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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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    • VeyronV Offline
      Veyron
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      lee_yl\" post_id=\"2053235\" time=\"1640356602\" user_id=\"17023:

      Stop quoting me out of context !!!

      My earlier post talked about clustering choices of school of indicative COP AL10 to AL12 for a AL10 pointer.

      The other post is about taking a risk to get into one’s dream school even if the indicative COP is 1 point lower than one’s PSLE AL score. This option depends on one’s risk appetite.

      Two different strategies with different contexts, no need to nitpick and choose to selectively ignore the context.
      I am quoting your entire post, nothing out of context.
      This is what you shared.

      A more logical way can be
      1) COP of AL 10 or an AL9 school if it is the child’s dream school)
      2) COP of AL 10
      3). COP of AL 10
      4). COP of AL 11
      5). COP AL 11
      6). COP AL 12 or AL 13.

      Based on the above strategy, I would say that choice 1 2 and 3 could have been wasted.

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      • lee_ylL Offline
        lee_yl
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        Veyron\" post_id=\"2052587\" time=\"1640135410\" user_id=\"30663:

        a) MOE simulation is based on 2020 S1 posting outcome
        b) MOE simulation doesnt change or alter the choice or order of schools

        Under 2021 AL S1 posting, the pool of students with the same AL result will be much bigger, which mean more students will be competing for the same top or more popular schools
        The part in blue. Please show proof on what you claimed earlier.

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        • Liew Nga WingL Offline
          Liew Nga Wing
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2053238\" time=\"1640357555\" user_id=\"17023:

          The part in blue. Please show proof on what you claimed earlier.
          Could we just stop this topic here? I don't want the Chief gets angry and close this thread again.
          Please.

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          • SG_KP1S Offline
            SG_KP1
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            CCK2008\" post_id=\"2053236\" time=\"1640356905\" user_id=\"26004:

            My DD told me in her last year prelim exam, nobody in her class goes beyond 90 for English, although her class is top class in the neighborhood school. But coming to psle actual score, a good 10 of them got A* for English. I don't know how to explain that. Unless the marking standard is quite different from her primary school, but her school teachers are also among the psle markers.
            Yeah, I understand, and as mentioned I am not 100% sure here either. You can read in the post below where people talked about 70% of kids getting A or A* in normal CL, which seems odd given how many people struggle with MT (CL specifically). A grade was 75-90 so the MT percentage is the one that sticks out a lot (recently, MOE said about half the cohort scores above ~75 for each subject). Unfortunately, I don't think this data set is available anymore at data.gov.sg (only A* - C, which isn't helpful for this).

            Thus, it is possible the A* (and A) letter grades were awarded to a wider range of actual raw marks in recent years, depending on the subject. I don't think this is the case but it isn't something I would entirely rule out either (not withstanding the posts referencing prior info about A*). In the end, the letter grades awarded under t-score were kind of meaningless and just for show. The actual score was what mattered (vs. the actual mean and actual standard deviation) to get the subject t-score.

            Regardless, I think it is quite clear that AL is raw marks only.

            https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92230&start=160

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            • lee_ylL Offline
              lee_yl
              last edited by

              Veyron\" post_id=\"2053237\" time=\"1640357368\" user_id=\"30663:

              I am quoting your entire post, nothing out of context.
              This is what you shared.

              A more logical way can be
              1) COP of AL 10 or an AL9 school if it is the child’s dream school)
              2) COP of AL 10
              3). COP of AL 10
              4). COP of AL 11
              5). COP AL 11
              6). COP AL 12 or AL 13.

              Based on the above strategy, I would say that choice 1 2 and 3 could have been wasted.
              As usual, you choose to misinterpret my response. Context, since you appear not to understand the term, is the background (and posts in our case) that set the stage. The above was my reply to Floppy. The context was about an AL10 student sharing her school choices:
              1). AL10
              2). AL11
              3). AL12
              4). AL13
              5). AL14
              6). AL15.
              I remembered I asked you what would be the chances of this AL10 student ending up her 6th choice, an AL15 school, as usual, you did not provide a satisfactory answer.

              To me, a more logical way is to pick schools with COP clustered around AL10 to AL12.

              And if you think my 1,2,3 would have been wasted, that is your own opinion. To those risk takers AL7 pointers who dared to list down a school with COP 1 point lower (MGS), have proven you wrong.

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              • Liew Nga WingL Offline
                Liew Nga Wing
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                Veyron\" post_id=\"2053237\" time=\"1640357368\" user_id=\"30663:

                I am quoting your entire post, nothing out of context.
                This is what you shared.
                Don't try to push other to a corner during this Christmas Celebration. Please.

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                • VeyronV Offline
                  Veyron
                  last edited by

                  lee_yl\" post_id=\"2053241\" time=\"1640359641\" user_id=\"17023:

                  As usual, you choose to misinterpret my response. Context, since you appear not to understand the term, is the background (and posts in our case) that set the stage. The above was my reply to Floppy. The context was about an AL10 student sharing her school choices:
                  1). AL10
                  2). AL11
                  3). AL12
                  4). AL13
                  5). AL14
                  6). AL15.
                  I remembered I asked you what would be the chances of this AL10 student ending up her 6th choice, an AL15 school, as usual, you did not provide a satisfactory answer.

                  To me, a more logical way is to pick schools with COP clustered around AL10 to AL12.

                  And if you think my 1,2,3 would have been wasted, that is your own opinion. To those risk takers AL7 pointers who dared to list down a school with COP 1 point lower (MGS), have proven you wrong.
                  On the contrary I am actually proven right with MGS AL7.

                  https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2048873#p2048873

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                  • Liew Nga WingL Offline
                    Liew Nga Wing
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                    lee_yl\" post_id=\"2053241\" time=\"1640359641\" user_id=\"17023:


                    And if you think my 1,2,3 would have been wasted, that is your own opinion. To those risk takers AL7 pointers who dared to list down a school with COP 1 point lower (MGS), have proven you wrong.
                    Could we stop this \"right\" or \"wrong here? I don't want the Chief to get angry and close this thread also. Please.

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                    • E Offline
                      eaglewing95
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                      Hi Parents,


                      Pertaining to the moderation of PSLE scores, I checked in SEAB website and the following is the explanation, if you can see, there was one part that mentioned this
                      "grading takes into consideration paper difficulty and the quality of candidates’ work…"


                      1.
                      Are bell curves used in grading the PSLE?

                      We would like to clarify that grades awarded to candidates taking the PSLE are not based on pre-determined percentage of candidates for certain grades (i.e. bell curves). Instead, grading takes into consideration various factors such as the paper difficulty and the quality of candidates’ work, so as to maintain standards across years

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                      • lee_ylL Offline
                        lee_yl
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                        Veyron\" post_id=\"2053244\" time=\"1640359952\" user_id=\"30663:

                        On the contrary I am actually proven right with MGS AL7.

                        https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2048873#p2048873
                        What have you proven actually? The whole world knows that schools’ COP fluctuate. You also “prove” RGS COP could be AL5”? All these are just speculation, definitely not proof

                        Could you shed more light on why my earlier advice about clustering is a waste of the choices?

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