kids. And she had been at the neighbourhood school for many years. But his Math teacher was exceptional, giving extra quizzes to teach difficult concepts, helping with lesson questions, and he told my wife and I that he rotated in from Rosyth. He also mentioned that teachers are sometimes rotated after a number of years. I dont know if this applies to career track senior teachers or MOE administrators who got rotated into teaching.
Going by my son's experience, perhaps there are great teachers in neighbourhood schools, just like in top schools. I know for a fact there are kids in his school who after PSLE went to RI, RGS and other similar schools.
Congratulations to your son too. Actually, parents have to play a part too. If teachers teach well but parents don't follow up at home, there is no use too.
Anyway, I shall not digress.
Hope every parent here will be successful in securing a place at your ideal primary school for your child. If not, it is not the end! Cheers!
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