Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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Can someone explain to me the logic behind got Covid (ART positive) no need to quarantine (can self-isolate at home), but maybe got maybe not (close contact) must quarantine (kena QO)?
QO and GQF no need use resources that may be better deployed somewhere else, like maybe ring-fencing our elderlies or medical observation of the more vulnerable Covid patients? -
pirate\" post_id=\"2039870\" time=\"1632965940\" user_id=\"66252:
Can someone explain to me the logic behind got Covid (ART positive) no need to quarantine (can self-isolate at home), but maybe got maybe not (close contact) must quarantine (kena QO)?
QO and GQF no need use resources that may be better deployed somewhere else, like maybe ring-fencing our elderlies or medical observation of the more vulnerable Covid patients?
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this looks to be the latest, as compiled by mothership. so close contacts of asymptomatic ART cases do not need to QO. Do read the footnote caveat.... i cannot vouch for the veracity of the info though, i think its all compiled on a best effort basis.
don't forget every ministry layers further rules on top of these central ones, like LOA lah, deep cleaning etc of various contacts of Covid positive, HRW etc. -
I hate it when people don’t listen at the beginning and then when it blows up, say you so smart you say what to do now lah. It is so adolescent.
Did we not tell you at the beginning endemic was a bad idea because your mRNA vaccines are useless against transmission of Delta? Did we not tell you to look at our own numbers, when you replied that the Brits and the Yanks say their lab numbers show it is effective?
Now that you have managed to screw it up, we tell you to push through because it is too late to reverse course.
Don’t cross the road like a freaking cat, running back when a car approaches. You will end up being roadkill.
If you need more resources to protect the vulnerable during this period, divert them from where they are not really needed. Start with govt quarantine facilities.
And for goodness sake when are we going to start vaccinating 5-11 year olds? -
What will we see if we were to push forward all the way?
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I just realised that I have never met any seniors who do not have underlying medical condition. Have you?
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pirate\" post_id=\"2039870\" time=\"1632965940\" user_id=\"66252:
To minimise healthcare resources
Can someone explain to me the logic behind got Covid (ART positive) no need to quarantine (can self-isolate at home), but maybe got maybe not (close contact) must quarantine (kena QO)?
QO and GQF no need use resources that may be better deployed somewhere else, like maybe ring-fencing our elderlies or medical observation of the more vulnerable Covid patients?
Art test not very accurate compare to pcr....so... -
ngl2010\" post_id=\"2039878\" time=\"1632969043\" user_id=\"40978:
Touchwood..my mom told me she went for check up, everything is ok.
I just realised that I have never met any seniors who do not have underlying medical condition. Have you? -
I agree that we should channel our resources to focus more on the vulnerable.
Earlier, someone posted a Chinese article on this 24 year old lady who was complaining about the TUAS facility and late food delivery,
I suppose she is there because she is unvaccinated.
Assuming she doesn’t have any underlying condition, I think she will most likely recover fine even if put on home recovery. -
What I want to see is the mortality numbers for the elderly in September so far compared to the monthly background mortality number for the same age groups for the past 2 years.
Was there a significant up tick?
They know how to say to us that people die from different causes all the time when people die after taking the vaccines, so must look at background mortality rates.
So let’s do the same here. Elderly people with underlying morbidities die all the time, if not Covid then the flu, pneumonia, dengue, diabetes etc. Let’s have a look at the numbers. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2039849\" time=\"1632931029\" user_id=\"17023:
I am upset that obviously MOH has all the pertinent numbers, but they only feed us partial data to support whatever narrative they want to push.
It is easy to say 98% of the positive cases have mild or no symptoms, so only 2% would require medical/hospital care. No! If we look at the figures, at least 20% of the daily cases involve seniors above 60yo and they need to go under observation before being triaged. I guess that is the reason MOH only planned to handle that 2% but now it turns out that they have to handle up to 10 times more!
OYK can pose one table showing how many % of what unvaccinated and vaccinated age groups became serious in his Facebook post. But MOH cannot give us updated tables of this every day. Instead they feed us useless numbers to give the appearance of transparency.
Why was I upset at Ho Ching? Obviously she had better access to data than the public. How dare she use that privilege to talk down to us!
Stop feeding us bullshit! That's how trust is lost.
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