Raffles Girls' Primary
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manorway\" post_id=\"2032975\" time=\"1628061394\" user_id=\"9303:
Because we have had quite a few kids from extended family, friends and colleagues who sent kids there. Some graduated, some still there. So didn't talk from far but tasted it. No expensive tuition that guarantee results because results vary like I said. My neice's 3 best friends all had private tuition for 4 subjects and parents spent over $1800 a month on tuition. Not a RGPS thing right? Common in SG in other schools too. But all parents we know with kids in the school agreed and those there now also agree when we met and chatted or exchanged in FB groups and forums that they had to do a lot of work. But this is not always bad. Some parents love it that they can be hands on. Some hate it. Again, not unique to RGPS. Which is why I said I don't get the appeal. My own 2 cents. No need to be upset. No offence taken and no one gets offended because I am not trying to persuade or dissuade. But a school is a school and it is just a school.[/quote]Your impression of the school is still base purely on hearsay and zero direct contact from within the school or teacher. For example, there are around 250+ students per cohort, and your extended family, niece friend etc may just represent 1% of the cohort sampling size. It is as good as saying ACS is a billionaire school because a few kids came from billionaire families. Furthermore, what you just say can easily apply to all popular primary schools in Singapore. Try Henry Park, NYPS, ACS, MGS, Tao Nan CHS etc.Veyron\" post_id=\"2032973\" time=\"1628060920\" user_id=\"30663:
[quote=manorway post_id=2032970 time=1628060287 user_id=9303]
Spot on!! And even amongst those who go to same tuition centres, the biggest factor that can explain the results is having hands on parents who know how to teach.
A lot of RGPS kids have expensive tuition from Primary 1 or even earlier + hands on parents. Teachers in RGPS expect parents to do a lot of work.
a) Can you give us example of expensive tuition which guarantee results?
b) How do you know many kids from RGPS goes to tjese expensive tuition as compared to another school?
b) How do you know teachers in RGPS expects parents to do \"alot\" of work?
Like I said before, whether a grape is sour or sweet, it's better to taste it for yourself instead of talking about it from afar.
Perhaps you can share with us which school in Singapore really impress upon you with a strong culture of no tuition but excellent academic results? -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2032968\" time=\"1628059612\" user_id=\"2964:
I have no comments about the tutored / non-tutored thing.
The appeal is probably the brand. And I think rgps is one of the branded schools that is easier to get in. Therefore many people just go for it. The other branded schools are harder for 2C. So if one is looking for brand, and he looks at sc, mg, sn, ny, rg….. rg would the one to try for.manorway\" post_id=\"2032923\" time=\"1628046322\" user_id=\"9303:
Actually I really don't get the appeal of RGPS. There is no affiliation and just a girls school. Being a GEP centre does not increase one's chance of being in GEP. In RGPS, most girls are heavily tutored and go enrichment centres. So we cannot say the sterling results is due to the school's effective teaching too.
The thing about heavily tutored + good results vs heavily tutored + not so good results, has little to do with the school. It would be the tuition centers that they go to.
Also, nobody really has the stats on their non gep PSLE results vs other schools mainstream results right? :siam: think i read in this thread some time ago that their mainstream normally go to Crescent and St Margs. Nothing wrong with these schools though…
Based on brand (which I assumed to be a GEP / SAP school thing), it's probably one of the easiest to get in. Most years, SC < 1km would get in safely, whereas for other GEP and SAP schools, you are really only getting a ticket to ballot < 1km. Getting in without losing a lot of hair would have been a big appeal in itself.
In terms of results, based on the last known (verifiable) PSLE results from circa 2012 to 2014, RGPS has about 91% eligible for express (t-score > 200). That number is more-or-less in line with TNS (92%) and better than HPPS (86%), Rosyth (83%) and SHPS (77%). While I doubt that > 40% from RGPS are scoring 250 & above, as that would have been way above the averages of TNS and HPPS (33%) and really in the region of NYPS (allegedly, > 45%), I believe that majority of the school's students are doing better than the national average and could qualify for schools like CGS, SMSS etc. -
floppy\" post_id=\"2032987\" time=\"1628064691\" user_id=\"97579:
I have no comments about the tutored / non-tutored thing.
The appeal is probably the brand. And I think rgps is one of the branded schools that is easier to get in. Therefore many people just go for it. The other branded schools are harder for 2C. So if one is looking for brand, and he looks at sc, mg, sn, ny, rg….. rg would the one to try for.MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2032968\" time=\"1628059612\" user_id=\"2964:
[quote=manorway post_id=2032923 time=1628046322 user_id=9303]Actually I really don't get the appeal of RGPS. There is no affiliation and just a girls school. Being a GEP centre does not increase one's chance of being in GEP. In RGPS, most girls are heavily tutored and go enrichment centres. So we cannot say the sterling results is due to the school's effective teaching too.
The thing about heavily tutored + good results vs heavily tutored + not so good results, has little to do with the school. It would be the tuition centers that they go to.
Also, nobody really has the stats on their non gep PSLE results vs other schools mainstream results right? :siam: think i read in this thread some time ago that their mainstream normally go to Crescent and St Margs. Nothing wrong with these schools though…
Based on brand (which I assumed to be a GEP / SAP school thing), it's probably one of the easiest to get in. Most years, SC < 1km would get in safely, whereas for other GEP and SAP schools, you are really only getting a ticket to ballot < 1km. Getting in without losing a lot of hair would have been a big appeal in itself.
In terms of results, based on the last known (verifiable) PSLE results from circa 2012 to 2014, RGPS has about 91% eligible for express (> 200). That number is more-or-less in line with TNS (92%) and better than HPPS (86%), Rosyth (83%) and SHPS (77%). While I doubt that > 40% from RGPS are scoring 250 & above, as that would have been way above the averages of TNS and HPPS (33%) and really in the region of NYPS (allegedly, > 45%), I believe that majority of the school's students are doing way better than the national average and qualifying for schools like CGS etc.[/quote]The percentage of RGPS students scoring above 250+ in 2019 is around 45%, for 2020 it should be more or less the same. Perhaps RGPS parents can verify this. -
Which school has strong culture of no tuition but produce strong results? None! Lol 😂 Where got?
Which is why I said it is not really because of the school. -
floppy\" post_id=\"2032987\" time=\"1628064691\" user_id=\"97579:
I have no comments about the tutored / non-tutored thing.
The appeal is probably the brand. And I think rgps is one of the branded schools that is easier to get in. Therefore many people just go for it. The other branded schools are harder for 2C. So if one is looking for brand, and he looks at sc, mg, sn, ny, rg….. rg would the one to try for.MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2032968\" time=\"1628059612\" user_id=\"2964:
[quote=manorway post_id=2032923 time=1628046322 user_id=9303]Actually I really don't get the appeal of RGPS. There is no affiliation and just a girls school. Being a GEP centre does not increase one's chance of being in GEP. In RGPS, most girls are heavily tutored and go enrichment centres. So we cannot say the sterling results is due to the school's effective teaching too.
The thing about heavily tutored + good results vs heavily tutored + not so good results, has little to do with the school. It would be the tuition centers that they go to.
Also, nobody really has the stats on their non gep PSLE results vs other schools mainstream results right? :siam: think i read in this thread some time ago that their mainstream normally go to Crescent and St Margs. Nothing wrong with these schools though…
Based on brand (which I assumed to be a GEP / SAP school thing), it's probably one of the easiest to get in. Most years, SC < 1km would get in safely, whereas for other GEP and SAP schools, you are really only getting a ticket to ballot < 1km. Getting in without losing a lot of hair would have been a big appeal in itself.
In terms of results, based on the last known (verifiable) PSLE results from circa 2012 to 2014, RGPS has about 91% eligible for express (> 200). That number is more-or-less in line with TNS (92%) and better than HPPS (86%), Rosyth (83%) and SHPS (77%). While I doubt that > 40% from RGPS are scoring 250 & above, as that would have been way above the averages of TNS and HPPS (33%) and really in the region of NYPS (allegedly, > 45%), I believe that majority of the school's students are doing way better than the national average and qualifying for schools like CGS etc.[/quote]The percentage of RGPS students scoring above 250+
2017 is around 50%.
2019 is around 45%,
2020 it should be more or less the same.
Perhaps RGPS parents can verify this. -
Those numbers include GEP kids. Verified in other threads before.
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Veyron\" post_id=\"2032991\" time=\"1628065727\" user_id=\"30663:
Err… since you listed it, I would have assumed you would be able to verify it?
The percentage of RGPS students scoring above 250+
2017 is around 50%.
2019 is around 45%,
2020 it should be more or less the same.
Perhaps RGPS parents can verify this. -
manorway\" post_id=\"2032992\" time=\"1628065995\" user_id=\"9303:
TBF, TNS, HPPS etc numbers do not break down by GEP / non-GEP as well. Their numbers, over the years, haven’t really moved much.
Those numbers include GEP kids. Verified in other threads before.
If those are indeed RGPS recent numbers, it means they have really improved leaps and bounds (performance wise) since 2012 and may even be better than NYPS :shock: -
manorway\" post_id=\"2032990\" time=\"1628065657\" user_id=\"9303:
Since you say RGPS only rely on \"expensive\" tuition to achieve good academic result, not because of the teachers or the school. Then I am sure you must know of some other schools that impress upon you with their less tuition and good result policy.
Which school has strong culture of no tuition but produce strong results? None! Lol 😂 Where got?
Which is why I said it is not really because of the school.
How about give us some examples of such schools and those RGPS \"expensive tuition centers\" you were saying. -
I think one recent year the number for RGPS was 38%. I followed it closely for a few years because of Niece.
Is it because RGPS improve or more people invest $ in tuition is hard to say.
But if a school expects parents to do more (check work, revise) etc right from the start, then parents who cannot handle the extra work will hire tutors earlier.
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