Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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Estéema\" post_id=\"2037519\" time=\"1631361925\" user_id=\"66413:
:lol:
Don’t forget im sitting next to u hor. We keep 1m company. 😉
Was looking at the hospitalization chart..
For past 1 wk..
Grp 61-70 been doing a great job..almost keep going down.
Grp 70+ hmm.. has reclaimed its medal from Grp 40-60yo yesterday... maybe mature estate(s)?
The youngest group has broke the 100marks past 2 days..pls take extra care kids! -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2033626\" time=\"1628402831\" user_id=\"17023:
Retrieved a post I made on 8th August when Govt announced that all unvaccinated folks can only eat in hawker centres or coffeeshops.
This year alone, we have seen quite a number of Covid-19 HAWKER CENTRE CLUSTERS, starting with the Bukit Merah View cluster followed by the recent spate. So the assumptions that hawker centres are “well ventilated and outdoors” and are less susceptible to Covid virus may not hold true.
I think Foodcourts have fewer clusters than hawker centres? Maybe NEA should study deeper to uncover what are the driving forces behind these hawker centres clusters and how to resolve them. All along I feel unsafe eating at hawker centres compared to restaurants. I can have the whole table in restaurants all to myself if I dine alone but at hawker centres, I was always asked if I could share table during peak hours.
If unvaccinated folks can only dine at hawker centres then govt is pushing all the unvaccinated folks to gather at those hawker centres, my goodness!! And after a while, will hawkers and hawker assistants pull down their masks when the weather gets hot and humid during the day? Old folks at Jurong or Bukit Merah (regardless vac or not) will continue to visit their nearby hawker centres. I don’t think pushing all the unvaccinated ppl to gather at hawker centres is to protect the unvaccinated ppl, it’s like ushering them to a death trap. Ticking time bomb.
The NCID expert who claims that hawker centres are safest for those non vaccinated to go to, probably has not dined in at hawker centres for very long. Chinatown wet market and hawker centres are among the dirtiest places I can find!
No wonder 127 seniors warded in hospitals after testing positive then I read that Chinatown Complex cluster is brewing!
If more seniors warded, get ready for HA3. No more dining in. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2037547\" time=\"1631403456\" user_id=\"43981:
Mrs KS,
:lol:Estéema\" post_id=\"2037519\" time=\"1631361925\" user_id=\"66413:
Don’t forget im sitting next to u hor. We keep 1m company. 😉
Was looking at the hospitalization chart..
For past 1 wk..
Grp 61-70 been doing a great job..almost keep going down.
Grp 70+ hmm.. has reclaimed its medal from Grp 40-60yo yesterday... maybe mature estate(s)?
The youngest group has broke the 100marks past 2 days..pls take extra care kids!
Yes, I’m concern how transmissible it has been & worry for those with pre-existing conditions & elderly and very young kids.
When doing grocery y’day, just cldnt get any feeling ppl are conscious with social distancing. Crowded as ever at VivoCity. Quickly get my grocery done & verbalized to hubby we shld try go to other outlets & bear with less selection as we’re bring bags over to MIL. Don’t want unknowingly pass unseen creatures of harm to her.
Curiously, my helper said she still hv lessons at the CC. Instructed her tt the recent numbers are high to be extra vigilant & careful n be back for lunch together. We’ve to bear it out next couple of weeks and stay home more so will buy a little extra meat next Tues whilst can rely on my garden for the various veggies & fruiting cucumbers, bittergourd, pumpkin, Brinjal & long beans besides my herb garden.
So hard to be back to bit of norlmacy, for bz to keep alive and jobs to stay, with this Delta at large. Can’t stay shut as a small country. Y’day, my frd had ppl messaging him to quickly help him get apartments as he needs to house workers coming in for a project. Ano young frd left for Germany for 3 months internship & she felt it was cool with the green lane as she didn’t hv to do PCR or quarantine as she’s vaccinated. So there’re still lots of bz flights going in/out.
Stay safe & safe sane. We watch the numbers. Hopefully don’t loose count. -
I usually go ntuc around 7am Sun. There is not much crowd and usually by 8am, i would be leaving the supermarket.
Besides continue to practise good hygiene, we just continue to live as normal as before. -
What do you expect when there are recalcitrant uncles and aunties gathering and line-dancing at Chinatown Complex and nearby all the time? From 2020 till 2021, still cannot obey the rules. With the Mid-Autumn Festival light-up, more pp will go to Chinatown.
https://www.8world.com/singapore/elderly-gathering-1482386
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20210712-1167944
https://www.xinjiapo.news/news/48120
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20200719-1070222
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200414-1045248
http://johor.chinapress.com.my/20200415/%E2%97%A4%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E5%90%AF%E5%8A%A8%E6%96%AD%E8%B7%AF%E5%99%A8%E2%97%A2-%E9%98%BF%E5%85%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%AE%B2%E4%B8%8D%E5%90%AC%EF%BC%81-%E8%81%9A%E9%9B%86%E7%89%9B%E8%BD%A6%E6%B0%B4/ -
zeit.\" post_id=\"2037580\" time=\"1631417705\" user_id=\"194295:
Policy makers no fault? We have had hawker centre clusters (few times!) before but keep repeating as the systemic causes were not identified and rectified. The old folks are the PG and MG whose votes matter a lot.
What do you expect when there are recalcitrant uncles and aunties gathering and line-dancing at Chinatown Complex and nearby all the time? From 2020 till 2021, still cannot obey the rules. With the Mid-Autumn Festival light-up, more pp will go to Chinatown.
https://www.8world.com/singapore/elderly-gathering-1482386
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20210712-1167944
https://www.xinjiapo.news/news/48120
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20200719-1070222
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200414-1045248
http://johor.chinapress.com.my/20200415/%E2%97%A4%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E5%90%AF%E5%8A%A8%E6%96%AD%E8%B7%AF%E5%99%A8%E2%97%A2-%E9%98%BF%E5%85%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%AE%B2%E4%B8%8D%E5%90%AC%EF%BC%81-%E8%81%9A%E9%9B%86%E7%89%9B%E8%BD%A6%E6%B0%B4/ -
Estéema\" post_id=\"2037568\" time=\"1631413668\" user_id=\"66413:
Mrs KS,
:lol:MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2037547\" time=\"1631403456\" user_id=\"43981:
[quote=Estéema post_id=2037519 time=1631361925 user_id=66413]
Don’t forget im sitting next to u hor. We keep 1m company. 😉
Was looking at the hospitalization chart..
For past 1 wk..
Grp 61-70 been doing a great job..almost keep going down.
Grp 70+ hmm.. has reclaimed its medal from Grp 40-60yo yesterday... maybe mature estate(s)?
The youngest group has broke the 100marks past 2 days..pls take extra care kids!
Yes, I’m concern how transmissible it has been & worry for those with pre-existing conditions & elderly and very young kids.
When doing grocery y’day, just cldnt get any feeling ppl are conscious with social distancing. Crowded as ever at VivoCity. Quickly get my grocery done & verbalized to hubby we shld try go to other outlets & bear with less selection as we’re bring bags over to MIL. Don’t want unknowingly pass unseen creatures of harm to her.
Curiously, my helper said she still hv lessons at the CC. Instructed her tt the recent numbers are high to be extra vigilant & careful n be back for lunch together. We’ve to bear it out next couple of weeks and stay home more so will buy a little extra meat next Tues whilst can rely on my garden for the various veggies & fruiting cucumbers, bittergourd, pumpkin, Brinjal & long beans besides my herb garden.
So hard to be back to bit of norlmacy, for bz to keep alive and jobs to stay, with this Delta at large. Can’t stay shut as a small country. Y’day, my frd had ppl messaging him to quickly help him get apartments as he needs to house workers coming in for a project. Ano young frd left for Germany for 3 months internship & she felt it was cool with the green lane as she didn’t hv to do PCR or quarantine as she’s vaccinated. So there’re still lots of bz flights going in/out.
Stay safe & safe sane. We watch the numbers. Hopefully don’t loose count.[/quote]I couldn't imagine how happy to see own garden of veg. Lunch, asked dd to harvest 3 strands of spring onion, already so happy lol..will take note when go supermarkets, I think sometimes they sell chilli plant with chilli.
Yes, important not only keep safe but also sane. In time like this, can see lots more love from loved ones. Let's all not consumed by covid fatigue. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037584\" time=\"1631419071\" user_id=\"17023:
Definitely at fault. I'm still very baffled by the exponential increase here!
Policy makers no fault? We have had hawker centre clusters (few times!) before but keep repeating as the systemic causes were not identified and rectified. The old folks are the PG and MG whose votes matter a lot.zeit.\" post_id=\"2037580\" time=\"1631417705\" user_id=\"194295:
What do you expect when there are recalcitrant uncles and aunties gathering and line-dancing at Chinatown Complex and nearby all the time? From 2020 till 2021, still cannot obey the rules. With the Mid-Autumn Festival light-up, more pp will go to Chinatown.
https://www.8world.com/singapore/elderly-gathering-1482386
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20210712-1167944
https://www.xinjiapo.news/news/48120
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20200719-1070222
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200414-1045248
http://johor.chinapress.com.my/20200415/%E2%97%A4%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E5%90%AF%E5%8A%A8%E6%96%AD%E8%B7%AF%E5%99%A8%E2%97%A2-%E9%98%BF%E5%85%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%AE%B2%E4%B8%8D%E5%90%AC%EF%BC%81-%E8%81%9A%E9%9B%86%E7%89%9B%E8%BD%A6%E6%B0%B4/
As I've said twice b4, HK also has wet markets and some Food centres similar to ours. I used to eat at HK hawker centres. Sama sama crowded during office lunch hour.
Taipei has sheltered wet markets housed in exactly like our Chinatown Complex/Tekka/Geylang Serai/Albert double storey buildings, open-air market streets, open-air shophouse kopitiams and night markets too.
Mainland cities also have the same wet markets inside double-storey buildings or ground level, and I'd been to some of them.
How come we cannot control our outbreaks in such places？ Taiwan even copied us by implementing the odd-even last digit IC number to access the wet markets on alternate days.
Hong Kong![](\"https://i.imgur.com/zqCbMP6.jpg\")
https://i.imgur.com/zqCbMP6.jpg\">
![](\"https://i.imgur.com/AImCoa0.jpg\")
![](\"https://i.imgur.com/sFN2KqA.jpg\")
Shanghai![](\"https://i.imgur.com/9D5ZcJO.png\")
Taipei![](\"https://i.imgur.com/BBe4eKh.jpg\")
同样是以华人为主的地区和国家，同样的传统菜市场，同样的熟食中心！ Can MTF tell me what went wrong huh?! :scratchhead: :faint: :slapshead: -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037584\" time=\"1631419071\" user_id=\"17023:
I think a lot of them need to take responsibility for their own safety. The authorities can only do so much - they can't watch every one of them and remind them to wear their masks properly (the main problem, I believe), or crowd near other people, or talk to people while unmasked. If they close hawker centres and markets to the elderly, there will be even more hardship to the low-income elderly. The safest way to stop transmission to the elderly is to ban them from leaving their homes, and limit the no. of visitors very strictly (i.e. circuit breaker, but only for the elderly). But no-one wants that.
Policy makers no fault? We have had hawker centre clusters (few times!) before but keep repeating as the systemic causes were not identified and rectified. The old folks are the PG and MG whose votes matter a lot.zeit.\" post_id=\"2037580\" time=\"1631417705\" user_id=\"194295:
What do you expect when there are recalcitrant uncles and aunties gathering and line-dancing at Chinatown Complex and nearby all the time? From 2020 till 2021, still cannot obey the rules. With the Mid-Autumn Festival light-up, more pp will go to Chinatown.
https://www.8world.com/singapore/elderly-gathering-1482386
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20210712-1167944
https://www.xinjiapo.news/news/48120
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20200719-1070222
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200414-1045248
http://johor.chinapress.com.my/20200415/%E2%97%A4%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E5%90%AF%E5%8A%A8%E6%96%AD%E8%B7%AF%E5%99%A8%E2%97%A2-%E9%98%BF%E5%85%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%AE%B2%E4%B8%8D%E5%90%AC%EF%BC%81-%E8%81%9A%E9%9B%86%E7%89%9B%E8%BD%A6%E6%B0%B4/ -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2037600\" time=\"1631424825\" user_id=\"28674:
I think a lot of them need to take responsibility for their own safety. The authorities can only do so much - they can't watch every one of them and remind them to wear their masks properly (the main problem, I believe), or crowd near other people, or talk to people while unmasked. If they close hawker centres and markets to the elderly, there will be even more hardship to the low-income elderly. The safest way to stop transmission to the elderly is to ban them from leaving their homes, and limit the no. of visitors very strictly (i.e. circuit breaker, but only for the elderly). But no-one wants that.[/quote]Yes, but if we leave it to these people to take up their personal responsibility, then we will be entering HA3 very soon and it is gonna cause SG a lot of money! Better find an effective way to engage them to do the right thing while eliminating the systemic causes otherwise everyone will suffer the economic consequences.
Policy makers no fault? We have had hawker centre clusters (few times!) before but keep repeating as the systemic causes were not identified and rectified. The old folks are the PG and MG whose votes matter a lot.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037584\" time=\"1631419071\" user_id=\"17023:
[quote=zeit. post_id=2037580 time=1631417705 user_id=194295]What do you expect when there are recalcitrant uncles and aunties gathering and line-dancing at Chinatown Complex and nearby all the time? From 2020 till 2021, still cannot obey the rules. With the Mid-Autumn Festival light-up, more pp will go to Chinatown.
https://www.8world.com/singapore/elderly-gathering-1482386
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20210712-1167944
https://www.xinjiapo.news/news/48120
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/story20200719-1070222
https://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20200414-1045248
http://johor.chinapress.com.my/20200415/%E2%97%A4%E6%96%B0%E5%9B%BD%E5%90%AF%E5%8A%A8%E6%96%AD%E8%B7%AF%E5%99%A8%E2%97%A2-%E9%98%BF%E5%85%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%AE%B2%E4%B8%8D%E5%90%AC%EF%BC%81-%E8%81%9A%E9%9B%86%E7%89%9B%E8%BD%A6%E6%B0%B4/
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