2021 P1 Registration Exercise for 2022 In-take

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Thanks for the view. Seem like that's the only way out.
Just call MTS, 14x are SC<1KM. Chances is really slim. Better get prepare for 2CS registration.

Err... I thought you would have know before you apply to MTS. It's not like this year was exceptional.

14x are SC<1KM... so there are more than 1 blur person who applied to MTS. I really overestimated our SC and PR :slapshead:

I am applying for Rivervale (just opp Meetoh) and by day 2 it is 126 applied... I already think 90-95% should be <1km... and i think a most a few more will apply... for some reason, 10 more applied... looking at the reply... i think most probably at least 130 <1km need to ballot...[/quote]Rivervale is one of those schools that has balloted since 2006 (that's as far as the KSP database goes). At least 130 out of 136 applicants being < 1km is a reasonable assumption.

As per my previous post, Sengkang is one of those places where it makes sense to try for a popular school <1km, come what may. North Spring and Seng Kang (both likely to be within 1km) would have more than enough places to take care of the Rivervale excess. The other alternative is Compassvale, but it isn't really that significantly different from North Spring or Seng Kang, so it wouldn't matter to most Rivervale applicants if they miss out.

[Imp75]

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Kheng Cheng School
127 for 94
Ballot for SC < 1km
That’s definitely the first wow from me. Quite a reversal of fortune. I think the development of Toa Payoh West was being overlooked

Another wow goes to St. Margaret's.
110 for 91
BUT ballot for SC > 2km
Quite a turnaround considering:
2020 was 98 for 97, ballot for PR > 2km
2019 was 82 for 108
2018 was 99 for 90, ballot for PR > 2km

Only 1 data point but could it be pointing to SC taking a closer look at SMPS now that it's shift to the renovated and upgraded campus at Wilkie Road is confirmed for Jan 2024?
I do believe next year and 2023 should see keener competition among SC as SMPS is probably one of the few schools (with affiliation to a good secondary school) that's easier to get into for SC. Plus, everyone loves new and shiny things.

Is SMPS using temp address for measuring distance or permanent address? I don't recall many housing near the permanent site. And to those who hv chosen SMPS now, be prepared for long traffic jam along the single lane road to the sch every morning, it could take 30min on that stretch of road alone.

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[quote=floppy post_id=2034162 time=1628765936 user_id=97579]Kheng Cheng School
127 for 94
Ballot for SC < 1km
That’s definitely the first wow from me. Quite a reversal of fortune. I think the development of Toa Payoh West was being overlooked

Another wow goes to St. Margaret's.
110 for 91
BUT ballot for SC > 2km
Quite a turnaround considering:
2020 was 98 for 97, ballot for PR > 2km
2019 was 82 for 108
2018 was 99 for 90, ballot for PR > 2km

Only 1 data point but could it be pointing to SC taking a closer look at SMPS now that it's shift to the renovated and upgraded campus at Wilkie Road is confirmed for Jan 2024?
I do believe next year and 2023 should see keener competition among SC as SMPS is probably one of the few schools (with affiliation to a good secondary school) that's easier to get into for SC. Plus, everyone loves new and shiny things.

Is SMPS using temp address for measuring distance or permanent address? I don't recall many housing near the permanent site. And to those who hv chosen SMPS now, be prepared for long traffic jam along the single lane road to the sch every morning, it could take 30min on that stretch of road alone.[/quote]MOE always uses the perm address (in this case Wilkie Road) for calculation.

There aren't many high density housing near the perm site, hence, it will be difficult for SMPS to see balloting within 1km, unless their alumni or church affiliated applicants come in big numbers. 1-2km is possible albeit challenging. There needs to be sufficient interest but the Newton / Novena / Farrer Park people have a lot of bright, shiny options to choose from.

[MerlionInGermany]

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Rivervale is one of those schools that has balloted since 2006 (that's as far as the KSP database goes). At least 130 out of 136 applicants being < 1km is a reasonable assumption.

So what is the appeal of Rivervale pri? Isnt it just another neighbourhood pri sch?

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Err... I thought you would have know before you apply to MTS. It's not like this year was exceptional.

14x are SC<1KM... so there are more than 1 blur person who applied to MTS. I really overestimated our SC and PR :slapshead:

I am applying for Rivervale (just opp Meetoh) and by day 2 it is 126 applied... I already think 90-95% should be <1km... and i think a most a few more will apply... for some reason, 10 more applied... looking at the reply... i think most probably at least 130 <1km need to ballot...

Rivervale is one of those schools that has balloted since 2006 (that's as far as the KSP database goes). At least 130 out of 136 applicants being < 1km is a reasonable assumption.

As per my previous post, Sengkang is one of those places where it makes sense to try for a popular school <1km, come what may. North Spring and Seng Kang (both likely to be within 1km) would have more than enough places to take care of the Rivervale excess. The other alternative is Compassvale, but it isn't really that significantly different from North Spring or Seng Kang, so it wouldn't matter to most Rivervale applicants if they miss out.[/quote]This year is quite a funny year, i was considering Compassvale too and for last year, it has less application but some how last year (if i am not wrong) it has ballot <1km but this year there are more but the balloting is 1-2km... I agree with you that we do have good backup option around the area.

[Imp75]

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Another wow goes to St. Margaret's.
110 for 91
BUT ballot for SC > 2km
Quite a turnaround considering:
2020 was 98 for 97, ballot for PR > 2km
2019 was 82 for 108
2018 was 99 for 90, ballot for PR > 2km

Only 1 data point but could it be pointing to SC taking a closer look at SMPS now that it's shift to the renovated and upgraded campus at Wilkie Road is confirmed for Jan 2024?
I do believe next year and 2023 should see keener competition among SC as SMPS is probably one of the few schools (with affiliation to a good secondary school) that's easier to get into for SC. Plus, everyone loves new and shiny things.

Is SMPS using temp address for measuring distance or permanent address? I don't recall many housing near the permanent site. And to those who hv chosen SMPS now, be prepared for long traffic jam along the single lane road to the sch every morning, it could take 30min on that stretch of road alone.

MOE always uses the perm address (in this case Wilkie Road) for calculation.

There aren't many high density housing near the perm site, hence, it will be difficult for SMPS to see balloting within 1km, unless their alumni or church affiliated applicants come in big numbers. 1-2km is possible albeit challenging. There needs to be sufficient interest but the Newton / Novena / Farrer Park people have a lot of bright, shiny options to choose from.[/quote]Considering SMSS is a 24x school and affiliated pri sch can get in at 200 and above, I think its a good deal.

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Rivervale is one of those schools that has balloted since 2006 (that's as far as the KSP database goes). At least 130 out of 136 applicants being < 1km is a reasonable assumption.

So what is the appeal of Rivervale pri? Isnt it just another neighbourhood pri sch?

Honestly? IDK.

I am just saying it makes sense to chiong for a popular school, I don’t necessarily understand why it’s popular :rotflmao:

If someone can share why some schools in the west like Princess E and Southview are so popular, I’m all ears.

[zac's mum]

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Err... I thought you would have know before you apply to MTS. It's not like this year was exceptional.

14x are SC<1KM... so there are more than 1 blur person who applied to MTS. I really overestimated our SC and PR :slapshead:

I think this is what inevitably happens when MOE insists on:
- not publishing the distance breakdowns
- not providing daily or real-time updates
- wiping out the balloting category from its website immediately after balloting is over in each phase.
- not providing any historical data anywhere

Not every parent comes to KSP to do their research. I know plenty of parents who are simply too busy with life (and looking after kids) to research about schools. They just blur blur register to any school near their home. If it happens to be a popular one then oops.

I can understand why some schools end up with 500% to 600% over the limit, cos everyone wants to apply for the one < 1km. In some cases, it actually makes sense (e.g. Yishun, Punggol, Sengkang) cos the remaining options aren't really that different from the other 'safe' Phase 2C choices. However, applying to a popular school that's 1-2km is really more than just being 'blur-blur' lor.

MOE has emphasised the 'distance priority' in almost all their publications and on almost all pages of their P1 registration website. Even without the distance breakdown, once you see the number of applicants more than double the number of vacancy on Day 1 or Day 2, alarm bells should be ringing LOUD LOUD. This isn't any school that has caught people by surprise, e.g. KCS this year, RGPS last year. Real-time update or distance breakdown is not going to help the most stubborn or the most ignorant or the too busy with life type.[/quote]Quite likely they didn’t even bother to check the number of applicants before they went to the online form. I doubt the online form has any indication of how many applicants already applied or any reminders that 1-2km would be wasting their chance entirely if <1km ballots.

There are really people who hear from aunties at the market that MTS and NCPS are the best schools in the NE area, so just apply there, even if they have zero chance.

But it doesn’t matter anyway, they are perfectly ok (and MOE is perfectly happy) to get a 2CS (or post-2CS) school in the NE in the end.

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Is SMPS using temp address for measuring distance or permanent address? I don't recall many housing near the permanent site. And to those who hv chosen SMPS now, be prepared for long traffic jam along the single lane road to the sch every morning, it could take 30min on that stretch of road alone.

MOE always uses the perm address (in this case Wilkie Road) for calculation.

There aren't many high density housing near the perm site, hence, it will be difficult for SMPS to see balloting within 1km, unless their alumni or church affiliated applicants come in big numbers. 1-2km is possible albeit challenging. There needs to be sufficient interest but the Newton / Novena / Farrer Park people have a lot of bright, shiny options to choose from.

Considering SMSS is a 24x school and affiliated pri sch can get in at 200 and above, I think its a good deal.[/quote]I think it is, but I can understand why people may have chosen to overlook it when it’s in a temp site.

Could have added that SMSS is also an autonomous school and it is close to 180 years old, ie the oldest girls school in SEA (not just Singapore). The school has all the ingredients in place to drive towards being a top tier school if it wants to, but I suspect it may not be in sync with their ethos.

[zac's mum]

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MOE always uses the perm address (in this case Wilkie Road) for calculation.

There aren't many high density housing near the perm site, hence, it will be difficult for SMPS to see balloting within 1km, unless their alumni or church affiliated applicants come in big numbers. 1-2km is possible albeit challenging. There needs to be sufficient interest but the Newton / Novena / Farrer Park people have a lot of bright, shiny options to choose from.

Considering SMSS is a 24x school and affiliated pri sch can get in at 200 and above, I think its a good deal.

I think it is, but I can understand why people may have chosen to overlook it when it’s in a temp site.

Could have added that SMSS is also an autonomous school and it is close to 180 years old, ie the oldest girls school in SEA (not just Singapore). The school has all the ingredients in place to drive towards being a top tier school if it wants to, but I suspect it may not be in sync with their ethos.[/quote]I personally think SMSS is a worthy school too. It’s just unfortunately suffering from 2nd class syndrome simply because it’s not an IP school. For non-SAP in the centre of SG, most girls would pick RGS, Cedar, NJC…and then if can’t get IP/prefer OP, choose Crescent Girls.

I think it’s similar to how Nan Hua High is overlooked by many in the West, who hanker after RVHS for the IP status, or NUS High.