Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2040139\" time=\"1633082803\" user_id=\"14025:
Had our 1st shot in late March & 2nd shot mid-Apr. Booster shot encouraged. It’s yr decision. MIL says she’ll do yearly or as recommended by MOH, just as she diligently do her flu shots yearly.
Tks Esteema
Your 2nd dose was on 1 Apr or earlier?
Is the 6 mth gap btn 2nd dose and booster dose a must? -
lego\" post_id=\"2040161\" time=\"1633087984\" user_id=\"11821:
I thought about this Domino Effect too, whereby family member gets stuck in the QO/HRS cycle one after another. You need to join the Telegram group where there'll be people looking at your household situation on case-by-case basis. There are so many diff situations & permutations shared in that support group. Got a headache after skimming thru some sticky situations, e.g one elderly PUQ got ferried from comm hosp to hosp around the island to look for a bed!
Just wondering, for patients who have recovered after completing their 7 or 10 days isolation - do u know if they are exempted from QO touchwood should their close contacts come down with it subsequently?doodbug\" post_id=\"2040021\" time=\"1633055636\" user_id=\"13281:
While isolation for Covid positive individuals has always been practised, the protocols on close contacts have been changing a lot, a lot. Resulting in confusion and chaos on the ground.
Part of the confusion/frustration stems from our fear of contravening the IDA. Should I stay or should I go? Can I go or must I stay? Will I be charged if I step out one minute earlier? Both QO and HRW are legally binding. HRA is not.
QO person is paid allowance, whereas HRW and HRA persons are not.
https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/forms/qo-allowance-form.pdf -
nobody dares to give advice cos scared to give wrong advice lol!
best to join the telegram group - OYK says MOH has ‘infiltrated’ the telegram group and will help to answer questions right? That should be the best place to ask. -
Ok, thanks zeit, doodbug!
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zeit.\" post_id=\"2040174\" time=\"1633090090\" user_id=\"194295:
I thought about this Domino Effect too, whereby family member gets stuck in the QO/HRS cycle one after another. You need to join the Telegram group where there'll be people looking at your household situation on case-by-case basis. There are so many diff situations & permutations shared in that support group. Got a headache after skimming thru some sticky situations, e.g one elderly PUQ got ferried from comm hosp to hosp around the island to look for a bed!
Just wondering, for patients who have recovered after completing their 7 or 10 days isolation - do u know if they are exempted from QO touchwood should their close contacts come down with it subsequently?lego\" post_id=\"2040161\" time=\"1633087984\" user_id=\"11821:
[quote=doodbug post_id=2040021 time=1633055636 user_id=13281]While isolation for Covid positive individuals has always been practised, the protocols on close contacts have been changing a lot, a lot. Resulting in confusion and chaos on the ground.
Part of the confusion/frustration stems from our fear of contravening the IDA. Should I stay or should I go? Can I go or must I stay? Will I be charged if I step out one minute earlier? Both QO and HRW are legally binding. HRA is not.
QO person is paid allowance, whereas HRW and HRA persons are not.
https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/forms/qo-allowance-form.pdfdoodbug\" post_id=\"2040175\" time=\"1633090563\" user_id=\"13281:
[/quote]There are volunteer docs in the telegram helping with Q&A. Some of my doc frds blend so naturally in coz one frd just shared his son C+ and he’s gotta train him to be brave in quarantine. So, yes, clarify on telegram platform. Be forewarned though - it’s terribly crowded & fast chat if u can catchup. Some process questions can’t be resolved though.nobody dares to give advice cos scared to give wrong advice lol!
best to join the telegram group - OYK says MOH has 'infiltrated' the telegram group and will help to answer questions right? That should be the best place to ask. -
pirate\" post_id=\"2039984\" time=\"1633019720\" user_id=\"66252:
You have a point there. Maybe more than half of the seniors who caught COVID got it from their work place. Remember the 90yo airport cleaner and 88yo cashier at McDonald’s? Friend’s 65 yr old mum just tested positive for covid, she worked as a cleaner at Plaza Sing and likely caught it from her cleaner colleague there!
They know how many seniors >60 actually work at markets, hawker centres, coffeeshops etc?
手停口停。
:siam:
Most seniors who caught COVID could be from lower SES, 手停口停 type. I suppose the socio-economic divide between the seniors is even more stark, the more educated ones read newspapers daily and know what to do to protect themselves. Plus they have the economic means to stay home or have helpers serve them. -
zeit.\" post_id=\"2040174\" time=\"1633090090\" user_id=\"194295:
I thought about this Domino Effect too, whereby family member gets stuck in the QO/HRS cycle one after another... [/quote]I like the term \"domino effect\"! Yes, I thought of this too! Hope that if we are going to suffer this, we all catch it roughly the same time, not one person every 10 days.
Just wondering, for patients who have recovered after completing their 7 or 10 days isolation - do u know if they are exempted from QO touchwood should their close contacts come down with it subsequently?lego\" post_id=\"2040161\" time=\"1633087984\" user_id=\"11821:
[quote=doodbug post_id=2040021 time=1633055636 user_id=13281]While isolation for Covid positive individuals has always been practised, the protocols on close contacts have been changing a lot, a lot. Resulting in confusion and chaos on the ground.
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If you are ART positive but asymptomatic,family members no longer need to QO, I think.
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2040139\" time=\"1633082803\" user_id=\"14025:
As in all things medical, these are just and average. For some, the efficacy of the vaccine may run down faster, while for others, the efficacy may still be fairly strong after 6 mths. It seems that it runs down faster for the elderly and less fast for younger people. And it's not like it reaches a particular day and just falls to zero; it's gradual.
Is the 6 mth gap btn 2nd dose and booster dose a must?
How I see it is that you should judge your risk (e.g.your age and other underlying conditions), and if you are not at high risk, then wait the full 6 mths or even longer. It would be rather a waste to take it early and have that overlap. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2040015\" time=\"1633054515\" user_id=\"28674:
How much time is enough? The government has thrown the word \"endemic\" around, with explanations, for several months now. It's true their messaging has been poor, and there are the illiterate and those who have difficulty understanding around. However, they are trying to explain, however poorly, and the social services are hard at work too reaching out to those who may have difficulties grasping what is meant. It's not something that has suddenly been thrown at us. The MTF should have been franker earlier about the numbers of cases expected, but I think that might have taken them by surprise too.
Isolation for people who contract the virus has always been practised. That isn't new. Only doing it at home is new.
Earlier you asked whether endemic is the best way - I think that endemic is the ONLY way. It's just the speed at which we get there. We can't be hiding away from Covid for another year, or two, or more. If we shut down again, as we are now, it will slow the spread, but it will just pick up again when we open up. All we will have gained is a few months in lockdown when the case count is lower. Then the cases will rise when things relax.
See the problem is from June/July we have been told that there is Singapore is taking a different strategy - we will learn to live with Covid . It was, in a way reassuring, because we know that we cant hide forever.
The problem while being told Singapore Covid 19 endemic but we weren't told of the trade offs -of the worst case scenarios. We are used to a govt that paints a real and at times a grimmer picture - preparing us for the worst. But this time while we were repeated told about Covid19 becoming an endemic, we were not told about how it could impact some of us . We, on the otherhand, started associating it with lesser restrictions, of meeting friends, dining out, attending events, a glimmer of hope for travel even by the end of the year.
Was the MTF taken by surprise? If so why? Some of the best people on the team - experts with knowledge and experience - why werent they ready with a Plan A/B/C/D? And that worries me the most - that they didnt forsee such numbers. For me, this isnt even the worst case scenario, things could be a lot lot worse, and if this took them by surprise, then that's scary. That said, MTF has an unenviable job , a thousand things could go wrong.
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