2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

[Veyron]

Umaashok\" post_id=\"2048705\" time=\"1637918119\" user_id=\"181133:

Hi My DD scored AL 9 . Is it risk to put 1. NJC (cop 7)
2. Crescent (cop 11)
3. Swiss ( cop 11).
I am staying in west. Pls advise if I put NJC as first choice, is it a risk?
Also bit confused between swiss and crescent. Which would be a better ?
Tks in advance.

Dont waste your first choice on NJC because there is no chance NJC cop will slip from AL7 to AL9. Historically NJC COP has never hit the low of 250.

If your DD wishes to try her luck, better try for AL8 COP IP school, e.g. SCGS Cedar
Or other O Level track school with AL8/9 COP

[MerlionInGermany]

JGMum\" post_id=\"2048696\" time=\"1637916177\" user_id=\"2001:

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2048646\" time=\"1637908573\" user_id=\"2964:

[quote=JanelleTan post_id=2048607 time=1637902673 user_id=162702]My daughter scored 8(M) and has affliation to NYGH whose indicative COP is 8(M) for affliated students. May i ask what are her chances? Do affliated students get priority over other students who scored better AL scores? Appreciate any insights.

I think you should have been informed about the AMR. If the AMR is 8M, then you put nygh as first choice, and the total number of nyps who put nygh as first choice is within the quota, then you should get in. If quota set aside for nyps who put nygh as first choice, is filled by 8D and better, then you will not get in.

Do affliated students get priority over other students who scored better AL scores?
Nygh sets aside a fixed number of vacancies for the nyps students, this number is according to the percentage dictated by MOE. This percentage thing is the same as 2019 and 2020 psle.

I was wondering how affiliation works under the new AL system. Thanks for clarifying.
Would affiliated schools like St Nicks OP, Catholic High OP, Paya Lebar Methodist, etc. use the same system?
That is, set aside a fixed percentage dictated by MOE for affiliated students, and not admit all students who meet the indicative affiliated COP, unless number of affiliated students who choose the sec school < MOE quota?[/quote]You are right.
Same system for all sec schools taking in students from their affiliated pri sch under affiliation route.
The flow chart is, meet AMR? Yes.
Put as first choice? Yes.
Ranked by score.
Quota reached? Not yet. Welcome.
Quota reached? Yes. Join S1 posting with everyone else.

[MerlionInGermany]

Umaashok\" post_id=\"2048717\" time=\"1637919476\" user_id=\"181133:

Hi DD scored AL 9. We are staying in west.pls advise if my choice of order is wrong.
1.NJC (cop 7)
2. Crescent (11)
3. Swiss (11 )
4. Commonwealth ( 12)
5. Bukit panjang (11)
6. St.Magret (12)
Is NJC wrong choice for us or can I just give a try.
Also confused between choice of crescent and swiss. Which would be the better choice.
Pls Advise.

Between Crescent and Swiss Cottage, I would pick Crescent.

[soloestoy]

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2048718\" time=\"1637919546\" user_id=\"3:

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2048713\" time=\"1637918774\" user_id=\"17023:

Is it correct to say that the foreigner with 8(D) will be considered first before the local with 8(M) , if both students put DHS as 1st Choice.

However, if both of them put VS as 1st choice, then priority will be given to the local student.

The foreigner scored better than the local student. So he should get the priority regardless of whether it is VS or Dunman. Or am I confused :scratchhead:
Oh wait... Dunman is a SAP school while VS is not... so I think you are right.

VS perspective they have the same score so need tie breaker and local wins
DHS perspective foreigner scored better than local

[Zeal mummy]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2048713\" time=\"1637918774\" user_id=\"17023:

Is it correct to say that the foreigner with 8(D) will be considered first before the local with 8(M) , if both students put DHS as 1st Choice.

However, if both of them put VS as 1st choice, then priority will be given to the local student.

There’s no certainty as we are speculating based on last year’s results & choices. Assume the data last year is still the accurate this year,

(Last year, the last child admitted to DH was 8D, VS was 8.)

Then the foreigner who scored 8D, could have been -
1. Admitted into DH,
2. subjected to balloting at DH
3. If ballot was unsuccessful, move to his next choice.

No chance for Singaporean child who scored 8M. DH is a SAP school, takes account of HCL score.

However .. Yes, if both put VS as first choice. Singaporean gets allocated to VS, since they both meet the cut off of 8.

[soloestoy]

MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2048721\" time=\"1637919938\" user_id=\"2964:

Umaashok\" post_id=\"2048717\" time=\"1637919476\" user_id=\"181133:

Hi DD scored AL 9. We are staying in west.pls advise if my choice of order is wrong.
1.NJC (cop 7)
2. Crescent (11)
3. Swiss (11 )
4. Commonwealth ( 12)
5. Bukit panjang (11)
6. St.Magret (12)
Is NJC wrong choice for us or can I just give a try.
Also confused between choice of crescent and swiss. Which would be the better choice.
Pls Advise.

Between Crescent and Swiss Cottage, I would pick Crescent.

Girl school VS Co-ed, what's your child's preference?
Home-school distance very important too, coz it's daily 2-way x 4 years.

[soloestoy]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2048713\" time=\"1637918774\" user_id=\"17023:

JGMum\" post_id=\"2048708\" time=\"1637918400\" user_id=\"2001:

[quote=ChiefKiasu post_id=2048697 time=1637916588 user_id=3]

Interesting, but confusing problem. It doesn't make much sense for the local student to get VS since that is not what he wants. I thought the tie-breakers come into play only when the 2 students have the same schools at the same priority level? ie. both of them specify VS as their 1st choice??

Yes, very confusing. My guess is that there would be some programming in the algorithm that would \"override\" the \"logic loop\", and the end outcome should hopefully be \"Foreigner gets Victoria IP (his first choice)\" and \"local student gets Dunman High (his first choice)\". Again, I am guessing so I might be wrong. :xedfingers:

Is it correct to say that the foreigner with 8(D) will be considered first before the local with 8(M) , if both students put DHS as 1st Choice.

However, if both of them put VS as 1st choice, then priority will be given to the local student.[/quote]Citizenship tie-breaker comes before choice order, so does not matter if local did not put VS as 1st choice.

[m3i_m3i]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2048713\" time=\"1637918774\" user_id=\"17023:

JGMum\" post_id=\"2048708\" time=\"1637918400\" user_id=\"2001:

[quote=ChiefKiasu post_id=2048697 time=1637916588 user_id=3]

Interesting, but confusing problem. It doesn't make much sense for the local student to get VS since that is not what he wants. I thought the tie-breakers come into play only when the 2 students have the same schools at the same priority level? ie. both of them specify VS as their 1st choice??

Yes, very confusing. My guess is that there would be some programming in the algorithm that would \"override\" the \"logic loop\", and the end outcome should hopefully be \"Foreigner gets Victoria IP (his first choice)\" and \"local student gets Dunman High (his first choice)\". Again, I am guessing so I might be wrong. :xedfingers:

Is it correct to say that the foreigner with 8(D) will be considered first before the local with 8(M) , if both students put DHS as 1st Choice.

However, if both of them put VS as 1st choice, then priority will be given to the local student.[/quote]Merit come first before citizenship & choice order

So foreigner 8(D) will get first before SC 8(M) to SAP school like DHS
Although the foreigner 8(D) put DHS as 6th choice and the SC 8(M) put DHS as 1st choice

For non SAP school like VS, there's no HCL priority, SC 8 w/o HCL will get first before foreigner 8(D)
Although the foreigner 8(D) put VS as 1st choice and the SC 8 put VS as 6th choice.

[Umaashok]

:thankyou: same travel time. Straight bus to swiss. Have to take train and then a bus for crescent.

That's why confused.
Thanks in advance.

[ChiefKiasu]

soloestoy\" post_id=\"2048726\" time=\"1637920301\" user_id=\"56690:

Citizenship tie-breaker comes before choice order, so does not matter if local did not put VS as 1st choice.

Now I'm getting more confused. Let's go back to the original problem where the students do not have the same schools in the same priority, ie. Foreigner has Victoria as the first choice and Local has Dunman as his first choice. Are you saying that the local guy will get Victoria while the foreigner gets Dunman, just like iRabbit says?