2022 PSLE Discussions & Strategies (born in 2010)
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044592\" time=\"1635860350\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes, that is correct! Hurry, sign up for more tuitions! MOE already said there will be difficult math questions.[/quote]Some difficult math questions can be solved by logic, not tuition. I have seen kids with no tuition solving such questions easily; and on the contrary for others, no matter how much tuition cannot means cannot.
highest score is AL4 and certainly don't need to ballot..Even AL5 should be safe too.Veyron\" post_id=\"2044590\" time=\"1635859990\" user_id=\"30663:
[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044565 time=1635852016 user_id=195250]
To be fair, students with the highest score should be able to get into their dream schools just like a hardworking staff should get his promotion. If there are only 10 places left in a school with 15 students fighting for the places, the selection criteria should be their exam result not their luck by balloting. In Chinese, we say \"技不如人，
輸得心服口服\" if the losers are having a lower score than the winners. -
AHsDad\" post_id=\"2044586\" time=\"1635858532\" user_id=\"172457:
I feel the same, it’s “for kids to challenge themselves and not others. New AL scoring, though not perfect, is a move in the right direction.” It’s never a tool to stop crying. Crying itself is a good thing, it relives one’s stresses and helps one to cope. I don’t see why we have to look at it with a negative connotation.
No student (and parent) who gets eg AL6 should ever feel superior to another student who gets same AL6 because the true score will never be known. Balloting is among equals.
Personally, I think the gov intent makes sense, ie for kids to challenge themselves and not others. New AL scoring, though not perfect, is a move in the right direction.
Just my 2 cents
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044602\" time=\"1635862170\" user_id=\"17023:
What I am saying applies to parents too. e.g. There are parents who can quietly accept the fact that their child math is averaging AL3 to AL4 in school tests and exams, but cry foul when their child is unable to solve 1 or 2 more difficult questions during the national exams, losing say 5 to 6 marks our of 100. For that reason, they turn around to accuse MOE of being insensitive etc. even when MOE already explain that PSLE papers are designed for a wide range of students with different learning abilities, which include GEPers. And that is why every year there will be a few more challenging questions that require students to think out of the box.
I think many will disagree that students who don’t usually score 100, then there is no point in crying, because every student has their own dream school and all are equally worried they cannot meet the AL COP. So every mark still counts.
Earlier you were saying “wider choice”. So I am reminding you that under tscore, one can fill up 6 choices with any schools they like and whose COP is near, after all COP does fluctuate from year to year and ultimately choices are just as wide. In fact, under AL Banding if a school’s COP is AL9, and one scores AL9 (meets the COP), there’s no guarantee that you can get in.
Under the T-score, a student will usually have to select school choice based on the range of COP which are +/-2 points from PSLE t-score results. However under AL system, the range will be much wider. To give you an illustration.
e.g. if a school has AL13 COP, the estimated range of PSLE t-score result that qualify for AL13 school will be from 217 to 240. e.g. under t-score system, the school actual COP could be 230, which mean a student with 220 or even 225 t-score will have no reason to include a 230 COP school in their school choices. But under AL system, its now possible and they have equal chance as a 240 students to get into the same school. -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044611\" time=\"1635867644\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044611 time=1635867644 user_id=58173]
PSLE is the P6es first ever experience sitting for national exams and coupled by puberty etc, its not uncommon to see some students feeling emotional during exams.AHsDad\" post_id=\"2044586\" time=\"1635858532\" user_id=\"172457:
I feel the same, it’s “for kids to challenge themselves and not others. New AL scoring, though not perfect, is a move in the right direction.” It’s never a tool to stop crying. Crying itself is a good thing, it relives one’s stresses and helps one to cope. I don’t see why we have to look at it with a negative connotation.[/quote]No student (and parent) who gets eg AL6 should ever feel superior to another student who gets same AL6 because the true score will never be known. Balloting is among equals.
Personally, I think the gov intent makes sense, ie for kids to challenge themselves and not others. New AL scoring, though not perfect, is a move in the right direction.
Just my 2 cents🏼 -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044610\" time=\"1635867281\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044610 time=1635867281 user_id=58173]
Some difficult math questions can be solved by logic, not tuition. I have seen kids with no tuition solving such questions easily; and on the contrary for others, no matter how much tuition cannot means cannot.[/quote]Good for these children as they have the gift.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044592\" time=\"1635860350\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes, that is correct! Hurry, sign up for more tuitions! MOE already said there will be difficult math questions.
highest score is AL4 and certainly don't need to ballot..Even AL5 should be safe too.
Well, but that is not the main point I want to bring across. If under the new system, MOE said there will be difficult maths questions, parents will still continue to send children to tuition. And for those who aim to score AL4 or AL5 to be guaranteed a place in their choice of school, most if not all, will still have to continue going for tuition/enrichment. It does not apply to math alone, it also applies to other subjects like Chinese as it’s not easy to get AL1 for Chinese.
Maths can be solved by logic by a talented few, but for most of us who are not endowed with the gift, we need someone to show us the way. -
Just relating to the crying over the exam/results…one dd will do that and as parent we just need to tell our kid to be brave to accept whatever consequences and learn from it. I told dd cannot cry and I think no more crying now.
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2044636\" time=\"1635902244\" user_id=\"43981:
Why stop kids from crying? I think crying is a very human thing to do and, under certain conditions, it shows real contriteness and a determination to do better next time. Of course, if the kid always cry after every exam, then it gets irritating
Just relating to the crying over the exam/results..one dd will do that and as parent we just need to tell our kid to be brave to accept whatever consequences and learn from it. I told dd cannot cry and I think no more crying now.
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044631\" time=\"1635901872\" user_id=\"17023:
If we send 10 kids to the same school same tuition centre, eat the same food and sleep and wake up at the same time, their academic outcome will still be different. Hence the best advice to parents is not to compare a child with others or even siblings, and there is also no need to feel envy by making unjust remarks about students who do well is due to tuition and enrichment. Furthermore, academics is just one of part in learning, there are other areas such as sports, music, art etc.
Good for these children as they have the gift.
Well, but that is not the main point I want to bring across. If under the new system, MOE said there will be difficult maths questions, parents will still continue to send children to tuition. And for those who aim to score AL4 or AL5 to be guaranteed a place in their choice of school, most if not all, will still have to continue going for tuition/enrichment. It does not apply to math alone, it also applies to other subjects like Chinese as it’s not easy to get AL1 for Chinese.
Maths can be solved by logic by a talented few, but for most of us who are not endowed with the gift, we need someone to show us the way.
All MOE can do is strive to provide every child equal opportunity but they cannot guarantee equal outcomes. Even siblings from the same household cannot be equal too. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2044636\" time=\"1635902244\" user_id=\"43981:
Yes, we sayang sayang them too.
Just relating to the crying over the exam/results..one dd will do that and as parent we just need to tell our kid to be brave to accept whatever consequences and learn from it. I told dd cannot cry and I think no more crying now. -
ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2044648\" time=\"1635905146\" user_id=\"3:
Agree too.. lol
Why stop kids from crying? I think crying is a very human thing to do and, under certain conditions, it shows real contriteness and a determination to do better next time. Of course, if the kid always cry after every exam, then it gets irritatingMrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2044636\" time=\"1635902244\" user_id=\"43981:
Just relating to the crying over the exam/results..one dd will do that and as parent we just need to tell our kid to be brave to accept whatever consequences and learn from it. I told dd cannot cry and I think no more crying now.
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