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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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      siokhoon
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      Last year COP for both RGS and NYHS = 261 but why the AL COP is 6 and 7M respectively and not both 6? Is 7M due to affiliation and we should assume 6 for non affiliated kids?

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        [quote=darwinkoh post_id=2048542 time=1637891804 user_id=99637]

        Agree about the importance of Chinese... same as what I have been telling my kids.
        Jim Roger's younger DD is in class 111 or 112? Students in those 2 classes are all aiming for MSG = 1.00.

        My DD said it is 103, 203 next year. She said 101, 112 are elective program/talent prog classes, 102 and 103 are pure GEP students who DSA in. For those GEP students who got in through PSLE score , same as them in normal classes total 8 classes.

        She uses å°čœœčœ‚ as her chinese written name! Her english name is short formed Bee Roger, her bigger sister in HCJC is called Happy Roger.

        May I know what classes were the DSA students (academic) allocated to last year? mainstream pupils[/quote]Besides these 4 classes, the rest of DSA like bilingual, sports etc joined the common classes as the rest who got in through PSLE. My younger DD is one of them who got in through psle result. This stays on for sec 1 and 2, will be re-mix again in sec 3 based on subject selection and their merit. I don't remember there is any special class in RGS when my elder DD got in 3 years back, RGS mixed them together.

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          siokhoon\" post_id=\"2048654\" time=\"1637908988\" user_id=\"122732:

          Last year COP for both RGS and NYHS = 261 but why the AL COP is 6 and 7M respectively and not both 6? Is 7M due to affiliation and we should assume 6 for non affiliated kids?
          RGS and NYGH were both 261 in 2019 PSLE (2020 Sec 1). In 2020 PSLE (2021 Sec 1), RGS = 260, NYGH = 259. The NYGH 259 includes any combination of HCL bonus points (259+0, 258+1, 257+2, 256+3) and the HCL bonus points do not transfer over to the AL system and PSLE score on the four main subjects.

          There are other (potential) issues with trying to tie the Indicative AL COPs and Actual t-score COPs together. Maybe someone else will entertain you on this topic. Fortunately or unfortunately, I got out of that business a couple of months ago.

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            Twinkle2016
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            siokhoon\" post_id=\"2048654\" time=\"1637908988\" user_id=\"122732:

            Last year COP for both RGS and NYHS = 261 but why the AL COP is 6 and 7M respectively and not both 6? Is 7M due to affiliation and we should assume 6 for non affiliated kids?

            This is because some of those who entered nygh would have added the 1-3 points for HCL, meaning their t score before HCL bonus point could be as low as 258.

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              Veyron
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              siokhoon\" post_id=\"2048654\" time=\"1637908988\" user_id=\"122732:

              Last year COP for both RGS and NYHS = 261 but why the AL COP is 6 and 7M respectively and not both 6? Is 7M due to affiliation and we should assume 6 for non affiliated kids?
              There can be a few reasons for that. The most obvious one is simply the last student who admitted to NYGH is 261 t-scores, but AL7 AL score.

              e.g. AL 1 1 2, 3 or AL 1 1 1 4. But the overall t-score is high because AL1 covers from 90 to 100.

              if a AL7 student score 99 99 99 79, his or her t-score will be around 276

              FYI, MGS 257 = AL6

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                SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2048659\" time=\"1637909522\" user_id=\"188234:

                Maybe someone else will entertain you on this topic. Fortunately or unfortunately, I got out of that business a couple of months ago.
                šŸ˜„

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                  JamesSoverklas
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                  Hi all mummies & daddies,
                  Am new to this platform. I'm in a dilemma, my gal scored AL15 and she really wish to get into her first choice school with COP13. Should I risk and put it as my first choice?
                  Personally, I don't think is advisable to go for a AL - 2. This time round, we have to assume there will be more applicants having COP 13... This time round, there will be balloting. because more equal ALs. Having a AL -2... I think the chances is very very slim. If -1, I think you can try.

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                    The foreigner has AL 8D and his choices are
                    1. Victoria IP
                    2. Dunman High

                    The local student has AL 8M and his choices are
                    1. Dunman High
                    2. Victoria

                    Who goes to which school?

                    Feels that this is simpler.

                    Foreigner will get into Dunman High, and local student will get into Victoria IP.

                    Thoughts:
                    * From Victoria perspective: 2 AL8 students (foreigner with 1st choice v local with 2nd choice) -- local get in first.
                    * From Dunman perspective: AL8D beats AL8M. Foreigner will get in based on merit.
                    * No balloting required

                    Imagine the case in which the local student gets into Dunman High with AL8(M) . This means system will not be consistent, since based on merit, AL8(D) beats AL8(M). The AL8(D) may appeal, when COP of Dunman High is released to be AL8(M).

                    Although a local has advantage over foreigner, I think the foreigner with 8(D) gets to select (SAP sec) school first before local with 8(M) ??

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                      [quote=floppy post_id=2048609 time=1637902769 user_id=97579]Lowest possible raw score for AL8 is AL 1 1 1 5 ( 90+90+90+65) = 335
                      > This is correct.

                      If we translate that to 2020 t-score it will be around 246.4
                      > This is iffy.

                      Without knowing the mean1 to mean4, as well as sigma1 to sigma4, this is only speculative and purely guesswork.

                      You can use the below information provided by MOE to determine the iffyness of my calculation. it may not be 0.001 precision but it shouldnt be far.

                      Indicative COP / actual t-score cop for 2020
                      AL6\t257-261
                      AL7 254-257
                      AL8\t251-255
                      AL9\t250

                      ESIS = 261
                      ESIS = AL5

                      Is the above (iffy part) really from MOE? I may have missed this announcement, as all the while I understood that was calculated by your assumed Tscore factor (Eg 0.73xx to 0.74xx)?[/quote]The above is a list of actual 2020 t-score COP grouped together by 2020 indicative AL COP. (MOE)

                      AL6 COP = RGS 261, RI 259, MGS 257.
                      AL7 COP = NYGH (261) , St Nic (257) ACS(I) 256 and NJC 254

                      AL6 to AL7, the difference in lowest possible score is exactly 5 marks and that will equate to around 3.6xx t-score.

                      So for AL5, it should be around 257+3.6xx = approx 261.

                      ESIS COP = 261 = AL5.

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                        Unicorn33
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                        Dear All,


                        Need some advice. My DS got 11P for his PSLE result. He is considering the following schools:

                        First choice: Chung Cheng Main (6M - 11M)
                        2nd Choice: Nan Chiau (4M - 11M)
                        3rd Choice: Maris Stella (7M - 12)

                        Will he have a chance to get in his first 2 choices?

                        Thank you for the advice.

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