Mid-year exams to be scrapped in all primary, secondary schools by 2023

[Imp75]

Talking about project work, I am really impressed about the quality of the work done by my daughter and classmates because I have never seen or heard her spend time on it but yet when my hubs and I were asked to act like the panel of judges as a trial-run before the real thing, I was really impressed at the kind of output they could produce and deliver for contents that are nor even taught. I doubted my FYP at uni back then was as good as their PW now…they could articulate so smoothly in their presentation and I came to realise how far on education has progressed beyond my time Hahaha…

[Liew Nga Wing]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2061732\" time=\"1647409535\" user_id=\"17023:

All parents wish that their children do better than them. If ITE is the ultimate aim, then no need to come to KSP forum.

I can agree with you going to ITE is not the end of the world. I can also counsel my friend with success stories should his/her kid go to ITE. But don’t mind me being frank, will I send my own daughters to ITE?

The reason why I wrote the post on 16 Mar 22 midnight to Mum \"Nasi Lemak\" was because from her posts, I found that she was beginning to anxious and worry whether her kids would still can achieve good results for PSLE after the scrap of mid year exams. I didn't want her to be stress and hope she can think more positively, so I brought out my colleague ITE Story.

Whether you are willing to accept your kids to study in Poly/ITE or not, is your own topic not mine and therefore I don' know.

[phtthp]

Frankly speaking,

with the world getting so fluid now,

whether one graduated from first-class university or graduated from other less attractive, less glittering institution of higher learning, and with AI so aggressively entering the market place, making once-upon-a-time lucrative jobs disappear, redundant, jobs have become a big question mark. Your colleagues can be … robots.
So, even if don’t do well at PSLE, O level or A level, dont be so up tight.

Just like those good old days under LKY era time were gone forever, can never come back anymore, likewise going forward, the future of jobs are … ?

So what, if u do well in (Psle / O-level / A-level ) ?

[phtthp]

Imp75\" post_id=\"2061858\" time=\"1647500047\" user_id=\"2358:

Call me old school but when I hire staff (ie <10y exp), I usually look at what sec sch they came from and which uni they went.....usually won't go wrong w such criteria.....my hubby also hires a lot of finance staff too..... in his many years of working experience, a poly-unisim/acca grad really cannot be compared to NTU grad.....

If u are refering to NTU Accountancy graduates working as Finance professional today, who knows, maybe even Accountancy financial.positions (jobs), will also disappear one day, become redundant when AI take over. So, when u said that u are a Fincance professional, those good old days in The past, when u worked in the finance industry and earned high pay, may not repeat itself anymore, going forward into the future. Every batch or generation of people born in different era, faced different set of challenges, in a dynamic fluid changing world

Why ?

Because last time, decades ago, u were living in the pre-covid era !
But now, what happen ?
Your children are going to graduate, in the post covid era. Very different setting (environment ) !


Look ! Even some medical surgery jobs, are also taken over by robot (machine).

[Imp75]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2061907\" time=\"1647583399\" user_id=\"35251:

If u are refering to NTU Accountancy graduates working as Finance professional today, who knows, maybe even Accountancy financial.positions (jobs), will also disappear one day, become redundant when AI take over. So, when u said that u are a Fincance professional, those good old days in The past, when u worked in the finance industry and earned high pay, may not repeat itself anymore, going forward into the future. Every batch or generation of people born in different era, faced different set of challenges, in a dynamic fluid changing world

Why ?

Because last time, decades ago, u were living in the pre-covid era !
But now, what happen ?
Your children are going to graduate, in the post covid era. Very different setting (environment ) !


Look ! Even some medical surgery jobs, are also taken over by robot (machine).

I am not in the accounting line/accountant. From what you say, low level data crunching or processing jobs no need wait for AI, right now already outsourced to low cost countries. There are some things like interpretation and application of accounting standards which AI cannot do ba. That's why accountants are professionals just like lawyers.....also you need a human to feed or specify the parameters for AI to work.

[Liew Nga Wing]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2061906\" time=\"1647583063\" user_id=\"35251:

Frankly speaking,
with the world getting so fluid now, whether one graduated from first-class university or graduated from other less attractive, less glittering institution of higher learning, and with AI so aggressively entering the market place, making once-upon-a-time lucrative jobs redundant, jobs have become a big question mark. So, even if don't do well at PSLE, O level or A level, dont be so up tight

We still need to have lot of IT experts graduated from University or Polytechnic to set up the AI.

[phtthp]

Imp75\" post_id=\"2061908\" time=\"1647586106\" user_id=\"2358:

I am not in the accounting line/accountant. From what you say, low level data crunching or processing jobs no need wait for AI, right now already outsourced to low cost countries. There are some things like interpretation and application of accounting standards which AI cannot do ba. That's why accountants are professionals just like lawyers.....also you need a human to feed or specify the parameters for AI to work.

Not just number crunching Accounting data, if u look at robots (Sophia and Grace), many manual jobs can disappear

https://www.scmp.com/video/hong-kong/3136719/meet-grace-health-care-robot-created-coronavirus-crisis

I don't know what profession, you previously were working in. But if you want your kids finishing A-level soon in Hwa Chong Junior College, to end up in a similar job nature industry as u (parents), it may not happen. Why ?
Because going forward,
many job scope either have disappeared, or will change drastically.

Example

Recall.
Back then,
after uni graduarion, when u were working in the 1980s or 1990s or 2000s or 2010s, during the pre covid era, how common was this \"work from home \" scenario ? Rare ? seldom heard of ?

Now, what happen, from year 2020 onwards ?

It is so common, \"to work from home\"

[phtthp]

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2061909\" time=\"1647587140\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2061909 time=1647587140 user_id=195250]
We still need to have lot of IT experts graduated from University or Polytechnic to set up the AI.[/quote]

so many teenagers nowadays, after received their O-level results, have flocked to the various Polytechnic to study AI.

Studying a course, is one thing. But, to work with robots as your colleagues, is another.

[sharonkhoo]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2061911\" time=\"1647590895\" user_id=\"35251:

I don't know what profession, you previously were working in. But if you want your kids finishing A-level soon in Hwa Chong Junior College, to end up in a similar job nature industry as u (parents), it may not happen. Why ?
Because going forward,
many job scope either have disappeared, or will change drastically.

I agree with this point. I graduated in the 80s, and yes, many of the jobs then have changed beyond recognition. Even jobs that still persist have changed in the way they are performed, the equipment used, the workflows, etc. And new jobs have appeared that were unimaginable in those days.

All the more, education has to be about understanding, thinking, learning how to learn (often without being \"taught\"), being adaptable. I would argue that the constant cry from employers for \"ready for work\" employees should not be encouraged - they should be prepared to take in people who are willing to learn on the job, and are prepared to change and adapt as necessary. Employees will then be less likely to find themselves \"outdated\" as long as they are willing to learn and adapt (and employers are willing to provide opportunites for them to learn and adapt).

I find that, increasingly, even the IHLs are pandering to the cry for \"ready for work\" employees by making their courses more and more targeted and vocational - that is not going to prepare a resilient and adaptable workforce. There will always be a portion of the workforce that must be taught the tasks very specifically - that's what vocational training is for. But IHLs (note the word \"higher\") should not go down that road.

[lee_yl]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2061906\" time=\"1647583063\" user_id=\"35251:

Frankly speaking,
with the world getting so fluid now,

whether one graduated from first-class university or graduated from other less attractive, less glittering institution of higher learning, and with AI so aggressively entering the market place, making once-upon-a-time lucrative jobs disappear, redundant, jobs have become a big question mark. Your colleagues can be ... robots.
So, even if don't do well at PSLE, O level or A level, dont be so up tight.

Just like those good old days under LKY era time were gone forever, can never come back anymore, likewise going forward, the future of jobs are ... ?

So what, if u do well in (Psle / O-level / A-level ) ?

Don’t be so uptight if kids don’t do well at PSLE, O/A levels? Then why parents bother to look for tuition, transfer kids from non affiliated pri sch to one with affiliation as backup in case PSLE results not good, plus try for DSA into better schools?

AI is here to replace low level jobs first like McDonald’s cashiers. So to be winners in the AI age, students flock to popular courses like NUS/ NTU Comp Science/ Comp Engine. So to get into these courses, the competition is cut-throat. Even to get into Poly - Applied AI and Analytics courses, the ELR2B2 COP for 2022 is at 8 points. The competition is tough. So long there are students fighting for limited places, then there will be competition and academic results still matter.

That’s the harsh truth, to survive in the AI age, certain professional training is highly desired and due to tough competition to get these limited slots, only choice is to work hard to meet the COP of these courses.

One thing I don’t wish to see is, if the kid’s interest is in Comp Sc but results not good and got sorted into Civil Engineering course (for example), after the kid graduates from Uni and does not wish to work in the related field. No need to be doctor or lawyer, but work hard at O or A-level so that results can meet the COP of the courses they have interest in. I have no money to send my children overseas.