2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)
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crushh\" post_id=\"2048419\" time=\"1637850372\" user_id=\"2564:
COP for RGS in 2020 is 261 with indicative AL COP of AL6.
Congrats on your girl's stellar results. Yes there is a possibility of balloting at RGS for AL6 but I would think there is a decent chance. Simply put, it's hard to tell how many AL6 were accepted last year and what the probability is.siokhoon\" post_id=\"2048370\" time=\"1637843072\" user_id=\"122732:
My girl has AL6M, am thinking of this order:
1. RGS (COP = 6)
2. NYG (COP = 7M)
3. St Nick IP (COP = 7M)
4. NJC (COP = 7)
5. SCGS (COP =
6. Dunman / Cedar Girl (COP =
She is only interested in RGS so though chance of balloting is high, I think should at least try. And I am prepared that NYG will also have no chance.
Will she be safe for St Nick / NJC?
I'm in similar situation but am hestiant coz I understand from another thread that Nanyang requires min of B3 as passing grade for HCL 'O' levels while RGS only requires a C6 pass? Anyone knows and can verify? How abt the passing grade for HCL at St Nicks and NJC?
Gotta choose carefully and know what our kids are in for. NYGH may not be a good fallback option if not confident in excelling in HCL.
Thanks!
The other AL6 COP school in 2020 is MGS, which has a t-score COP of 257.
What this means is that the lowest AL6 score for 2020 is perhaps 257.
Since we know combined raw score difference between AL6 and AL5 is only 5 marks (355 vs 350), hence in t-score term is will be around 3.5 to 4.
If 257 is the lowest t-score for AL6, then AL5 will be around 257+ 3.5-4, which is around 261.
So if you ask me, I think AL6 for RGS will have a high risk because, 261 is already within AL5 range and under AL system, 257 equivalent score range will now qualify to apply for RGS, whereas under T-score, 257 will have zero chance. -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2048429\" time=\"1637851199\" user_id=\"188234:
I think you are OK to stack HCI, ACS(I), and NJC ahead of RVHS and one other safety catch all.
Hi MerlionInGermanySpongyBobs\" post_id=\"2048411\" time=\"1637849382\" user_id=\"196018:
[quote=MerlionInGermany post_id=2048395 time=1637847069 user_id=2964]
Will NJC still do boarding?
If i have to choose between njc and ac, I will go with ac. A bigger cohort offers more options in everything, — cca, programmes, subject combinations etc
We did not consider cohort size as part of decision making considerations. Now that you mentioned it, I think it sure has its advantage. From my unreliable research source, NJC vs ACS(I) cohort size is 200 v 400.
But, well, thank you for bringing this up.
I hear the arguments on cohort size but have wondered how much it really matters? I can see how it makes more CCAs available but many of them are still competitive as heck to get a spot in. I suppose there is a difference in subject combinations and programmes in upper sec and this favors the larger cohorts. However, when the school is a mix of IP and O level it doesn't seem like there is much benefit then; you are still limited to the size of the IP or O level cohort respectively. At the same time, I have never heard of kids having problems of generally getting what they want at some of the split IP/O schools. Similarly, not everyone at the 400 cohort schools can get what they want in Sec 3 (if target one of the popular programs).
I've also looked at some of the standard JC subject combinations and it isn't necessarily the case that larger cohort equals more options.
So not saying it doesn't matter, but I'm not sure how much. I think the many other factors about the schools are probably more important (understanding there may be some link to cohort size).
Regardless, seems like you have many options - good luck![/quote]Hi SG-KP1
Thank you! Looks like we have a lot of considerations to weigh before we decide. Like Zeal Mummy said, IP-IB can be quite demanding compared to IP-A level of NJC or RVHS.
And a colleague of mine said \"go to AJC rather than NJC if he is qualified for both\". :scratchhead:
We will look for more information & process them further.
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brfish\" post_id=\"2048447\" time=\"1637852916\" user_id=\"102306:
Yours is a tricky scenario. It would have been easier for me if School A and B are actual school names so that I don’t have to keep recalling which one is SAP and which is not.
How does the tie breaker work exactly?
I understand how the sequence and everything. But that's in single school situation. How does it work when there are multiple students and multiple schools?
Let's say there are two students, Joe Al 8D and Jill AL 8M. There are two schools, A and B, each with 1 seat left. A is SAP school and B is not. Joe and Jill are the only people competing for the last seat.
Joe's choices are:
1. RI (COP 6 so he didn't get in)
2. School B
3. School A
Jill's choices are:
1. School A
2. School B
From school A perspective, Joe is ahead with D in HCL. From school B perspective, both students are the same so need to ballot.
So will Joe places into A first, then Jill gets into B without need to ballot. Or do they ballot for school B first, and the one not getting it go to School A?
Also note in this situation the COP for school A would be different...
My interpretation is that both will need to ballot for school B if 8M is not good enough for school A. Mabbe others can confirm my understanding as this scenario is slightly mind boggling. -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2048400\" time=\"1637847975\" user_id=\"30663:
NJC COP for 2020 was 254 or AL7. Under AL system, AL8 can go as low as 247 if there is an AL5 subject in the mix.infinitz\" post_id=\"2048398\" time=\"1637847503\" user_id=\"143949:
My son got 8(P) and we stay in the west. No chance for NJC?
Very low chance for NJC partly also due to its centralized location.
In the west, better choose RVHS
Just wondering, how do u know AL8 can be as low as 247? The lowest permutation i can get is 251 (65 + 90 + 90 + 90 )/4*3 -
Anyone can share your views if it’s high risk to try for Cat High (IP) with a score of AL8(P)?
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okie\" post_id=\"2048462\" time=\"1637854383\" user_id=\"44307:
NJC COP for 2020 was 254 or AL7. Under AL system, AL8 can go as low as 247 if there is an AL5 subject in the mix.Veyron\" post_id=\"2048400\" time=\"1637847975\" user_id=\"30663:
[quote=infinitz post_id=2048398 time=1637847503 user_id=143949]My son got 8(P) and we stay in the west. No chance for NJC?
Very low chance for NJC partly also due to its centralized location.
In the west, better choose RVHS
Just wondering, how do u know AL8 can be as low as 247? The lowest permutation i can get is 251 (65 + 90 + 90 + 90 )/4*3[/quote]your 3/4 raw to tscore conversion is incorrect -
iRabbit\" post_id=\"2048461\" time=\"1637854356\" user_id=\"51587:
I came up with a simpler example.
Yours is a tricky scenario. It would have been easier for me if School A and B are actual school names so that I don’t have to keep recalling which one is SAP and which is not.brfish\" post_id=\"2048447\" time=\"1637852916\" user_id=\"102306:
How does the tie breaker work exactly?
I understand how the sequence and everything. But that's in single school situation. How does it work when there are multiple students and multiple schools?
Let's say there are two students, Joe Al 8D and Jill AL 8M. There are two schools, A and B, each with 1 seat left. A is SAP school and B is not. Joe and Jill are the only people competing for the last seat.
Joe's choices are:
1. RI (COP 6 so he didn't get in)
2. School B
3. School A
Jill's choices are:
1. School A
2. School B
From school A perspective, Joe is ahead with D in HCL. From school B perspective, both students are the same so need to ballot.
So will Joe places into A first, then Jill gets into B without need to ballot. Or do they ballot for school B first, and the one not getting it go to School A?
Also note in this situation the COP for school A would be different...
My interpretation is that both will need to ballot for school B if 8M is not good enough for school A. Mabbe others can confirm my understanding as this scenario is slightly mind boggling.
Suppose two students, one local and one foreigner, competing for last seat in Dunman High and Victoria.
The foreigner has AL 8D and his choices are
1. Victoria IP
2. Dunman High
The local student has AL 8M and his choices are
1. Dunman High
2. Victoria
Who goes to which school?
From Dunman High perspective, 8D is better than 8M so 8D should get it. From Victoria perspective, local student has priority so the local student should get it.
Or, MOE can let both students go to their first choice and everyone is happy -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2048280\" time=\"1637828112\" user_id=\"30663:
hi thanks for your quick reply. You raised a very good point regarding the COP for St Nic affiliation. Is it advantageous or disadvantageous in your opinion? As I know, 10~15% of top performers from O program might have the chance to be transferred to IP at the end of Sec2. If the COP is so low for those from afficliated, my DD might have a higher chance to get transferred? How do you feel?
AL8(D) is still ahead of AL8 and AL8 (M). So the chance should be highAngelahaha79\" post_id=\"2048270\" time=\"1637826244\" user_id=\"129267:
Hi all wise mommies and daddies out there, my DD has got 8+D and we stay at east. How high is our chance of getting into Dunman High? the cut-off point for Dunman is exactly 8+D. sigh...
Also, with regards to our second choice, would you recommend a 2nd tier IP school like TJC or O program from a 1st tier school, like St. Nicholas? what are the pros and cons between these 2 options that we need to bear in mind before coming into a decision?
Personally, I would go with TJC (AL9) or even SCGS instead of St Nich- O-level because at St Nic o-level affiliation COP is very low. -
iRabbit\" post_id=\"2048461\" time=\"1637854356\" user_id=\"51587:
I am not 100% sure, but as per my understanding, you are correct.
Yours is a tricky scenario. It would have been easier for me if School A and B are actual school names so that I don’t have to keep recalling which one is SAP and which is not.brfish\" post_id=\"2048447\" time=\"1637852916\" user_id=\"102306:
How does the tie breaker work exactly?
I understand how the sequence and everything. But that's in single school situation. How does it work when there are multiple students and multiple schools?
Let's say there are two students, Joe Al 8D and Jill AL 8M. There are two schools, A and B, each with 1 seat left. A is SAP school and B is not. Joe and Jill are the only people competing for the last seat.
Joe's choices are:
1. RI (COP 6 so he didn't get in)
2. School B
3. School A
Jill's choices are:
1. School A
2. School B
From school A perspective, Joe is ahead with D in HCL. From school B perspective, both students are the same so need to ballot.
So will Joe places into A first, then Jill gets into B without need to ballot. Or do they ballot for school B first, and the one not getting it go to School A?
Also note in this situation the COP for school A would be different...
My interpretation is that both will need to ballot for school B if 8M is not good enough for school A. Mabbe others can confirm my understanding as this scenario is slightly mind boggling.
It is because Joe listed School B as 2nd choice then he has to ballot with Jill for a place in School B. I mean, the system has to honor Joe's wish by giving him the chance of getting into school B before moving on to his 3rd choice.
From Jill's perspective, although she picked School A as first choice, since school A is SAP school, system has to prioritize AL8(D) before allocating AL8(M). Hence, Jill can't be assigned to School A before system knows the fate of Joe.
I can be wrong though. -
brfish\" post_id=\"2048447\" time=\"1637852916\" user_id=\"102306:
My guess is, since Joe and Jill are the only 2 people competing for the last seat in School A and School B, their AL score will define the COP for school for the year.
How does the tie breaker work exactly?
I understand how the sequence and everything. But that's in single school situation. How does it work when there are multiple students and multiple schools?
Let's say there are two students, Joe Al 8D and Jill AL 8M. There are two schools, A and B, each with 1 seat left. A is SAP school and B is not. Joe and Jill are the only people competing for the last seat.
Joe's choices are:
1. RI (COP 6 so he didn't get in)
2. School B
3. School A
Jill's choices are:
1. School A
2. School B
From school A perspective, Joe is ahead with D in HCL. From school B perspective, both students are the same so need to ballot.
So will Joe places into A first, then Jill gets into B without need to ballot. Or do they ballot for school B first, and the one not getting it go to School A?
Also note in this situation the COP for school A would be different...
Jill AL 8(M), School A 1st choice, will get in School A first. COP for School A = 8(M) for the year.
Joe AL 8, who chooses School B before School A, will get in School B, and COP for School B = 8 for the year.
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