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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • sharonkhooS Offline
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      slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2041440\" time=\"1633824958\" user_id=\"28674:

      An issue I have with their announcements is that there is no clear description of what constitutes mild/serious or well/unwell. My family is that kind that treat anything other than \"can barely crawl out of bed\" as \"mild\" and \"fairly well\", while others will consider any cough/cold/slight fever as \"serious/unwell\". Somewhere else, \"e.g. high fever, breathlessness\" was given as descriptions of \"unwell\", but how high is high?

      Maybe soon we will have more of such mishandled case, since our hospital is obviously already under stress and this can means people may not be admitted until it is very severe or probability of mistakes are much higher. A oximeter reading of 88% is not a \"mild\" condition and yet he can be deemed \"eligible for discharge\". Or maybe our \"mild definition\" is now \"not really mild in real world\".

      At low oxygen saturation, organ damage will have begin and even if recovered, it is likely someone with extended period of low oxygen saturation will be expected to have some long term consequences. Maybe the grave is not that bad a choice after all.

      https://www.8world.com/singapore/covid-19-man-sent-home-by-hospital-and-continue-feeling-breathless-1612746

      Yes, that's why I would prefer that they state clearly some criteria that would constitute \"serious\" or \"unwell\", so that people will know when they need to seek medical treatment, or when it's unnecessary. Otherwise the stoic are likely to not seek treatment as quickly as they should, and the A&Es may get clogged up with people who should just rest at home. If at least some of the major criteria are spelled out clearly, at least it can help us decide for ourselves as a first cut.

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
        zac's mum
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        starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2041422\" time=\"1633785143\" user_id=\"14025:

        Am getting confused; for those ART positive and no symptoms, just ART on Day 3 (ie 72 hours) or daily until negative, then taken as ok and no need to do a doctor?

        This was the case even before yesterday, for those with no/mild symptoms. Which is why the daily case nos. are no longer any indication of what is happening.

        An issue I have with their announcements is that there is no clear description of what constitutes mild/serious or well/unwell. My family is that kind that treat anything other than \"can barely crawl out of bed\" as \"mild\" and \"fairly well\", while others will consider any cough/cold/slight fever as \"serious/unwell\". Somewhere else, \"e.g. high fever, breathlessness\" was given as descriptions of \"unwell\", but how high is high?

        I guess it’s up to own personal judgment now. They just don’t want everybody chionging to the A&E for minor symptoms.

        If it’s just flu-like symptoms, then just self-medicate with whatever flu medicine you have. If still doesn’t improve, then go see GP and let them make the assessment/judgment. Again, the GP consultation fee is there to deter people from overtaxing the GPs unless it’s serious enough.

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        • MrsKiasuM Offline
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          The 50s dying is like not ‘rare’ anymore looks like and that’s worrying me. 50s, in Singapore can have that many health conditions mah? Maybe can provide more info on the health issues…


          And there is group 19-39 needing O2 and in icu. Very young leh. Though number is very small, again what kind of conditions that can land them there… and we talking abt 3k cases (excl the supposedly mild Home Recovery group) now.

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          • lee_ylL Offline
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            The MTF said the growth rate of daily positive cases seems slowing down.


            I wonder is it really slowing down Or because ART positive no need to take PCR thus daily numbers aren’t growing? May be, a persistently high death rate is the only (delayed) proxy indicator that COVID is still spreading fast and furious in the community.

            One day, when we all switch to using ART and only no more PCR, our country will achieve zero case!

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            • MrsKiasuM Offline
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              The other day I was talking to dh, we try not to catch covid, if catch covid we try not to go hospital, if go hospital we try not to go icu...if only it is within our control :sad:

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              • MrsKiasuM Offline
                MrsKiasu
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                slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2041440\" time=\"1633824958\" user_id=\"28674:

                starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2041422\" time=\"1633785143\" user_id=\"14025:

                Am getting confused; for those ART positive and no symptoms, just ART on Day 3 (ie 72 hours) or daily until negative, then taken as ok and no need to do a doctor?

                This was the case even before yesterday, for those with no/mild symptoms. Which is why the daily case nos. are no longer any indication of what is happening.

                An issue I have with their announcements is that there is no clear description of what constitutes mild/serious or well/unwell. My family is that kind that treat anything other than \"can barely crawl out of bed\" as \"mild\" and \"fairly well\", while others will consider any cough/cold/slight fever as \"serious/unwell\". Somewhere else, \"e.g. high fever, breathlessness\" was given as descriptions of \"unwell\", but how high is high?

                Yes, when dds fever go up to 40deg. I also home medicate them. So to some threshold is higher. For myself, headache I use caffeine from coffee instead of pain killer. Flu we just take vit C. Jialat if treat covid like normal illness.

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                • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                  I dislike the new measures…

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                  • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                    I wonder if the security guards and cleaners are subjected to the weekly ART since they meet a lot of pple in their work.

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                    • lee_ylL Offline
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                      starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2041460\" time=\"1633827953\" user_id=\"14025:

                      I dislike the new measures...
                      There’s one that bans unvaccinated people from malls is too draconian!

                      I read some comments online that govt should also take into consideration their mental, emotional and social well being.

                      Dental clinics, hair salon, pharmacies etc, are nested in malls. Govt is driving the unvaccinated seniors to their early grave. Some of these seniors stay alone in 2 or 3rm flats, coop them up in the house the whole day 迟早去跳楼!

                      Earlier I suggested to ban seniors from dining in for one month, some disagreed and asked rhetorically whether need to police diabetes drinking sugary drinks or not. Then aren’t these new measures are so much more drastic/draconian?

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                      • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                        Actually the unvaccinated ones should be the ones worrying. Logically they are the ones who should avoid crowded places. So why ban the unvaccinated ones entering…? Are they the ones carrying the virus? Vaccinated ones can carry the virus and worse is w/o symptoms.

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