2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)
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Veyron\" post_id=\"2048111\" time=\"1637807274\" user_id=\"30663:
I believe the reason why more students made it to Express is due to the AL6 score band of 45-65 marks.
In terms of overall pass rate to secondary school, it is the same 98.4% as 2020.sushi88\" post_id=\"2048104\" time=\"1637806791\" user_id=\"100857:
[quote=Pegasus08 post_id=2047984 time=1637770697 user_id=41264]Since the results are out, any sense on whether this year's cohort did better or worse than last year?
In terms of students making to Express course, it has increased from 66. 3% in 2020 to 68.4% in 2021
In terms of students making to Normal Acad course, it decreased from 21.2% in 2020 to 18.9% in 2021.
For Normal Tech, it was increased from 11% to 11.1%.
Looking at this, it seems the 2021 cohort did better since the % of students going to Express from NA is higher (2.1%) then NA going to NT (0.1%) and probably a remaining rounding to 1 decimal place of 0.1% unaccounted for in the decrease for NA, (2020 ~ 66.3+21.2+11 = 98.5% when it should be 98.4%)
Under the old system, anything below 50 mark is failed, but today, 45 is the same as 65.[/quote]
You are probably right in the sense for students who are handicapped by some weak subjects.
AL6 band is 45-64
For the students who are balanced in all 4 subjects, eg. 64 for all 4 subjects will end up as AL24 (normal stream). So it means this new system gives hope to students who are extremely strong in 1-2 subjects and can still get to go into the Express stream. -
m3i_m3i\" post_id=\"2048147\" time=\"1637810138\" user_id=\"18745:
Thanks for your quick reply. Really headache. For tie-breakers using choice of school, it was not clear to me from MOE's communication if they consider choice of program or choice of school for dual-track schools.
Indicative IP CHS is 8(M) so it's unlikely your son will get it, there still AL8(P), AL8 & AL9(D) above his score.tyne\" post_id=\"2048108\" time=\"1637807153\" user_id=\"16028:
Hi All
Having a hard time deciding on schools. My son scored AL9(M) and we are tossing around a few options. He is attracted to the idea of skipping another major exam in 4 years but not exactly fixated about getting into IP and he has an affiliated secondary school with cut off at AL12 (for non-affiliates). Given these considerations, we are thinking of:
1.\tCatholic High – IP (AL8)
2.\tCatholic High – O’levels (AL9M)
3.\tACSI – O’levels (AL9)
4.\tSJI – O’levels (AL10)
5.\tAffiliated School (AL12)
For #1 and #2 scenario – our hypothesis is that if he can’t get into Catholic High IP and Catholic High O’levels goes into tiebreaker, given that he is Singaporean and had chosen the same school in #1 and #2, the system still views his choice of Catholic High as first choice. Can I pls affirm this understanding?
Given that we have SJI and affiliated school as #4 and #5 and there is a 1–2-point buffer here, this should be a safe fall-back strategy to at least get into either one of these schools if he fails to get into the schools ranked ahead?
Appreciate any feedback and advice.
If COP CHS is exactly the same with the indicative 9(M), it's disadvantage to put it in the 2nd order because kids put it in 1st order will get in first.
It's also the same disadvantage to put ACSI in 3rd order.
As there's possibility this year COP not exactly the same with indicative (means can be higher or lower) so if that order is your son's best choice of preference, then you can go with it.
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sportyger\" post_id=\"2048168\" time=\"1637811178\" user_id=\"28161:
MGS IB cop 5 then she can't make it. Cop 6 then she may end up ballot. Then the f don't get that 2nd choice risky if cop is 7 or 8 all those put first choice with 5/6 points in and full?
Daughter got AL6(M), thinking of putting MGS IB as first choice and St Nicks IP as second choice. Do you all think it's OK? -
Papalovesgirl\" post_id=\"2048162\" time=\"1637810867\" user_id=\"145597:
From MOE website: https://www.moe.gov.sg/secondary/s1-posting/school-choices/complete-option-form
Indicative IP CHS is 8(M) so it's unlikely your son will get it, there still AL8(P), AL8 & AL9(D) above his score.m3i_m3i\" post_id=\"2048148\" time=\"1637810155\" user_id=\"18745:
[quote=tyne post_id=2048108 time=1637807153 user_id=16028]Hi All
Having a hard time deciding on schools. My son scored AL9(M) and we are tossing around a few options. He is attracted to the idea of skipping another major exam in 4 years but not exactly fixated about getting into IP and he has an affiliated secondary school with cut off at AL12 (for non-affiliates). Given these considerations, we are thinking of:
1.\tCatholic High – IP (AL8)
2.\tCatholic High – O’levels (AL9M)
3.\tACSI – O’levels (AL9)
4.\tSJI – O’levels (AL10)
5.\tAffiliated School (AL12)
For #1 and #2 scenario – our hypothesis is that if he can’t get into Catholic High IP and Catholic High O’levels goes into tiebreaker, given that he is Singaporean and had chosen the same school in #1 and #2, the system still views his choice of Catholic High as first choice. Can I pls affirm this understanding?
Given that we have SJI and affiliated school as #4 and #5 and there is a 1–2-point buffer here, this should be a safe fall-back strategy to at least get into either one of these schools if he fails to get into the schools ranked ahead?
Appreciate any feedback and advice.
If COP CHS is exactly the same with the indicative 9(M), it's disadvantage to put it in the 2nd order because kids put it in 1st order will get in first.
It's also the same disadvantage to put ACSI in 3rd order.
As there's possibility this year COP not exactly the same with indicative (means can be higher or lower) so if that order is your son's best choice of preference, then you can go with it.
\"For priority admission to the affiliated secondary school, your child must indicate that school as the first choice. However, admission is still subject to the availability of places. Some schools may also have additional qualifying criteria for their affiliated primary school students.\"
You need another safety net to replace the affiliated school.[/quote]Thanks for the quick reply. The affiliated school cut-off for affiliates is 16 and for non-affiliates is 12. So my choice #5 should be a really safe fall-back? :xedfingers: -
Some useful info:
[list]- Students must obtain a PSLE Score of 8 or better to be eligible for Foreign Languages (FL) - French, German, Japanese and Spanish => AL 4 - 8 is ~ top 10%.
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Side note: A popular SAP school in the east has 121 students out of ~400 get AL 4-8.- Around 4,000 Sec 1 students enter the IP each year, which is roughly 10% of the PSLE cohort.
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A total of 39,119 pupils sat the PSLE this year.- ESIS AL 4 - 5 ~top 3%.
[/list]Hope this helps. - Students must obtain a PSLE Score of 8 or better to be eligible for Foreign Languages (FL) - French, German, Japanese and Spanish => AL 4 - 8 is ~ top 10%.
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Rea\" post_id=\"2048151\" time=\"1637810350\" user_id=\"47915:
Yes, I understand what you mean....Really in a dilemma[/quote]1 to 2 points in AL is not equivalent to 1 to 2 points in t-score terms. That additional 1 to 2 points in AL term is very big in terms of raw scores.
Usually to play safe, apply for school 1-2 point lower than the cut-off points.. Year to Year comparision is usually +- 1 point only.. For 2 point away from the cut off point, it is VERY RISKY. Not worth the risk. But you can try if u really want too.. but chances are very low in my view...optrex80\" post_id=\"2048125\" time=\"1637808608\" user_id=\"72116:
[quote=Rea post_id=2048116 time=1637807882 user_id=47915]Hello
Can someone advise me please.
My child scored a total of 15.
Do you think its ok for me to apply for school with 13 as cut off point? Please help. This AL system is soo tough
e.g AL13 COP, the lowest possible t-score can now go as low as 217 if a student score say 90 85 75 45. (1 2 4 6)
Which mean, for 2021 schools with AL13 COP last year will see most AL13 students vying for the last place.
If your child has AL15 score, even AL15 COP school may be risky because AL15 can now go include t-score 195 (extreme case) if student score 90\t85\t45\t45 (1 2 6 6).
As MOE has mentioned, under AL system, more students are being pushed up to take express streams, which mean there can only be more competition. -
Bleep\" post_id=\"2048172\" time=\"1637811478\" user_id=\"195257:
2020 MGS COP for IB program was 257 or AL6, whereas RGS COP for 2020 was 261 or AL6.
MGS IB cop 5 then she can't make it. Cop 6 then she may end up ballot. Then the f don't get that 2nd choice risky if cop is 7 or 8 all those put first choice with 5/6 points in and full?sportyger\" post_id=\"2048168\" time=\"1637811178\" user_id=\"28161:
Daughter got AL6(M), thinking of putting MGS IB as first choice and St Nicks IP as second choice. Do you all think it's OK?
MGS 2020 indicative AL COP is based on the actual last student PSLE result, it doesnt take into account the possibility for the 257 (AL6) students changing their mind and apply to RGS in 2020 because under t-score, that was not possible.
So for 2021, its possible that RGS make attract or steal more 1st choice AL6 applicants from MGS. So AL6 students applying 1st choice for MGS may end up having a higher chance. -
yangshixin\" post_id=\"2048127\" time=\"1637808792\" user_id=\"195344:
Yes, the S1 posting form will state if u are eligible to do 3rd language. 8 and below - can take foreign language like french spanish jap and german.jlytze\" post_id=\"2047747\" time=\"1637734610\" user_id=\"28060:
Received this from my son’s parent support group- just sharing in case anyone interested - think they are covering French Spanish German and Japanese in this talk.
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Do we need AL score of 8 to do 3rd language? if the form doesn't come with the results means cannot take? -
My daughter scored AL 19 this year. Please help to suggest secondary schools nearby ang mo kio area.
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Based on new AL system, all AL 5 will be awarded EEIS. Imagine if a few students who gotten AL 5 didn’t receive EEIS letter, MOE will receive complains as it will not be fair. Last year EEIS based on T-score is 261.
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