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    Mid-year exams to be scrapped in all primary, secondary schools by 2023

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    • zac's mumZ Offline
      zac's mum
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      https://i.imgur.com/ulA0DHm.jpg\">


      Example above. Blue answer gets 0 marks. Need green answer (especially with the 3rd step linking back) to get the full 2 marks.

      Personally I feel it is unnecessarily harsh. A child who gets the first part correct is not wrong & clearly demonstrates the required thinking. Just that he hasnt (yet) learnt to express his thoughts in a clearer manner.

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2062958\" time=\"1648529566\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2062958 time=1648529566 user_id=53606]
        https://i.imgur.com/ulA0DHm.jpg\">

        Example above. Blue answer gets 0 marks. Need green answer (especially with the 3rd step linking back) to get the full 2 marks.

        Personally I feel it is unnecessarily harsh. A child who gets the first part correct is not wrong & clearly demonstrates the required thinking. Just that he hasnt (yet) learnt to express his thoughts in a clearer manner.[/quote]
        Why 0 mark?? Got 2 out of 3 already right?

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        • sharonkhooS Offline
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          zac's mum\" post_id=\"2062958\" time=\"1648529566\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2062958 time=1648529566 user_id=53606]
          https://i.imgur.com/ulA0DHm.jpg\">

          Example above. Blue answer gets 0 marks. Need green answer (especially with the 3rd step linking back) to get the full 2 marks.

          Personally I feel it is unnecessarily harsh. A child who gets the first part correct is not wrong & clearly demonstrates the required thinking. Just that he hasnt (yet) learnt to express his thoughts in a clearer manner.[/quote]
          It is very harsh. I would really like to know if the PSLE markers actually mark that way. My guess is that they don't, but teachers will always use the strictest interpretation of the rules to make sure their kids will always get the best mark. Giving 0 instead of partial marks is part of this pattern.

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          • zac's mumZ Offline
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            slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2062960\" time=\"1648530344\" user_id=\"28674:

            It is very harsh. I would really like to know if the PSLE markers actually mark that way. My guess is that they don't, but teachers will always use the strictest interpretation of the rules to make sure their kids will always get the best mark. Giving 0 instead of partial marks is part of this pattern.
            The school teachers are indeed marking this way, whether to scare the kids into complying with this formula or not, I do not know. Neither do I want to risk finding out upon receiving his PSLE score. If I didnt care whether he ends up in a worse stream, I wouldnt harp on him complying with this pedantic rubbish.

            But I do care far too much about him being streamed into a lesser stream than his intelligence “deserves”. That would be too unfair, penalising the less-detailed students IMO.

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              zac's mum\" post_id=\"2062958\" time=\"1648529566\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2062958 time=1648529566 user_id=53606]
              https://i.imgur.com/ulA0DHm.jpg\">

              Example above. Blue answer gets 0 marks. Need green answer (especially with the 3rd step linking back) to get the full 2 marks.

              Personally I feel it is unnecessarily harsh. A child who gets the first part correct is not wrong & clearly demonstrates the required thinking. Just that he hasnt (yet) learnt to express his thoughts in a clearer manner.[/quote]
              Pls allow me to give my view:

              - reason is more important than answer. If answer is correct but wrong/no reason, could be a lucky guess. If answer is wrong ( not what the teacher expect) but reason is correct, the child made a new discovery (and deserve additional bonus point)

              - blue answer: reason given is “gave victory speech”. It implies anyone who manage to get themselves onstage and proceed to give victory speech will win the election. That reason, is not reasonable.
              - green answer: reason given “won position of head prefect”. That is quite a indisputable reason.

              I think it is out of necessity that it was marked that way.

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              • sharonkhooS Offline
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                zac's mum\" post_id=\"2062962\" time=\"1648530823\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2062962 time=1648530823 user_id=53606]
                The school teachers are indeed marking this way, whether to scare the kids into complying with this formula or not, I do not know. Neither do I want to risk finding out upon receiving his PSLE score. If I didnt care whether he ends up in a worse stream, I wouldnt harp on him complying with this pedantic rubbish.

                But I do care far too much about him being streamed into a lesser stream than his intelligence “deserves”. That would be too unfair, penalising the less-detailed students IMO.[/quote]
                Totally agree with you, and yes, I also told my daughters to comply, just in case! Unfortunately, one was able to, and the other not very well. Can't really do much about that. Looking on the more positive side, having them learn early on that compliance can bring rewards can be a good thing too (I know this is debatable).

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                • zac's mumZ Offline
                  zac's mum
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                  bbbay\" post_id=\"2062969\" time=\"1648533829\" user_id=\"175278:

                  Pls allow me to give my view:

                  - reason is more important than answer. If answer is correct but wrong/no reason, could be a lucky guess. If answer is wrong ( not what the teacher expect) but reason is correct, the child made a new discovery (and deserve additional bonus point)

                  - blue answer: reason given is “gave victory speech”. It implies anyone who manage to get themselves onstage and proceed to give victory speech will win the election. That reason, is not reasonable.
                  - green answer: reason given “won position of head prefect”. That is quite a indisputable reason.

                  I think it is out of necessity that it was marked that way.
                  I think u may have misunderstood?

                  Below is the actual provided text (data/evidence), where it is not explicitly said who won the election. Rather, the kids have to refer to the words “Valerie gave her victory speech.” to infer that Valerie had won. This is an inferential-type of Compre question.

                  https://i.imgur.com/s4OWmJm.jpg\">

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                  • zac's mumZ Offline
                    zac's mum
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                    slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2062974\" time=\"1648535714\" user_id=\"28674:

                    Totally agree with you, and yes, I also told my daughters to comply, just in case! Unfortunately, one was able to, and the other not very well. Can't really do much about that. Looking on the more positive side, having them learn early on that compliance can bring rewards can be a good thing too (I know this is debatable).
                    He is the sort to always question why the true need for this law & that law, this rule & that rule, can’t we have a better system, etc. I know it is simpler to say “because I say so!” Or “because that’s the way it is.” Which is pretty sad. For non-negotiable items like school rules & societal rules, of course I insist. For less important stuff, well…on principle I find it hard to explain compliance for compliance’s sake. Mankind did not progress by accepting status quo, nor do real scientific inventions & breakthroughs come from repeating the proven techniques.

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                    • bbbayB Offline
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                      zac's mum\" post_id=\"2062976\" time=\"1648536000\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2062976 time=1648536000 user_id=53606]
                      I think u may have misunderstood?

                      Below is the actual provided text (data/evidence), where it is not explicitly said who won the election. Rather, the kids have to refer to the words “Valerie gave her victory speech.” to infer that Valerie had won. This is an inferential-type of Compre question.

                      https://i.imgur.com/s4OWmJm.jpg\">[/quote]
                      Oh ya, wrong context 😓

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                      • bbbayB Offline
                        bbbay
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                        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2062976\" time=\"1648536000\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2062976 time=1648536000 user_id=53606]
                        I think u may have misunderstood?

                        Below is the actual provided text (data/evidence), where it is not explicitly said who won the election. Rather, the kids have to refer to the words “Valerie gave her victory speech.” to infer that Valerie had won. This is an inferential-type of Compre question.
                        [/quote]
                        The ABC rules given are:
                        Answer
                        Data
                        Reason

                        Valarie was the “answer”. “Give a speech” was the “observable data”. And need a reason why what is observed is the reason for the answer?

                        Without clear reason, Technical question that may arise: Valerie, giving a victory speech, victory for who? Or which of her victory?

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