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    DSA 2022

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • SG_KP1S Offline
      SG_KP1
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      ainunnajib\" post_id=\"2067491\" time=\"1652517291\" user_id=\"166513:

      Thank you! All the best for your child next year!

      Really true about RI DSA Math domain being a risk of \"a chance wasted\". Assuming around 5 students only (perhaps at max), then really unlikely for non-Platinum/Gold math olympians. RIPMWC itself already filters only top 60 Primary 6 children for Round 2 (which my son almost made it but didn't).

      Specific on Coding/Infocomm/Computational Thinking DSA talent area, there aren't many options, top school there is HCI:
      https://postimg.cc/B8GjpBGW
      https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/sg.parent/viz/SingaporeSecondarySchoolSearchDSA/Search

      We've just attended e-Open House of SST today, and my son had a chat with an SST student also afterwards, and he decided not to put SST among the 3 DSA options. As it stands now, we'll take the chance and aim for: NUSH Math, RI Math and HCI Infocomm.

      Wish us the best of luck!
      Note, HCI only offers Higher Chinese. If your son is taking Malay (subjects listed on non-mainstream school tab in the xls), I think he cannot enroll there. Best of luck for whatever three choices he goes with!

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      • M Offline
        Mima
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        ainunnajib\" post_id=\"2067491\" time=\"1652517291\" user_id=\"166513:

        Thank you! All the best for your child next year!

        Really true about RI DSA Math domain being a risk of \"a chance wasted\". Assuming around 5 students only (perhaps at max), then really unlikely for non-Platinum/Gold math olympians. RIPMWC itself already filters only top 60 Primary 6 children for Round 2 (which my son almost made it but didn't).

        Specific on Coding/Infocomm/Computational Thinking DSA talent area, there aren't many options, top school there is HCI:
        https://postimg.cc/B8GjpBGW
        https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/sg.parent/viz/SingaporeSecondarySchoolSearchDSA/Search

        We've just attended e-Open House of SST today, and my son had a chat with an SST student also afterwards, and he decided not to put SST among the 3 DSA options. As it stands now, we'll take the chance and aim for: NUSH Math, RI Math and HCI Infocomm.

        Wish us the best of luck!
        Any specific reason for not applying to SST?

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        • ainunnajibA Offline
          ainunnajib
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          Mima\" post_id=\"2067510\" time=\"1652525169\" user_id=\"194754:

          Any specific reason for not applying to SST?
          Let’s just keep it at “it’s his personal decision, choice, preference”. We have weighed the pros & cons and perhaps not wise to share the cons (as it’s very subjective, from his/our point of view only) as it may inadvertently affects others reading this forum now & in future.

          His order of preference (as at now):
          NUSH DSA Math
          RI DSA Math
          HCI DSA Infocomm
          NUSH SIE
          RI PSLE
          Any “top” school PSLE
          SST SIE
          Any PSLE from Sec 1 Posting exercise

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          • ainunnajibA Offline
            ainunnajib
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            SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2067500\" time=\"1652521935\" user_id=\"188234:

            Note, HCI only offers Higher Chinese. If your son is taking Malay (subjects listed on non-mainstream school tab in the xls), I think he cannot enroll there. Best of luck for whatever three choices he goes with!
            Wouldn’t other mother tongue (in our case, Malay) be directed to separate classes by MOE at Bishan? Or is it true that he won’t be able to even enroll to HCI as Malay?

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            • SG_KP1S Offline
              SG_KP1
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              ainunnajib\" post_id=\"2067513\" time=\"1652526143\" user_id=\"166513:

              Wouldn’t other mother tongue (in our case, Malay) be directed to separate classes by MOE at Bishan? Or is it true that he won’t be able to even enroll to HCI as Malay?
              You may want to double confirm with the school but I believe the answer is no. See FAQ #12.

              https://www.admissions.hci.edu.sg/faqs-pg2

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              • floppyF Offline
                floppy
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                ainunnajib\" post_id=\"2067513\" time=\"1652526143\" user_id=\"166513:

                Wouldn’t other mother tongue (in our case, Malay) be directed to separate classes by MOE at Bishan? Or is it true that he won’t be able to even enroll to HCI as Malay?
                A Malay can enroll in HCI. However, he would have to take HCL / CL as the mother tongue (in HCI case, only HCL). The normal Malay mother tongue won’t be available. If he has not taken HCL / CL in his primary school, it will probably be a no-go.

                It’s the same policy for all SAP schools.

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                • bbbayB Offline
                  bbbay
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                  Check it out tomorrow on Straits Times if keen:


                  https://postimg.cc/bGY35TPY

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                  • AHsDadA Offline
                    AHsDad
                    last edited by

                    ainunnajib\" post_id=\"2067513\" time=\"1652526143\" user_id=\"166513:

                    Wouldn’t other mother tongue (in our case, Malay) be directed to separate classes by MOE at Bishan? Or is it true that he won’t be able to even enroll to HCI as Malay?
                    HCI does not offer Malay. If want to take it separately at MOELC, suggest to speak to MOELC if there are such arrangements. My daughter wanted NYGH as a second choice last yr but eventually we decided not to. We didn’t check with MOELC cos notwithstanding, time is too precious to spend on additional travel, even if there were such options.

                    After hours, may be busy with CCA (twice a week) and other stuff. Also if take 3rd language at MOELC, may not be in sync with school’s timetable if the language is not the common option.

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                    • phtthpP Offline
                      phtthp
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                      ainunnajib\" post_id=\"2067513\" time=\"1652526143\" user_id=\"166513:

                      Wouldn’t other mother tongue (in our case, Malay) be directed to separate classes by MOE at Bishan? Or is it true that he won’t be able to even enroll to HCI as Malay?
                      Take note.

                      There is a difference, between Hwa Chong (Secondary school section)

                      And

                      Hwa Chong (Junior College section)

                      What's the difference?


                      1)
                      Hwa Chong (SECONDARY school Section) only take in Sec 1 students, whose Mother Tongue is Chinese.

                      Why ?

                      Because

                      Hwa Chong is a SAP school.
                      Across the board, ALL SAP Secondary schools in Singapore only admit students whose Mother tongue is Chinese. So, to answer your question, if your son's Mother Tongue is Not Chinese, but Malay / Tamil / Hindi, etc. sorry, he won't even qualify for admission. Hwa Chong is out, for all Sec 1 students who never taken PSLE Chinese before.

                      Thus,
                      can u please choose some other schools instead, but not Hwa Chong for your son, since his Mother tongue is not even Chinese, to begin with ? You can consider other schools. There are other good Secondary schools around too.


                      First & foremost,
                      please google to understand what is the definition of a SAP school for,
                      and the purpose behind why MOE want to build SAP schools in Singapore for.


                      2) Hwa Chong (the A-level Junior College section), they don't bother about Mother tongue or exempted.

                      The only thing they concerned with is,
                      by the end of Sec 4,
                      if u still have not cleared your Higher Mother tongue with a lowest / minimum D7 grade, then when come to JC (1), u will still need to clear your Mother tongue.

                      So, if you are a Non-Chinese, but if you have already cleared your Higher Mother tongue (Malay) by the end of Sec 4, can u still apply to Hwa Chong (Junior College section) ?

                      Of course, you can !

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                      • phtthpP Offline
                        phtthp
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                        ainunnajib\" post_id=\"2067513\" time=\"1652526143\" user_id=\"166513:

                        Wouldn’t other mother tongue (in our case, Malay) be directed to separate classes by MOE at Bishan? Or is it true that he won’t be able to even enroll to HCI as Malay?
                        Don't get yourself confused with MOELC (Bishan).


                        1) What is MOELC (Bishan), for ?

                        Answer -

                        To teach Secondary school students, 3rd language. MOELC (Bishan) don't teach 2nd language (Mother Tongue). It is not the responsibility of MOELC (Bishan) to go and teach 2nd language.

                        Again,
                        one need to be clear, what is the difference between 2nd language vs. 3rd language.


                        2)
                        So, where do students learn their 2nd language, from ?

                        Answer -

                        They learn in schools.
                        They learn 2nd language (Mother tongue) in Secondary schools' premises itself, from Monday to Friday,
                        either
                        during built-in school regular curriculum time from ( 7.45 am to 2 pm dismissal time )

                        Or

                        they learn after school, after their lunch.

                        ======≈================

                        3)
                        For MOELC (Bishan), to learn a 3rd language, how many times per week do students go down to learn 3rd language like

                        German / Japanese / French ?

                        Answer :

                        only ONCE a week !
                        Key word is \"ONCE\".


                        4) in contrast, to learn a 2nd language called \"Mother tongue \", how many times or in Total, examine your 2022 Sec 1 timetable, go & count the Total number of lessons your Secondary school premises have assigned for your Mother Tongue, per week ?

                        Very heavy, isn't it ?
                        Definitely, more than once lesson assigned, across Monday to Friday, per week.

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