Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

[sharonkhoo]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2033523\" time=\"1628316891\" user_id=\"17023:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2033521\" time=\"1628316494\" user_id=\"43981:

Seriously I don't think our family can be so let down our guard go overseas for leisure travel at least for next few months lor. Travel to us will be to see family members only.

We won’t travel for at least the next 2 years.

DH says a lot of viruses will keep mutating until it is able to coexist with the human hosts or dies off eventually. If the Spanish Flu experience offers any valid lesson, maybe by next year DEC, Covid will just vanish into the thin air….

Well, let's hope there isn't a Covid-22 or something else...

[zeit.033699]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2033533\" time=\"1628324372\" user_id=\"13281:

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2033538\" time=\"1628325186\" user_id=\"188234:[quote=SG_KP1 post_id=2033538 time=1628325186 user_id=188234]I was hoping to travel this Nov-Dec holiday but I think at this point no hope even if some restrictions are eased (i.e. even if can will likely decline the opportunity). Based on scheduling, probably Nov-Dec 2022 at the earliest now.

I was also travelling with kids ~3x per year pre-COVID, but don't miss it too much. Just spend time together here instead. I do hope they (kids) can travel for school purpose soon...

Same here; also 3-4x annually with 1 long haul at year-end. Sometimes I think the situation is not so dire in those developed countries with high vaccination rate. My friends & relatives living in those developed countries that have put SG on green list, white list and Level 1 list, are all fully vaccinated with the same mRNA vaccines. They are going about their daily business like us here and told me it's not so jialat on the ground in reality. No one seems to tell me they are living in confinement or panic leh. They just take care by donning their masks when commuting. I suppose it's partly because their lands are vast and less densely populated than SG, so the cases/sqkm don't seem so high.

If we ever caught it, then hopefully we just need to serve out the MTF-''promised'' 7-day home quarantine when we come back. If there are outbound group tours that follow a controlled itinerary, I may consider joining one, though I understand that if one tour member kena, the whole coach will kena too! Hmm, maybe I should stick to F&E so I don't have to be 'dragged down' by someone not from my family!


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But I'm ok if we can't travel also. I notice there are many new places I've not visited before in Singapore! So many new restaurants and shops have opened.

[Dreamaurora]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2033520\" time=\"1628315956\" user_id=\"17023:

I find it kind of contradiction. OYK said be mentally prepared that daily cases and death rates WILL go up. So even if SHN free, would anyone want to risk his life to visit SG whose cases are inching up on a daily basis? Not likely right?

It’s like now, even if I were to offer you a free air-ticket to India/China for holidays, SHN free, would you want?

Another question, as we see more cases, will MORE folks here be put on QO?? Will Singaporeans be angry if we need to serve 14 day QO or LOA but tourists come in with no need 14 days SHN?

As long the number of infections are reasonable and similar to typical flu (like 100-200 a day) I think it should be relatively safe to visit a country. I think because the number of infections are relatively low in Singapore and most of us are most likely not to know personally someone who has contracted Covid and recovered, it is easy to be paranoid. So far reports from US and UK seem to confirm that though the vaccines do not prevent infection completely, they do work in mitigating the symptoms significantly, so I have faith that even if I contracted Covid, it would be inconsequential.

[pirate]

So can we stop reporting how many Covid-19 cases we have everyday? Do away with the SHN,

quarantines and ring-fencing too. Whoever heard of all these things for flu? In fact, don’t even bother reporting how many people are critically ill or died from Covid-19. We don’t do that for flu either.

[MrsKiasu]

There should be alot of effort put in in order for daily numbers to be within that range, I guess.

[Zeal mummy]

pirate\" post_id=\"2033563\" time=\"1628352516\" user_id=\"66252:

So can we stop reporting how many Covid-19 cases we have everyday? Do away with the SHN,
quarantines and ring-fencing too. Whoever heard of all these things for flu? In fact, don't even bother reporting how many people are critically ill or died from Covid-19. We don't do that for flu either.

It is not flu.

[Zeal mummy]

I feel that it’s discrimination to socially separate the vaccinated from the unvaccinated… causing social distress. Could we have approached this differently? With more empathy?

[pirate]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2033565\" time=\"1628355324\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2033565 time=1628355324 user_id=58173]

pirate\" post_id=\"2033563\" time=\"1628352516\" user_id=\"66252:

So can we stop reporting how many Covid-19 cases we have everyday? Do away with the SHN,
quarantines and ring-fencing too. Whoever heard of all these things for flu? In fact, don't even bother reporting how many people are critically ill or died from Covid-19. We don't do that for flu either.

It is not flu.[/quote]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/experts-time-for-singapore-to-firm-up-covid-19-exit-strategy

Tell that to these professors who say flu used to kill more than 500 people a year in Singapore.

[Zeal mummy]

pirate\" post_id=\"2033580\" time=\"1628360198\" user_id=\"66252:

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2033565\" time=\"1628355324\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2033565 time=1628355324 user_id=58173]

So can we stop reporting how many Covid-19 cases we have everyday? Do away with the SHN,
quarantines and ring-fencing too. Whoever heard of all these things for flu? In fact, don't even bother reporting how many people are critically ill or died from Covid-19. We don't do that for flu either.

It is not flu.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/experts-time-for-singapore-to-firm-up-covid-19-exit-strategy

Tell that to these professors who say flu used to kill more than 500 people a year in Singapore.[/quote]Strangely I kept seeing contradictory reports. The number of deaths this week is rather alarming.

[sharonkhoo]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2033582\" time=\"1628361449\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2033582 time=1628361449 user_id=58173]

pirate\" post_id=\"2033580\" time=\"1628360198\" user_id=\"66252:

[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2033565 time=1628355324 user_id=58173]

It is not flu.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/experts-time-for-singapore-to-firm-up-covid-19-exit-strategy

Tell that to these professors who say flu used to kill more than 500 people a year in Singapore.[/quote]

Strangely I kept seeing contradictory reports. The number of deaths this week is rather alarming.[/quote]You have to look at the underlying causes, not just at the numbers alone. The recent death rate is the result of the spread of cases recently in markets where more elderly contracted the disease. Unfortunately, the elderly unvaccinated with underlying diseases are the ones most likely to die of Covid. If the spike had been in the dormitories (mainly younger, healthier, vaccinated men) or in some other venue with younger, healthier, vaccinated people, the mortality rate would not be so high. Nothing can be done about age, and (in the short term) about underlying health conditions, but vaccination is more easily achievable.