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    How much is enough for retirement in Singapore?

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    • Liew Nga WingL Offline
      Liew Nga Wing
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      In Chinese it is a phase called "成事不说",since the incident has already happened three (3) years ago and now there is no way we can hold the stupid doctor responsibility for his misdiagnosis, if we still keep on talking about it …may make the victim recall all the past terrible experience and past anger out. What is the purpose for that?

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        Funz
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        Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2059705\" time=\"1645612447\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2059705 time=1645612447 user_id=195250]
        In Chinese it is a phase called \"成事不说\",since the incident has already happened three (3) years ago and now there is no way we can hold the stupid doctor responsibility for his misdiagnosis, if we stilll keep on talking about it ....may make the victim recall all the past terrible experience out. What is the purpose for that?[/quote]
        So that others can learn from this and not assume that the doctor is always right. Just because the incident has pass does not mean that it holds no meaning. While it may not be right to stoke whatever unhappiness that incident has caused, it is also not right to dismiss that party's experience and say 3yrs already don't need to talk about it anymore. Moving on does not mean they cannot mention it.

        If we literally \"成事不说\", then study history for what?

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        • Liew Nga WingL Offline
          Liew Nga Wing
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          Funz\" post_id=\"2059708\" time=\"1645613459\" user_id=\"6230:


          If we literally \"成事不说\", then study history for what?
          You may misunderstanding the correct meaning of \"成事不说\" from 论语,maybe Chenlaoshi can help to further explain on it.

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          • S Offline
            Sun_2010
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            ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2059699\" time=\"1645609688\" user_id=\"3:

            Lol. When I went to the hospital for the first time, it was already a sign of the stroke. The pain was unbearable. The doctor should have done something more than just attributing it to 'vertigo'. Oh well, at least I now know which hospitals NOT to go to.
            OMG, he still didnt order an MRI ?
            This is more than disappointing. Perhaps it happens for a few cases but it shouldn't. They should err on the side of caution.

            While one can say you were lucky, you managed to survive and get back to normalcy, what about the struggle and worry you and your family experienced for months? All because one doc didn't exercise proper judgement.

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            • S Offline
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              Schootopia\" post_id=\"2059715\" time=\"1645620080\" user_id=\"143961:

              If you have a very bad headache and suspect something's very wrong up there, you can ask for an immediate brain MRI. If you are willing to pay for it.

              But it's not likely a scan will pick up anything until the vessel really kaput. Unless there is something else abnormal, e.g. growth.

              If you consider the cost of a MRI and the fact that you are not showing other symptoms of functional impairment, e.g. limp weakness, it's probably not wrong for a young doctor not to order a check on the brain immediately.

              One of the reasons for headache is increased intracranial blood pressure. For some old people, it is postural. When they stand, gravity pulls the blood down. When they lie flat, the blood distribution to the head increase. So they have nocturnal headache.

              Your HR and BP increase during exercise. If the vessel wall is weak, a sudden increase may just be what's needed to bust it and precipitate the stroke.
              He had an unbearable headache. An MRI Stroke screen would probably have picked it up if not a CT scan.
              I was told a brain MRI is different from MRI stroke screen. ( got the two done for my mom recently)
              I am not saying making that call would be so easy but he should not have been sent home when something looked very wrong.

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              • ChiefKiasuC Offline
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                Schootopia\" post_id=\"2059715\" time=\"1645620080\" user_id=\"143961:

                If you have a very bad headache and suspect something's very wrong up there, you can ask for an immediate brain MRI. If you are willing to pay for it.

                But it's not likely a scan will pick up anything until the vessel really kaput. Unless there is something else abnormal, e.g. growth.

                If you consider the cost of a MRI and the fact that you are not showing other symptoms of functional impairment, e.g. limp weakness, it's probably not wrong for a young doctor not to order a check on the brain immediately.

                One of the reasons for headache is increased intracranial blood pressure. For some old people, it is postural. When they stand, gravity pulls the blood down. When they lie flat, the blood distribution to the head increase. So they have nocturnal headache.

                Your HR and BP increase during exercise. If the vessel wall is weak, a sudden increase may just be what's needed to bust it and precipitate the stroke.
                Lol. My headache was so bad that I had to be stretchered into the room. I don't think anyone in his right mind would want to go to ER in a hospital for a simple headache. Even if it was right for the doctor to say I had some kind of vertigo, it took them 6 MONTHS to schedule me to SEE a \"brain\" doctor, and not even a brain scan. Isn't half a year a tad too long?

                And you are saying it's my fault for exercising and I caused the stroke. Well, we will never know, but I will ALWAYS believe that it was the regular exercising that saved my life 🙂

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                • S Offline
                  sushi88
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                  ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2059737\" time=\"1645662201\" user_id=\"3:

                  Lol. My headache was so bad that I had to be stretchered into the room. I don't think anyone in his right mind would want to go to ER in a hospital for a simple headache. Even if it was right for the doctor to say I had some kind of vertigo, it took them 6 MONTHS to schedule me to SEE a \"brain\" doctor, and not even a brain scan. Isn't half a year a tad too long?

                  And you are saying it's my fault for exercising and I caused the stroke. Well, we will never know, but I will ALWAYS believe that it was the regular exercising that saved my life 🙂
                  I had vertigo before.
                  Actually vertigo is not about pain but the spinning of the head...I did not feel pain....it's out of balance kind of feel...even when the eyes are closed, one can feel the world is spinning. When I got up, it's worse...I felt as if I had spun one round and back, it's actually a bed-ridden kind of condition until the balance return but no pain.
                  It could have pain but that's not the real sign, the real sign was out of balance and spinning.
                  So how could it be vertigo when the pain was so bad without spinning? :?

                  6 months to schedule an appt for brain issue is seriously a tad too long... When I first detected my vertigo, I had a MRI scheduled within a few days but it was a private hospital then.

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                  • FunzF Offline
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                    A lot of more serious ailments masks itself in common symptoms. Similar issue with Dad.


                    He experienced some chest discomfort that is like gastric or heartburn. He went to the doctors a few times and each time they sent him home with antacids and told him indigestion and heartburn cos due to age the lower esophageal sphincter has weakened so gastric juices are flowing into his esophagus causing his symptoms. I guess because Dad did not have other major issues like the 三高, the doctors did not think to investigate further. After a couple of months of this, my dad knowing heartburn symptoms could be heart issues went to the doctor and insisted on a full work up. At that point the doctor was still advising him no need for that and it will be costly. Dad told the doc that he is a pensioner so cost is covered.

                    Well, good thing Dad insisted. The work up showed that Dad’s arteries were all over 75% blocked and the heart shows signs of mild heart attacks. He basically had a ticking timebomb in his chest. He was immediately referred to the heart specialist and a stent op was arranged and done. He was put on heart medications and blood thinners. All these were emergency stop gap measures while they scheduled him for further checks and tests for bypass.

                    Imagine if Dad had not gotten pushy with the doctors, he may not be around today. We could have lost over 10yrs with my Dad, countless memories and he may not have been around to see his 2 youngest grandchildren.

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                    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                      I remember my mom need take medication for the high cholesterol for a period of time but now no more… when she gets older she likes to eat fatty food like trotters…block butter, she likes to cut it into few thick slices, freeze then enjoy while watching tv… moon cake, I sitting can eat 1.5 if she doesn’t control herself.


                      For at least 1.5yrs she watched/read news on the covid cases and start talking like reciting the numbers all over the places with friends/relatives…guess it helps the brain in a way lol.

                      Now she plants veg. She cooks for her unmarried brother too as she wants him to reduce his time talking at coffee shops.

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                      • S Offline
                        sushi88
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                        Funz\" post_id=\"2059746\" time=\"1645667764\" user_id=\"6230:

                        A lot of more serious ailments masks itself in common symptoms. Similar issue with Dad.

                        He experienced some chest discomfort that is like gastric or heartburn. He went to the doctors a few times and each time they sent him home with antacids and told him indigestion and heartburn cos due to age the lower esophageal sphincter has weakened so gastric juices are flowing into his esophagus causing his symptoms. I guess because Dad did not have other major issues like the 三高, the doctors did not think to investigate further. After a couple of months of this, my dad knowing heartburn symptoms could be heart issues went to the doctor and insisted on a full work up. At that point the doctor was still advising him no need for that and it will be costly. Dad told the doc that he is a pensioner so cost is covered.

                        Well, good thing Dad insisted. The work up showed that Dad's arteries were all over 75% blocked and the heart shows signs of mild heart attacks. He basically had a ticking timebomb in his chest. He was immediately referred to the heart specialist and a stent op was arranged and done. He was put on heart medications and blood thinners. All these were emergency stop gap measures while they scheduled him for further checks and tests for bypass.

                        Imagine if Dad had not gotten pushy with the doctors, he may not be around today. We could have lost over 10yrs with my Dad, countless memories and he may not have been around to see his 2 youngest grandchildren.
                        The best indication is usually our gutfeel.... At the risk of being called a hypochondriac, it's still better to go with one's feeling of the body to do whatever tests that are required if finances permit. It's good that your Dad went with his gutfeel.

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