Comparing Science Enrichment Programs

[Zeal mummy]

Hi Blokus, have you spoken with Kenneth? … he might be able to provide a better resolution to this issue, given these information. Hope your daughter has recovered fully and continues to love science.

[Blokus]

Thanks Zeal mummy. Not sure who Kenneth is but some assistant manager spoke to me.


It’s ok. We have moved on. They don’t want our money, we shall spend it on tll

[Zeal mummy]

You’re welcome, Blokus. He’s the boss, co-founder and very approachable. He taught a masterclass that my DD attended during the holidays years ago. But, I’m … Glad you’ve moved on!

[Blokus]

Thanks!


I came here so that others won’t experience the same cold approach I received by pique lab.

But putting my ill-feelings aside, here’s my personal comparison between pique lab and tll and blue tree.

*PIQUE LAB*
Teachers are fun and engaging. It makes the lessons pretty fun. That’s why even though I did not like the fact that they merely reprint exam questions from other primary schools, I chose to stay on because my kid enjoyed the class.

They drill the kids very well in open ended. But the flaw is they only drill the kids in commonly seen questions. In fact they drill the kids in similar questions in and out so much so that there’s a risk for the kids to start (unconsciously) memorising the answers blindly.

Hence I will only recommend pique lab for p3-p4 kids. Because p3/p4 science questions are pretty standard and as long as you follow the pique lab’s model answers you will be alright.

However come upper primary, the students need to be able to tackle higher order thinking questions which I don’t think that pique lab trains the kids very well in this aspect (because they only drill the kids in common questions and the kids answer questions by drawing from memory rather than thinking).

*LEARNING LAB*
From my own observation with my elder kid and speaking to a number of friends with kids who had attended tll- we all felt that tll laid down quite a strong foundation in our kids. Also, comparing the notes given by tll to pique lab, tll notes are more in depth, detailed, resourceful and ‘mature’ (🤣 pique lab uses a lot of colors, cartoon pictures - hence again more suited for younger p3/p4 ). Pique lab notes again- only tackles commonly seen questions.

Tll sets their own questions (or so I think) and they are less commonly seen, tricker hence the students need to rely more on their thinking skills rather than recalling on similar questions that they have done before.

So my take is that tll suits more for upper primary students.

I read some parents here who felt that tll syllabus is out of the psle syllabus- good and bad. As one of my friend feels that it helps the kids to gain more knowledge and makes the science lessons less static. However, I think because of the depth of tll science lessons it may be too overwhelming for some kids who need concise, straight forward lessons.

*BLUE TREE*
Thanks to being kicked out by pique lab, I got to trial with blue tree. While I was happy that they set their own questions- hence honing the kids to think (ie the students can’t rely on memory on how to answer the questions) but it’s worksheets and the notes were the least of the lot. I felt there was little depth and it feels kind of like they only focus on the main key areas in a given topic. That being said, I think it suits lower primary kids who need less of the clutter, less drilling and more concise notes and straightforward lessons- I say can try blue tree.

My take:
If your kid is weak in the fundamentals and need alot of drilling in the basics of basics - pique lab

If your kid can be pushed to take in more - learning lab

If your kid only needs to know the gist of the topics- blue tree ( maybe?)

I want a tuition center that expose my kid to unfamiliar questions so that it trains my kids in their thinking skills hence my personal choice is tll (I’m not a fake, paid-for-ad parent ok).

Hope the dues of my trauma will help someone out there. 😅

[mummyof3angels]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2071403\" time=\"1655957324\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2071403 time=1655957324 user_id=58173]
Hi Blokus, have you spoken with Kenneth? .. he might be able to provide a better resolution to this issue, given these information. Hope your daughter has recovered fully and continues to love science.[/quote]

I don't recall meeting a Kenneth at Pique Lab before. Is he new?

[ChiefKiasu]

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Hi, I would like to buy The Pique Lab notes and the practice series(new).
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Blokus\" post_id=\"2071460\" time=\"1655994948\" user_id=\"68342:

Thanks!

I came here so that others won’t experience the same cold approach I received by pique lab.

But putting my ill-feelings aside, here’s my personal comparison between pique lab and tll and blue tree.

*PIQUE LAB*
Teachers are fun and engaging. It makes the lessons pretty fun. That’s why even though I did not like the fact that they merely reprint exam questions from other primary schools, I chose to stay on because my kid enjoyed the class.

They drill the kids very well in open ended. But the flaw is they only drill the kids in commonly seen questions. In fact they drill the kids in similar questions in and out so much so that there’s a risk for the kids to start (unconsciously) memorising the answers blindly.

Hence I will only recommend pique lab for p3-p4 kids. Because p3/p4 science questions are pretty standard and as long as you follow the pique lab’s model answers you will be alright.

However come upper primary, the students need to be able to tackle higher order thinking questions which I don’t think that pique lab trains the kids very well in this aspect (because they only drill the kids in common questions and the kids answer questions by drawing from memory rather than thinking).

*LEARNING LAB*
From my own observation with my elder kid and speaking to a number of friends with kids who had attended tll- we all felt that tll laid down quite a strong foundation in our kids. Also, comparing the notes given by tll to pique lab, tll notes are more in depth, detailed, resourceful and ‘mature’ (🤣 pique lab uses a lot of colors, cartoon pictures - hence again more suited for younger p3/p4 ). Pique lab notes again- only tackles commonly seen questions.

Tll sets their own questions (or so I think) and they are less commonly seen, tricker hence the students need to rely more on their thinking skills rather than recalling on similar questions that they have done before.

So my take is that tll suits more for upper primary students.

I read some parents here who felt that tll syllabus is out of the psle syllabus- good and bad. As one of my friend feels that it helps the kids to gain more knowledge and makes the science lessons less static. However, I think because of the depth of tll science lessons it may be too overwhelming for some kids who need concise, straight forward lessons.

*BLUE TREE*
Thanks to being kicked out by pique lab, I got to trial with blue tree. While I was happy that they set their own questions- hence honing the kids to think (ie the students can’t rely on memory on how to answer the questions) but it’s worksheets and the notes were the least of the lot. I felt there was little depth and it feels kind of like they only focus on the main key areas in a given topic. That being said, I think it suits lower primary kids who need less of the clutter, less drilling and more concise notes and straightforward lessons- I say can try blue tree.

My take:
If your kid is weak in the fundamentals and need alot of drilling in the basics of basics - pique lab

If your kid can be pushed to take in more - learning lab

If your kid only needs to know the gist of the topics- blue tree ( maybe?)

I want a tuition center that expose my kid to unfamiliar questions so that it trains my kids in their thinking skills hence my personal choice is tll (I’m not a fake, paid-for-ad parent ok).

Hope the dues of my trauma will help someone out there. 😅

My experience with pique lab is that they don't teach according to moe textbook syllabus and this does not help children to revise according to their weighted assessments. This method of teaching will affect grades. Be aware of this.

[Zeal mummy]

mummyof3angels\" post_id=\"2071581\" time=\"1656064749\" user_id=\"194437:

I don't recall meeting a Kenneth at Pique Lab before. Is he new?

He’s the boss & co-founder. He taught a masterclass that my DD attended during the holidays years ago. No, not new.

[Zeal mummy]

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My experience with pique lab is that they don't teach according to moe textbook syllabus and this does not help children to revise according to their weighted assessments. This method of teaching will affect grades. Be aware of this.

Hi Data, there isn’t a fixed schedule to do a specific topic for science in our primary schools. The primary schools are free to decide which topic to teach first. As such, all the schools could be doing different topics at any given time.

[Grr_roxy]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2072358\" time=\"1656505015\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2072358 time=1656505015 user_id=58173]
Hi Data, there isn’t a fixed schedule to do a specific topic for science in our primary schools. The primary schools are free to decide which topic to teach first. As such, all the schools could be doing different topics at any given time.[/quote]

Agree with Zeal mummy. The only centre that follows the sequence of topics taught in school is only TLL (as far as I know). TLL group students into clusters based on sch. But this also means that you have lesser slots/options to choose if you want to follow strictly the grouping.