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    MOE says 15 marks of the Mathematics PSLE paper are challenging. So average students can only hope to score 85% max?

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    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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      My guess, it is a hexagon shape. 6 students shared at the 6 points. Then each row 3 pax?

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      • 00skyblue000 Offline
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        MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2075447\" time=\"1658360440\" user_id=\"43981:

        My guess, it is a hexagon shape. 6 students shared at the 6 points. Then each row 3 pax?
        So clever. 6 groups of 5-1

        A foreigner and family came to Sg in 2019, expat terms. Chose to enrol their kids in SG neighbourhood pri sch, in mid terms of upp pri, got in one with vacancies.

        She said, SG is training kids critical thinking, ahead of other places. She never learned math modelling before too, so read up on books on her own to teach her children. If kids can pick up, it's a bonus, if not, it's great to have learnt it before sec sch process based maths.

        Take away from psle experience is, the mindset we parents can play a role to help our children have.

        Do or die mindset has its risk and downfall. Because psle is not the only exam they will face in life. The damage done at young age can be difficult to undo.

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        • MrsKiasuM Offline
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          For me, you give me formula…I will likely unable to do/remember. I don’t know how to apply which formula to which kind of qns. I don’t think my kids are doing that too. I think we are more of the ‘haphazard’ type. Grade wise difficult to get good ones. Need discipline which I don’t have.


          To add: since I can’t have the discipline myself, I don’t impose it on my kids. Can do, do…cannot do, what can we do right…

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          • skiiS Offline
            skii
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            zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075441\" time=\"1658358676\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075441 time=1658358676 user_id=53606]
            Discuss for fun:
            - how many parents can solve this?
            - how many of your P6s kids can solve this?
            - how many of your kids could have solved this in P3 (ie. when the official textbook teaches the 5 times table & 6 times table)?

            Qn: There are 24 boys in a class. The boys are sitting in 6 rows of 5. How is it possible? Draw a diagram.[/quote]
            6x5 =30 points required
            since there are only 24 kids, there will be 6 kids (from their single point) but having contribution to two rows.


            once we know that, just arrange the 5 straight lines with 6 points of intersection

            (can be any shape, don't even need to be hexagon or etc... in fact, the lines don't even need to close off to form a particular shape)

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            • zac's mumZ Offline
              zac's mum
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              skii\" post_id=\"2075513\" time=\"1658378817\" user_id=\"82603:

              6x5 =30 points required
              since there are only 24 kids, there will be 6 kids (from their single point) but having contribution to two rows.


              once we know that, just arrange the 5 straight lines with 6 points of intersection

              (can be any shape, don't even need to be hexagon or etc... in fact, the lines don't even need to close off to form a particular shape)
              Interesting! My first thought was the hexagon because the “missing” 6 need to be “shared” or used twice at both ends of the row of 5. Hence the need for the closed loop.

              Mind drawing out your suggested alternative?

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              • skiiS Offline
                skii
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                zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075515\" time=\"1658379785\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075515 time=1658379785 user_id=53606]
                Interesting! My first thought was the hexagon because the “missing” 6 need to be “shared” or used twice at both ends of the row of 5. Hence the need for the closed loop.

                Mind drawing out your suggested alternative?[/quote]
                just an example: (I hope it is easy to visualize, since i don't know how to insert a picture here)

                say this # sign.
                add two lines below, touching the vertical line at the bottom, one line extending to the left, one line extending to the right
                to look like this _#_
                (the two lines need to connect to the bottom of the hash sign)

                this will satisfy the conditions of:
                6 points of intersection
                6 lines
                5 pax on each line
                24 kids


                (I think la.... not a maths teacher. someone confirm?)

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                • zac's mumZ Offline
                  zac's mum
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                  skii\" post_id=\"2075519\" time=\"1658381390\" user_id=\"82603:

                  just an example: (I hope it is easy to visualize, since i don't know how to insert a picture here)

                  say this # sign.
                  add two lines below, touching the vertical line at the bottom, one line extending to the left, one line extending to the right
                  to look like this _#_
                  (the two lines need to connect to the bottom of the hash sign)

                  this will satisfy the conditions of:
                  6 points of intersection
                  6 lines
                  5 pax on each line
                  24 kids


                  (I think la.... not a maths teacher. someone confirm?)
                  You are right. Here u go!
                  https://i.imgur.com/bbRWtQC.jpg\">

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                  • skiiS Offline
                    skii
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                    zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075521\" time=\"1658381982\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075521 time=1658381982 user_id=53606]
                    You are right. Here u go!
                    https://i.imgur.com/bbRWtQC.jpg\">[/quote]
                    similar to those type of GEP questions like:

                    (visualize a + sign),
                    with a number on each point and a number in the middle cross
                    by using number 1 to 5, fill in missing numbers such that each line equates to 9


                    same question, each line equates to 10
                    same question, each line equates to 8

                    (so the skillset here is to know, what is the intersecting number)

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                    • zac's mumZ Offline
                      zac's mum
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                      So now that the kids are home from school…ask your kids to solve. At P3, I doubt many will know how to solve it themselves without prior exposure.


                      It was an illustration of a differentiator type of qn that could come out at P3 (the parent who posted this in the FB help group clarified that it was from a non-GEP but SAP school).

                      For PSLE, some years there may be differentiator qns that kids with prior exposure would immediately know how to solve. Like my example — once youve seen it, u will know how to do similar qns. But in other years, SEAB will think of other types that need even more advanced logical problem-solving skills.

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                        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2075526\" time=\"1658383358\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2075526 time=1658383358 user_id=53606]
                        So now that the kids are home from school…ask your kids to solve. At P3, I doubt many will know how to solve it themselves without prior exposure.

                        It was an illustration of a differentiator type of qn that could come out at P3 (the parent who posted this in the FB help group clarified that it was from a non-GEP but SAP school).

                        For PSLE, some years there may be differentiator qns that kids with prior exposure would immediately know how to solve. Like my example — once youve seen it, u will know how to do similar qns. But in other years, SEAB will think of other types that need even more advanced logical problem-solving skills.[/quote]
                        What is \"differentiator\" question ?

                        Under which ( P5 or P6 )
                        Maths MOE syllabus topic,
                        does it fall under ?

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