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    DSA 2022

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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      sapphiree
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      hi, has anyone received audition email from VS Asethetics Domain? thanks!

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        Tiancai900
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        Yes, HCI has requested for sports and academics domain.

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          Chanced upon an old article with some additional figures. Some of these have been reported before but here they are again. Keep in mind these are only overall/aggregate figures.


          Year: Total Applications / Unique Applicants / Admitted / Overall Success Rate (1)
          2019: 29,000 / Not Provided / 3,500 / NA
          2020: 30,500 / 11,900 / 3,600 / 30.3%
          2021: 31,400 / 12,100 / 3,700 / 30.6%

          Year: % IP Applications / Number of IP Applications / % Non-IP Applications / Number of Non-IP Applications
          2020: 44% / 13,420 / 56% / 17,080
          2021: 41% / 12,874 / 59% / 18,526

          Year: Estimated IP Admitted (2) / Estimated IP Application Rate (3)
          2020: 1,200 / 11.2x
          2021: 1,233 / 10.4x (RI was 13x)

          Year: Estimated Non-IP Admitted / Estimated Non-IP Application Rate
          2020: 2,400 / 7.1x
          2021: 2,467 / 7.5x

          (1) = Admitted / Unique Applications
          (2) = In 2020, roughly 1/3 of 3,600 admitted were to IP
          (3) = IP Applications / IP Admitted

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            Toomuchlaundry
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            SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2071048\" time=\"1655771586\" user_id=\"188234:

            Chanced upon an old article with some additional figures. Some of these have been reported before but here they are again. Keep in mind these are only overall/aggregate figures.

            Year: Total Applications / Unique Applicants / Admitted / Overall Success Rate (1)
            2019: 29,000 / Not Provided / 3,500 / NA
            2020: 30,500 / 11,900 / 3,600 / 30.3%
            2021: 31,400 / 12,100 / 3,700 / 30.6%

            Year: % IP Applications / Number of IP Applications / % Non-IP Applications / Number of Non-IP Applications
            2020: 44% / 13,420 / 56% / 17,080
            2021: 41% / 12,874 / 59% / 18,526

            Year: Estimated IP Admitted (2) / Estimated IP Application Rate (3)
            2020: 1,200 / 11.2x
            2021: 1,233 / 10.4x (RI was 13x)

            Year: Estimated Non-IP Admitted / Estimated Non-IP Application Rate
            2020: 2,400 / 7.1x
            2021: 2,467 / 7.5x

            (1) = Admitted / Unique Applications
            (2) = In 2020, roughly 1/3 of 3,600 admitted were to IP
            (3) = IP Applications / IP Admitted
            Hi SG KP1,

            What do the statistics say, other than application rates for IP schools are wildly oversubscribed?

            Did u enter your kids through DSA? Why or why not, what is in your thinking?

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              sapphiree
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              thanks SG KP1 for the stats. Just did a quick calculation.

              The success rate of DSA is about 13-15%. Good luck to the kids!

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                Toomuchlaundry\" post_id=\"2071049\" time=\"1655774720\" user_id=\"197996:

                Hi SG KP1,

                What do the statistics say, other than application rates for IP schools are wildly oversubscribed?

                Did u enter your kids through DSA? Why or why not, what is in your thinking?
                To me, the aggregate statistics only say so much. If you assume the % of unique applicants follows the % of applications, the chance of success for IP is ~23%-25% and the chance of success for non-IP is 35%-36%.

                The rub is that one will be hard pressed to find any individual kid that has these exact odds. I can imagine a scenario where a kid has a 99.9% chance of success. There are probably also groups of kids (certain characteristics and accolades) that have a 50% chance of success. Of course, if some have odds that are above average, there must be some with odds that are below average. The second rub is that while many students probably have 6+ schools they would be happy with, many are only willing to take themselves out of the S1 posting for 1 or 2 schools. If you go this route, it can make the odds even longer.

                So I think the key is to try and understand where one stands and have reasonable expectations from there. I have always encouraged people to get a broad range of prior DSA candidates that were both successful and unsuccessful, as every year there are kids that look great but don't make it and other kids that are successful (for better or worse, people tend to anchor around the prior experiences of those that are closest to them).

                I have also always thought that if the kid was doing things out of intrinsic interest, then it doesn't matter whether get DSA or do not get DSA. The time will have been well spent and benefitted the child regardless. My kid this year applied, and I guess we are now in the waiting game phase. I think with the right attitude there is not much to lose and a lot to gain, so might as well give it a try.

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                  sugardonut\" post_id=\"2071006\" time=\"1655706684\" user_id=\"107069:

                  If any parent has received invitation from NYGH or DHS kindly update here too.
                  NYGH shortlist out today.

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                    magically
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                    Kenmakch\" post_id=\"2071105\" time=\"1655797719\" user_id=\"44311:

                    NYGH shortlist out today.
                    Which domain?

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                      Toomuchlaundry
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                      :thankyou:


                      Good points! Hope your kid will take the DSA results well, come what may!

                      SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2071055\" time=\"1655779920\" user_id=\"188234:
                      To me, the aggregate statistics only say so much. If you assume the % of unique applicants follows the % of applications, the chance of success for IP is ~23%-25% and the chance of success for non-IP is 35%-36%.

                      The rub is that one will be hard pressed to find any individual kid that has these exact odds. I can imagine a scenario where a kid has a 99.9% chance of success. There are probably also groups of kids (certain characteristics and accolades) that have a 50% chance of success. Of course, if some have odds that are above average, there must be some with odds that are below average. The second rub is that while many students probably have 6+ schools they would be happy with, many are only willing to take themselves out of the S1 posting for 1 or 2 schools. If you go this route, it can make the odds even longer.

                      So I think the key is to try and understand where one stands and have reasonable expectations from there. I have always encouraged people to get a broad range of prior DSA candidates that were both successful and unsuccessful, as every year there are kids that look great but don't make it and other kids that are successful (for better or worse, people tend to anchor around the prior experiences of those that are closest to them).

                      I have also always thought that if the kid was doing things out of intrinsic interest, then it doesn't matter whether get DSA or do not get DSA. The time will have been well spent and benefitted the child regardless. My kid this year applied, and I guess we are now in the waiting game phase. I think with the right attitude there is not much to lose and a lot to gain, so might as well give it a try.

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                        sugardonut
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                        Kenmakch\" post_id=\"2071105\" time=\"1655797719\" user_id=\"44311:

                        NYGH shortlist out today.
                        Thanks. You received?

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