Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2033479\" time=\"1628302477\" user_id=\"28674:
I know I sound callous, but seriously, people die every day. And the old and vulnerable are more likely to die, whether of Covid or something else. People die in car accidents, in fires, in workplace accidents, etc. despite all the rules that govern such activities, but we don't expect to reduce them to zero. We cannot expect to prevent all deaths.
Just 2 weeks ago, OYK said we must return to phase 2 HA to protect the old and vulnerable from DYING!!lee_yl\" post_id=\"2033472\" time=\"1628301691\" user_id=\"17023:
[quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2033466 time=1628298148 user_id=43981]
From what I read higher cases and death will be expected.
Now he said after National Day, we will start to open up and let’s be mentally prepared to see higher cases and DEATH RATES WILL GO UP. That’s why earlier DH said SG is schizophrenic.
DH asked me rhetorically, you want to 病死 or 饿死, please choose one.
It is a tough battle.
I agree with your husband.[/quote]Got one news either last week or two weeks ago stated the suicide rate among seniors spiked significantly last year. Keeping them alive but not giving them a life worth living is worse actually. The mental and social cost of prolonged kiasi Covid policies I think are far greater.
Anyway, since we are going down the endemic route, I am mentally prepared that eventually me or my kids might contract Covid. But I guess with the vaccination the impact should be negligible. -
Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2033487\" time=\"1628303884\" user_id=\"38907:
I agree.
Anyway, since we are going down the endemic route, I am mentally prepared that eventually me or my kids might contract Covid. But I guess with the vaccination the impact should be negligible. -
Get covid assumed to have 270 days antibodies right if based on the current I read if not wrong…to vacc ex covid patient if more than 270days…
So can delay 3rd dose, if one day needed probably. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2033481\" time=\"1628302662\" user_id=\"43981:
Yalor..that's why I told myself must be flexible..just received my 2nd jab then all the news make me so worry till I literally broke down. Cannot la..must take care own health. Whatever comes think of the other side of logic to convince ownself
Just 2 weeks ago, OYK said we must return to phase 2 HA to protect the old and vulnerable from DYING!!lee_yl\" post_id=\"2033472\" time=\"1628301691\" user_id=\"17023:
[quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2033466 time=1628298148 user_id=43981]
From what I read higher cases and death will be expected.
Now he said after National Day, we will start to open up and let’s be mentally prepared to see higher cases and DEATH RATES WILL GO UP. That’s why earlier DH said SG is schizophrenic.
DH asked me rhetorically, you want to 病死 or 饿死, please choose one. It is a tough battle.
On the economy and health I don't think go same direction ao what's important is the risk benefits analysis again ba.
But I do have another concern tho, if some countries don't accept our direction then longer quarantine?? Let's see arh.[/quote]Most of the major countries like UK and US are already going down the endemic route and probably going to set up quarantine free travels. Third world countries around us like Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are probably going to do the same also because there is no way they could pursue zero case strategy. Probably only China, Australia, and New Zealand are still anal on preventing infection, but I guess the government here is making a calculated decision that the economic gain from opening up to other endemic countries would enough to offset the loss from those more kiasi countries. -
I think not very nice to say people kiasi ba. Why don’t we see these countries maybe foreseeing consequences that the other extreme side dont see? Or maybe they care for the people?
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The issue is our neighbouring countries may not be as ready as us to go on the endemic route.
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2033492\" time=\"1628304390\" user_id=\"14025:
By now, after the Fishery Port incident, borders shld be further tightened together with pre-travel testing & arrival testing, and our nation closing to >70-80% vaccination shld be quite safe moving towards endemic opening of borders for trade & travel, I wld expect. We will see abit more covid infection but seems like our hospital resources are preparing for such contingency. My concern wld be for those with compromised health conditions & vulnerable elderly. So whilst some of us are ready for go-get travel, we might wanna be extra careful with bringing our elderly along.
The issue is our neighbouring countries may not be as ready as us to go on the endemic route.
My frd in Austria was taking weekend travels to Croatia entrusting her restaurant & bar business to their staff & planning to bring their elderly to Italy later this month & visit ano frd of our coming Sept. Will see how Europe travels pans out. Seems like the Europeans are determined to revive their travel industry to kick-off economic recovery. I’m just left with envy but measured feeling at the same time.
MIL wish to visit Japan, but with Japan’s high covid cases, I wld rather wait & see. Maybe the cases will fall dramatically after the Olympics? Again, if Japan hv not achieved majority of their own population vaccination, I’m not sure if we shld risk the travel plan to Japan as the Delta variant is too fast transmissible.
M’sia or Indo will be furthest fr our mind. We’re low risk fellas, so let others take the lead if they prefer, we don’t mind lagging behind in such circumstances. Better to be safe than load with need to scramble for medical flight repatriation. -
Actually now is it if we go out from Spore, come back and get covid within certain period, we need take care of the hospitalisation exp?
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Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2033487\" time=\"1628303884\" user_id=\"38907:
For Delta variant lah, if few months later a new variant enters SG, how would it be like, nobody knows. We don’t have Delta Plus here yet.
Anyway, since we are going down the endemic route, I am mentally prepared that eventually me or my kids might contract Covid. But I guess with the vaccination the impact should be negligible.
When we see our first Fully Vaccinated patient dies, will you be scared? I am not so worried for myself or my kids but more for my aged parents. -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2033492\" time=\"1628304390\" user_id=\"14025:
If anything, they will go the endemic route well before Singapore would be prepared to! Almost no other country has as high vaccination rate as Singapore, but several are already going the endemic route. UK and US have already relaxed so many measures, for eg. And for economic reasons, I am fairly sure that our neighbours will do the same. They can't afford to be as conservative as Singapore (note: I did not say \"kiasi\").
The issue is our neighbouring countries may not be as ready as us to go on the endemic route.
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