2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

[CCK2008]

Suj\" post_id=\"2053174\" time=\"1640333083\" user_id=\"130767:

I wonder anyone dared to apply MGS Ip as its indicative cutoff was AL6 with AL7 and got admission into it.

Why not. Based on last year mgs cop for the last student of 258, this can be AL6 or AL7.

Anyway, u can see the cop for schools did not really deviate much from last year, I guess the raw scores are moderated to fit in the usual distribution, which I believed was done all the while. It is difficult to score above 90 marks for some subjects especially English. My DD never did score anything above 90 for English and science in pri 5 & 6 including prelim. But when last year psle results are released, she got A* for both these subjects as well, so I believe the raw score is moderated.

I believe no of AL4, AL5, AL6 are fixed in this way.

[CCK2008]

Suj\" post_id=\"2053174\" time=\"1640333083\" user_id=\"130767:

I wonder anyone dared to apply MGS Ip as its indicative cutoff was AL6 with AL7 and got admission into it.

Why not. Based on last year mgs cop for the last student of 258, this can be AL6 or AL7.

Anyway, u can see the cop for schools did not really deviate much from last year, I guess the raw scores are moderated to fit in the usual distribution, which I believed was done all the while. It is difficult to score above 90 marks for some subjects especially English. My DD never did score anything above 90 for English and science in pri 5 & 6 including prelim. But when last year psle results are released, she got A* for both these subjects as well, so I believe the raw score is moderated.

I believe no of AL4, AL5, AL6 are fixed in this way.

[Veyron]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2053203\" time=\"1640346170\" user_id=\"17023:

Yes, those with a bigger risk appetite and got balloted into MGS at AL7 (indicative cop AL6), should rejoice this Christmas.

But if I were one of next batch parents, I doubt I would do the same as MGS has always been a hot favorite. Next year its COP could just move up back to AL6.

The reason why I think MGS COP dropped to AL7 this time round could be due to its affiliated MGS primary school girls not doing as well this year (hearsay from a MGS mummy whose DD didn’t do well).

in one of your earlier post didn't you suggest to try for schools with AL COP 1 point lower than result?
e.g AL7 trying to AL6 COP school?

what caused you to change ?

[lee_yl]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2053229\" time=\"1640353764\" user_id=\"30663:

in one of your earlier post didn't you suggest to try for schools with AL COP 1 point lower than result?
e.g AL7 trying to AL6 COP school?

what caused you to change ?

It all depends on the individual’s risk appetite. So those who listened to me earlier could have gotten into MGS with AL7…

[Veyron]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2053230\" time=\"1640354217\" user_id=\"17023:

It all depends on the individual’s risk appetite. So those who listened to me earlier could have gotten into MGS with AL7…

This is what you wrote. A more logical way? So now it's not so logical?

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2049297#p2049297

[SG_KP1]

CCK2008\" post_id=\"2053224\" time=\"1640353484\" user_id=\"26004:

Why not. Based on last year mgs cop for the last student of 258, this can be AL6 or AL7.

Anyway, u can see the cop for schools did not really deviate much from last year, I guess the raw scores are moderated to fit in the usual distribution, which I believed was done all the while. It is difficult to score above 90 marks for some subjects especially English. My DD never did score anything above 90 for English and science in pri 5 & 6 including prelim. But when last year psle results are released, she got A* for both these subjects as well, so I believe the raw score is moderated.

I believe no of AL4, AL5, AL6 are fixed in this way.

The raw scores under AL are NOT moderated. MOE has stated so on webinars.

Others have also posted prior info on A* being fixed at 91 as well. Granted, the referenced docs are from many years ago, and I am aware of the large number of parents that can't figure out how their kid possibly scored A* in certain subjects. I don't have a definitive view on this one, but I am more likely to think A* was still fixed at 91.

If the students were not big into practice exams and tuition during P1-P5, they can make up a lot of ground in the June - Sept period before PSLE; during this period you don't need to learn anything new and can just concentrate on pulling up the weaker areas within each subject. If your child did a fair amount of PSLE prep with specific focus on challenging areas, the scores could come back better. I know of a fair number of like kids this year that were always AL6-AL7 in primary school and came back AL4 on PSLE. And again, MOE has told us that score is NOT moderated so they broke 90 at PSLE on all four papers.

[lee_yl]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2053232\" time=\"1640355382\" user_id=\"30663:

This is what you wrote. A more logical way? So now it's not so logical?

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2049297#p2049297

Stop quoting me out of context !!!

My earlier post talked about clustering choices of school of indicative COP AL10 to AL12 for a AL10 pointer.

The other post is about taking a risk to get into one’s dream school even if the indicative COP is 1 point lower than one’s PSLE AL score. This option depends on one’s risk appetite.

Two different strategies with different contexts, no need to nitpick and choose to selectively ignore the context.

[CCK2008]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2053234\" time=\"1640356013\" user_id=\"188234:

The raw scores under AL are NOT moderated. MOE has stated so on webinars.

Others have also posted prior info on A* being fixed at 91 as well. Granted, the referenced docs are from many years ago, and I am aware of the large number of parents that can't figure out how their kid possibly scored A* in certain subjects. I don't have a definitive view on this one, but I am more likely to think A* was still fixed at 91.

If the students were not big into practice exams and tuition during P1-P5, they can make up a lot of ground in the June - Sept period before PSLE; during this period you don't need to learn anything new and can just concentrate on pulling up the weaker areas within each subject. If your child did a fair amount of PSLE prep with specific focus on challenging areas, the scores could come back better. I know of a fair number of like kids this year that were always AL6-AL7 in primary school and came back AL4 on PSLE. And again, MOE has told us that score is NOT moderated so they broke 90 at PSLE on all four papers.

My DD told me in her last year prelim exam, nobody in her class goes beyond 90 for English, although her class is top class in the neighborhood school. But coming to psle actual score, a good 10 of them got A* for English. I don't know how to explain that. Unless the marking standard is quite different from her primary school, but her school teachers are also among the psle markers.

[Veyron]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2053235\" time=\"1640356602\" user_id=\"17023:

Stop quoting me out of context !!!

My earlier post talked about clustering choices of school of indicative COP AL10 to AL12 for a AL10 pointer.

The other post is about taking a risk to get into one’s dream school even if the indicative COP is 1 point lower than one’s PSLE AL score. This option depends on one’s risk appetite.

Two different strategies with different contexts, no need to nitpick and choose to selectively ignore the context.

I am quoting your entire post, nothing out of context.
This is what you shared.

A more logical way can be
1) COP of AL 10 or an AL9 school if it is the child’s dream school)
2) COP of AL 10
3). COP of AL 10
4). COP of AL 11
5). COP AL 11
6). COP AL 12 or AL 13.

Based on the above strategy, I would say that choice 1 2 and 3 could have been wasted.

[lee_yl]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2052587\" time=\"1640135410\" user_id=\"30663:

a) MOE simulation is based on 2020 S1 posting outcome
b) MOE simulation doesnt change or alter the choice or order of schools

Under 2021 AL S1 posting, the pool of students with the same AL result will be much bigger, which mean more students will be competing for the same top or more popular schools

The part in blue. Please show proof on what you claimed earlier.