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    All About Full-Time Maids

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    • starlight1968sgS Offline
      starlight1968sg
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      forestcadee\" post_id=\"2034480\" time=\"1629009503\" user_id=\"23508:

      Hi, may I know if employers are responsible for paying the renewal fee of passport for the domestic worker? Thanks.
      I dont remember reading this requirement in MOM website

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      • EstéemaE Offline
        Estéema
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        starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2034483\" time=\"1629010616\" user_id=\"14025:

        forestcadee\" post_id=\"2034480\" time=\"1629009503\" user_id=\"23508:

        Hi, may I know if employers are responsible for paying the renewal fee of passport for the domestic worker? Thanks.

        I dont remember reading this requirement in MOM website

        If I rmbr correctly, the pinos & their embassy wld request that eyers pay for the passport renewal fee, but there’s no requirement or obligations to pay on their behalf. The pinos will ‘fight’ for everything they think they shld be entitled to - extra public holidays in Philippines & they think they can by claiming they’re entities to it & one KSP member told me the agent in SG collaborated to get them the extra public holiday as off-days for them. They also try to pin YEARLY return holidays & paid flights.

        Just rmbr our local regulations under MOM :

        1. One return flight every contract, means every 2 years plus 14 days home leave (not paid)

        2. Once a week off-days but public holidays is up to Eyers

        3. Helpers pay for their own passport renewals (however, done eyers want to help out towards the renewal fee as it’s much cheaper back home). I usually ask them to do it during their home leave & I’ll pay for it when they return to SG. That’ll also depend on sufficiency of time. If I’m helping them pay for my own reasons, I’ll make it absolutely clear that not all eyers do that.

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        • forestcadeeF Offline
          forestcadee
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          Thank you starlight1968sg and Estéema.

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          • H Offline
            headhead
            last edited by

            Hi, anyone has any maid want to let go?

            Looking after 2 kids, don’t need cook, simple household chores.
            Willing to wait till December.
            Please contact me at 96889368.

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            • L Offline
              little Sprout
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              Dear Mummies,


              I want to send helper back to her country as she has very bad attitude and unable to finish general housework (mainly cleaning the house, without cooking). But I was informed by Maid agency that I can buy the air ticket for helper, but it’s up to the helper if she want to leave SG.

              Agency has tried to convince me to transfer the helper and sign the release paper. However, I think I should
              sent her back so that she won’t have the chance to go another family.

              Anyone knows where I can seek help from?
              I have called MOM, but there is no clear direction given. Mom just insisted that I should try to talk to helper and ask her to leave. There is no way to communicate with helper as she is currently in Agency and trying to ask the Agency to keep her in SG.

              Background of the helper: Myanmar nationality, transfer helper (work with me from June -Sep)
              Monthly salary: $700
              Agency paid: $3800 (June 2021)

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              • EstéemaE Offline
                Estéema
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                little Sprout\" post_id=\"2038486\" time=\"1631887691\" user_id=\"194948:[quote=\"little Sprout\" post_id=2038486 time=1631887691 user_id=194948]
                Dear Mummies,

                I want to send helper back to her country as she has very bad attitude and unable to finish general housework (mainly cleaning the house, without cooking). But I was informed by Maid agency that I can buy the air ticket for helper, but it's up to the helper if she want to leave SG.

                Agency has tried to convince me to transfer the helper and sign the release paper. However, I think I should
                sent her back so that she won't have the chance to go another family.

                Anyone knows where I can seek help from?
                I have called MOM, but there is no clear direction given. Mom just insisted that I should try to talk to helper and ask her to leave. There is no way to communicate with helper as she is currently in Agency and trying to ask the Agency to keep her in SG.

                Background of the helper: Myanmar nationality, transfer helper (work with me from June -Sep)
                Monthly salary: $700
                Agency paid: $3800 (June 2021)[/quote]
                Think you as the employer can gently inform her w/o getting all worked up, by indicating that you alr informed her of her poor performance & attitude towards you as eyer, hence you will cancel her WP, which then renders her status in SG as invalid for work. She’ll hv 30-days as a tourist passage but u don’t want her lingering coz ull still be responsible for ALL her expenses or medical/hospitalization.

                Once you cancel her WP, pls ensure u book her airticket home for repatriation which is yr required responsibility as eyer under MOM’s rules. I do not think I need to struggle with her if she wants to leave SG. If she’s happy to return here to work, she’ll surely find her way back thro agency or recommendations. I normally don’t hustle with such helper as they’ll not reason the way we do. And normally I keep very mum until all my paperwork are done - buy airticket, get her PCR done, ensure she has no access to young kids or elderlies when you break the news of her send off & str-away get her to pack all her belongings & drive str to airport. Pls ensure u retrieve her WP to return to MOM after I’ve cancelled her WP.

                If u don’t prefer to see her sobbing face or stories or even ‘sincere’ beggings, you can engage a runner to send her to airport. It is IMPT that u ensure she enters the Departure gate & she’s already onboard her flight. There were instances where helpers deliberately stay within departure hall refusing to board, thinking they’ll get a chance to stay in SG. The law don’t work in this manner unfortunately & u’ll be called upon to re-parchase ticket for next flight home. ICA will be involved the moment the flight manifest can’t tally coz she did not board. Make her departure neat so it doesn’t come back to haunt you.

                Sharing based on my own past experiences with helpers (Pinos & Indos though I had my 1st Indo helper with me past 6 years) with bad attitudes or trying to game for better/easier work/eyer or higher pay. Not everyone may agree with this approach but it’s an approach I think works fairly for the safety of my family when I had very young kids. Now my helpers are better. Last 8 years had 3 Christian Mynmar helpers.

                Edit to add :
                MOM may be in a flux to advise eyers to counsel helpers as many Sporean’s are strap for incoming helpers & transfer maids to reduce cost burdens. However, I similarly wld not want to pass on a helper with bad attitude as my conscience cannot clear if the help wreck havoc I ano fellow Sporean’s h’hold. Usually, they’ll learn to adjust to Sporean’s environment once they Ustand it’s not easy to get a job for livelihood. We must distinguish compassion fr misplaced compassion. If a helper can’t u’stand how a job is done but had tried to work hard & show effort in other areas, I would be most willing to transfer her to ano family retaining c her working in SG. That’s my thinking

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                • sky minecrafterS Offline
                  sky minecrafter
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                  Estéema\" post_id=\"2038494\" time=\"1631891840\" user_id=\"66413:
                  ...normally I keep very mum until all my paperwork are done - buy airticket, get her PCR done, ensure she has no access to young kids or elderlies when you break the news of her send off & str-away get her to pack all her belongings & drive str to airport.


                  ...If u don’t prefer to see her sobbing face or stories or even ‘sincere’ beggings, you can engage a runner to send her to airport. It is IMPT that u ensure she enters the Departure gate & she’s already onboard her flight...
                  Agree with Estéema

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                  • B Offline
                    buttons
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                    I have a maid that has been with me for 12 years. She is 54 years old this year. Next year, since my children are all going to secondary school, I have decided to stop her services. Moreover, there is no more space in the house for her to stay as it’s really not fair for both maid and children to be sharing.

                    I have spoken to my folks and they are willing to take her in for her to live and work for them. I searched MOM website and most of the information that I am seeking is for new maids. Can someone please give me advice/ opinion…
                    1. Can I still keep her under my name even though she does not work or stay with me? I know legally it’s not right, but the transfer process is too confusing and messy.
                    2. Does my mom/dad over is 70 years old, still need to go for the maid hiring course? They do not have email accounts or computer.
                    3. Any other things I need to look out for when leaving her at my folks’ place since it’s now taking care of elderly instead of kids.

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                    • starlight1968sgS Offline
                      starlight1968sg
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                      buttons\" post_id=\"2039119\" time=\"1632364817\" user_id=\"30210:

                      I have a maid that has been with me for 12 years. She is 54 years old this year. Next year, since my children are all going to secondary school, I have decided to stop her services. Moreover, there is no more space in the house for her to stay as it's really not fair for both maid and children to be sharing.
                      I have spoken to my folks and they are willing to take her in for her to live and work for them. I searched MOM website and most of the information that I am seeking is for new maids. Can someone please give me advice/ opinion....
                      1. Can I still keep her under my name even though she does not work or stay with me? I know legally it's not right, but the transfer process is too confusing and messy.
                      2. Does my mom/dad over is 70 years old, still need to go for the maid hiring course? They do not have email accounts or computer.
                      3. Any other things I need to look out for when leaving her at my folks' place since it's now taking care of elderly instead of kids.
                      1) You can call MOM to ask about the transfer process since it is merely a transfer of employer (from you to your parents). I find the MOM staff quite ok when I asked about the renewal process.
                      2) You can be their sponsor (in my case, my sis attended the course and took the test; the helper looks after my dad)
                      3) Maybe install a cctv at the appropriate places but inform the helper beforehand. You can say this is for her benefit (in case of any dispute).

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                      • EstéemaE Offline
                        Estéema
                        last edited by

                        starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2039120\" time=\"1632365280\" user_id=\"14025:

                        buttons\" post_id=\"2039119\" time=\"1632364817\" user_id=\"30210:

                        I have a maid that has been with me for 12 years. She is 54 years old this year. Next year, since my children are all going to secondary school, I have decided to stop her services. Moreover, there is no more space in the house for her to stay as it's really not fair for both maid and children to be sharing.
                        I have spoken to my folks and they are willing to take her in for her to live and work for them. I searched MOM website and most of the information that I am seeking is for new maids. Can someone please give me advice/ opinion....
                        1. Can I still keep her under my name even though she does not work or stay with me? I know legally it's not right, but the transfer process is too confusing and messy.
                        2. Does my mom/dad over is 70 years old, still need to go for the maid hiring course? They do not have email accounts or computer.
                        3. Any other things I need to look out for when leaving her at my folks' place since it's now taking care of elderly instead of kids.

                        1) You can call MOM to ask about the transfer process since it is merely a transfer of employer (from you to your parents). I find the MOM staff quite ok when I asked about the renewal process.
                        2) You can be their sponsor (in my case, my sis attended the course and took the test; the helper looks after my dad)
                        3) Maybe install a cctv at the appropriate places but inform the helper beforehand. You can say this is for her benefit (in case of any dispute).

                        Star had given u the option for being a sponsor for yr elderly parents to hire yr current helper to care for them. That way, neither yr elderly parents nor yourself need to go thro eyer’s course. Just go online MOM website select the sponsorship application. As a sponsor, yr current helper can then work at yr parents’ residence officially. Pls ensure she does hop btwn yr h’hold & yr elderly’s h’hold, then it’s perfect.

                        Yes, do get yr helper’s consent after explaining yr need to transfer h’hold. Best get it in writing so it doesn’t come back to bite u tt u’re using her for both h’hold since she’s alr familiar with yours & can use it against you even if she doesn’t step back to yr home after the transfer.

                        Shld work out well for her if handled carefully in process as she gets to keep working & earning unless she prefers to return back to homecountry. Shld work out well for you/parents having familiar resin to help yr parents & eliminate the hassle of bringing someone into SG during Covid (with PCR & high hotel quarantine expenses).

                        All the best! Come back share with this community yr success with the process.

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