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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • MrsKiasuM Offline
      MrsKiasu
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      My economic knowledge is low so dont laugh at me arh…


      If this continues, I think economy generated from our internal consumption may be lower also…

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      • doodbugD Offline
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        The question is - after shutting down a few weeks to bring down cases, then reopen and cases surge again, what do we do? Shut down again?


        Just reading today’s ST accounts on the PSLE kids made my heart sink. Imagine all the anxiety and mental costs all the measures are exacting on our PSLE kids. Our Covid-containment measures are super onerous! The numbers involved - no joke. I felt especially sorry for the account of the kid who went to the GP for a stomach ailment and was made to undergo a PCR test and due to results not being out in time, could not take PSLE English. The child’s mom is blaming herself like crazy for having brought the child to the doctor.

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        • MrsKiasuM Offline
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          Could it be due to ‘uncontrollable’ ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it… don’t just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.

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          • emohE Offline
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            doodbug\" post_id=\"2039995\" time=\"1633049207\" user_id=\"13281:

            starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2039990\" time=\"1633039349\" user_id=\"14025:

            The news reported that seniors age 60 above and took 2nd dose on 1 Apr or earlier, can walk in for the booster dose.

            It is strange that my colleague age 63 received the SMS and booked his booster dose on 2 Oct despite his 2nd dose was mid Apr.

            Because the magic number is 143 days after 2nd shot. Healthcare sector was very confused over this too.

            143 days would be less than 5 months

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            • doodbugD Offline
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              MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040007\" time=\"1633052292\" user_id=\"43981:

              Could it be due to 'uncontrollable' ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it.. don't just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.
              We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.

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              • doodbugD Offline
                doodbug
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                doodbug\" post_id=\"2039995\" time=\"1633049207\" user_id=\"13281:

                [quote=starlight1968sg post_id=2039990 time=1633039349 user_id=14025]The news reported that seniors age 60 above and took 2nd dose on 1 Apr or earlier, can walk in for the booster dose.

                It is strange that my colleague age 63 received the SMS and booked his booster dose on 2 Oct despite his 2nd dose was mid Apr.

                Because the magic number is 143 days after 2nd shot. Healthcare sector was very confused over this too.

                143 days would be less than 5 months[/quote]yes, please read this. It caused a lot of confusion in the medical community.
                https://hobbitsma.blog/2021/09/27/the-meandering-undead/

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                • doodbugD Offline
                  doodbug
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                  I extract the relevant portion from the Hobbit SMA article on the 143 days:


                  The Magic Number of 143

                  Going on to the subject of boosters. On 14 Sep 21, GPs were informed by AIC that boosters can be given for those 60 and above if they had received their two doses at least 6 months (or 180 days) ago. On 17 Sep 21, this was revised to 5 months (or 150 days). That’s fine. Then on 24 Sep 21, another (third) email was sent by AIC (on behalf of MOH) to yet again change the criteria to 143 days and if the person had received an SMS from MOH to take their booster shot.

                  Do the folks who craft and send out such emails in rapid succession think GPs have nothing to do but read their emails and circulars? Why 143 days? Why not 144 or 142? And why must it be accompanied by the SMS invitation? A nice number like 150 days or 5 months is very good. Thank you. Please don’t load us with more bureaucratic instructions that consumes more memory space. I have a small brain with limited memory space. This hobbit would like to suggest that bureaucrats should be given a KPI that states “Have you made HCWs’ life easier with less bureaucracy?” in their annual performance assessments. I think many will fail this KPI miserably.

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                  • MrsKiasuM Offline
                    MrsKiasu
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                    doodbug\" post_id=\"2040009\" time=\"1633052664\" user_id=\"13281:

                    MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040007\" time=\"1633052292\" user_id=\"43981:

                    Could it be due to 'uncontrollable' ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it.. don't just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.

                    We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.

                    Yes 1.5yrs at least already and read that it may not go away..very demoralising :sad:

                    But the conservative me would prefer close and open but can take higher numbers of infection rate but in a more controlled and manageable way lor..

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                    • doodbugD Offline
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                      doodbug\" post_id=\"2040009\" time=\"1633052664\" user_id=\"13281:

                      [quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2040007 time=1633052292 user_id=43981]Could it be due to 'uncontrollable' ? Spread till you just have to treat anyone near you may have it? And if get it need to be on own. This is new to us. And read ppl calling for medical assistance also difficult. Give ppl some time to get used to it.. don't just throw it out and expect we all can take it steadily.

                      We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.

                      Yes 1.5yrs at least already and read that it may not go away..very demoralising :sad:

                      But the conservative me would prefer close and open but can take higher numbers of infection rate but in a more controlled and manageable way lor..[/quote]Many Singaporeans feel exactly the way you do, MrsKiasu. Perfectly normal.
                      It only hits us when we are personally severely hit with some of the costs of the mitigation measures.

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                      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                        MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2040012\" time=\"1633052930\" user_id=\"43981:

                        [quote=doodbug post_id=2040009 time=1633052664 user_id=13281]

                        We have been molly-coddled for too long. Covid-19 is a viral infection. In every other country except Singapore (and possibly China), it's been \"recover yourself at home - go to hospital if you are seriously sick\". It has been like that for the past 1.5 years the world over. This was plenty of time to educate us Singaporeans.... and the messaging could have been rolled out earlier as part of Covid resilience and endemic living.

                        Yes 1.5yrs at least already and read that it may not go away..very demoralising :sad:

                        But the conservative me would prefer close and open but can take higher numbers of infection rate but in a more controlled and manageable way lor..

                        Many Singaporeans feel exactly the way you do, MrsKiasu. Perfectly normal.
                        It only hits us when we are personally severely hit with some of the costs of the mitigation measures.[/quote]This is a really test for all..top to bottom.

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