Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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Could it be due to ‘uncontrollable’ ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it… don’t just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.
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doodbug\" post_id=\"2039995\" time=\"1633049207\" user_id=\"13281:
143 days would be less than 5 months
Because the magic number is 143 days after 2nd shot. Healthcare sector was very confused over this too.starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2039990\" time=\"1633039349\" user_id=\"14025:
The news reported that seniors age 60 above and took 2nd dose on 1 Apr or earlier, can walk in for the booster dose.
It is strange that my colleague age 63 received the SMS and booked his booster dose on 2 Oct despite his 2nd dose was mid Apr. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040007\" time=\"1633052292\" user_id=\"43981:
We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.
Could it be due to 'uncontrollable' ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it.. don't just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily. -
emoh\" post_id=\"2040008\" time=\"1633052533\" user_id=\"10618:
143 days would be less than 5 months[/quote]yes, please read this. It caused a lot of confusion in the medical community.
Because the magic number is 143 days after 2nd shot. Healthcare sector was very confused over this too.doodbug\" post_id=\"2039995\" time=\"1633049207\" user_id=\"13281:
[quote=starlight1968sg post_id=2039990 time=1633039349 user_id=14025]The news reported that seniors age 60 above and took 2nd dose on 1 Apr or earlier, can walk in for the booster dose.
It is strange that my colleague age 63 received the SMS and booked his booster dose on 2 Oct despite his 2nd dose was mid Apr.
https://hobbitsma.blog/2021/09/27/the-meandering-undead/ -
I extract the relevant portion from the Hobbit SMA article on the 143 days:
The Magic Number of 143
Going on to the subject of boosters. On 14 Sep 21, GPs were informed by AIC that boosters can be given for those 60 and above if they had received their two doses at least 6 months (or 180 days) ago. On 17 Sep 21, this was revised to 5 months (or 150 days). That’s fine. Then on 24 Sep 21, another (third) email was sent by AIC (on behalf of MOH) to yet again change the criteria to 143 days and if the person had received an SMS from MOH to take their booster shot.
Do the folks who craft and send out such emails in rapid succession think GPs have nothing to do but read their emails and circulars? Why 143 days? Why not 144 or 142? And why must it be accompanied by the SMS invitation? A nice number like 150 days or 5 months is very good. Thank you. Please don’t load us with more bureaucratic instructions that consumes more memory space. I have a small brain with limited memory space. This hobbit would like to suggest that bureaucrats should be given a KPI that states “Have you made HCWs’ life easier with less bureaucracy?” in their annual performance assessments. I think many will fail this KPI miserably. -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2040009\" time=\"1633052664\" user_id=\"13281:
Yes 1.5yrs at least already and read that it may not go away..very demoralising :sad:
We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040007\" time=\"1633052292\" user_id=\"43981:
Could it be due to 'uncontrollable' ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it.. don't just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.
But the conservative me would prefer close and open but can take higher numbers of infection rate but in a more controlled and manageable way lor.. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040012\" time=\"1633052930\" user_id=\"43981:
Yes 1.5yrs at least already and read that it may not go away..very demoralising :sad:
We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.doodbug\" post_id=\"2040009\" time=\"1633052664\" user_id=\"13281:
[quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2040007 time=1633052292 user_id=43981]Could it be due to 'uncontrollable' ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it.. don't just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.
But the conservative me would prefer close and open but can take higher numbers of infection rate but in a more controlled and manageable way lor..[/quote]Many Singaporeans feel exactly the way you do, MrsKiasu. Perfectly normal.
It only hits us when we are personally severely hit with some of the costs of the mitigation measures. -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2040013\" time=\"1633053191\" user_id=\"13281:
Many Singaporeans feel exactly the way you do, MrsKiasu. Perfectly normal.
Yes 1.5yrs at least already and read that it may not go away..very demoralising :sad:MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040012\" time=\"1633052930\" user_id=\"43981:
[quote=doodbug post_id=2040009 time=1633052664 user_id=13281]
We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.
But the conservative me would prefer close and open but can take higher numbers of infection rate but in a more controlled and manageable way lor..
It only hits us when we are personally severely hit with some of the costs of the mitigation measures.[/quote]This is a really test for all..top to bottom. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040007\" time=\"1633052292\" user_id=\"43981:
How much time is enough? The government has thrown the word \"endemic\" around, with explanations, for several months now. It's true their messaging has been poor, and there are the illiterate and those who have difficulty understanding around. However, they are trying to explain, however poorly, and the social services are hard at work too reaching out to those who may have difficulties grasping what is meant. It's not something that has suddenly been thrown at us. The MTF should have been franker earlier about the numbers of cases expected, but I think that might have taken them by surprise too.
Could it be due to 'uncontrollable' ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it.. don't just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.
Isolation for people who contract the virus has always been practised. That isn't new. Only doing it at home is new.
Earlier you asked whether endemic is the best way - I think that endemic is the ONLY way. It's just the speed at which we get there. We can't be hiding away from Covid for another year, or two, or more. If we shut down again, as we are now, it will slow the spread, but it will just pick up again when we open up. All we will have gained is a few months in lockdown when the case count is lower. Then the cases will rise when things relax.
Singapore is now a victim of its own earlier success in clamping down the virus. So few of us have natural immunity from catching the virus that every relaxation gives rise to many cases. I think the policy to clamp down was the correct response earlier, before vaccinations, but why the concern now? Even the elderly have protection - some will still get sick and die, but the no. is much lower than if the relaxation had happened a year ago. Our death toll from Covid is still under 100 after nearly 2 years - that's low by any standards. No health can be designed for zero deaths - flu, diabetes, TB, dengue... -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2040013\" time=\"1633053191\" user_id=\"13281:
I suppose part of the difference in opinion is in personality. For me, when something needs to be done, even if unpalatable, I would rather get it over and done with rather than postpone it. Now that we have vaccinations, and we know that most people will not get seriously sick, and there is no other way out, I would rather just do what needs to be done, and get it over with. The way I see it, if we clamp down again now, it will only postpone the inevitable. So I would prefer to grit my teeth and get it done sooner rather than later.
Many Singaporeans feel exactly the way you do, MrsKiasu. Perfectly normal.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040012\" time=\"1633052930\" user_id=\"43981:
Yes 1.5yrs at least already and read that it may not go away..very demoralising :sad:
But the conservative me would prefer close and open but can take higher numbers of infection rate but in a more controlled and manageable way lor..
It only hits us when we are personally severely hit with some of the costs of the mitigation measures.
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