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    DSA 2022

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • M Offline
      Ma3
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      phtthp\" post_id=\"2081461\" time=\"1662613787\" user_id=\"35251:

      Ah ! This is something, which i don't quite understand.

      In principle, no doubt, the school offered the child CO, for O-level track in the end, because during the very thorough DSA (tests + interview) conducted, the school management overall feel that the child is better off, studying O-level instead of IB.

      However, if the child's actual PSLE results released proved that she does qualify for IB or A-level IP track after all, why must the child be denied or deprived the chance of starting IB or IP from Sec 1, for next 2 years ? Why must wait until end of Sec 2, then come and consider let her be transfered, into IP track ?

      The fact that, her actual PSLE results qualify her for IP, means what?

      Means that the DSA school management has made a mistake, in offering her a CO for the O-level track, instead of offering her a CO for the IB track ?
      The DSA school has under-estimated this child's academic ability, in PSLE performance ?

      Come on, this is not fair !
      If this kid had never accepted the DSA O level track CO, based on PSLE results, she already qualify for IP (be it IB or A-level), and would have entered straight into IB ! So, why waste 2 precious years of her Lower Secondary years life, doing O level curriculum ?

      I mean,
      if the kid's PSLE results don't qualify for IP, then case closed, we all have nothing to say anymore. Don't qualify means, don't qualify, right ? There is nothing to argue over.

      But, in contrast,
      if the kid's actual Psle results released does qualify her for IP, why waste time, doing O level for Sec (1 and 2) ?
      Well,I guess parent has to discuss with child the options during application; tick both tracks or just IP track. If choose the former, then got to accept if given 'O' track.

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      • M Offline
        Mr.025413Clumsy
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        I wonder whether this is intended to prevent parents from gaming the system.


        At the point of the DSA application, parents are allowed to select a preference, right? If we picked the O-levels track, we know that the admission standard (COP) is likely lower than IP/IB so there’s a better chance of getting a DSA CO that way. If parents were not bothered either way, then I think the school has the discretion to slot the student into an appropriate program depending on his/her grades/performance. Regardless, the decision was left with the parents so we have to live with it, one way or another.

        In short, I think once you are allocated that specific track, it’s hard to argue for a swap (whether upwards to IP/IB or downwards to O). If we could do that, the schools might end up being swamped with these types of requests.

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        • M Offline
          Ma3
          last edited by

          Mr.Clumsy\" post_id=\"2081472\" time=\"1662617835\" user_id=\"135989:

          I wonder whether this is intended to prevent parents from gaming the system.

          At the point of the DSA application, parents are allowed to select a preference, right? If we picked the O-levels track, we know that the admission standard (COP) is likely lower than IP/IB so there's a better chance of getting a DSA CO that way. If parents were not bothered either way, then I think the school has the discretion to slot the student into an appropriate program depending on his/her grades/performance. Regardless, the decision was left with the parents so we have to live with it, one way or another.

          In short, I think once you are allocated that specific track, it's hard to argue for a swap (whether upwards to IP/IB or downwards to O). If we could do that, the schools might end up being swamped with these types of requests.
          Yeah! I believe MOE doesn’t want to open a can of worms nor override individual school’s decision.
          Not that parents have no options to begin with.

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          • E Offline
            eternia
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            Hi fellow parents. My DD received COs for MGS & St Nicholas in Netball. Both for ‘O’ levels. We are in a dilemma on which to choose. Can I get some valuable suggestions? Many thanks in advance.


            My DD is not academically strong. Her prelims is around AL14. We live in Ang Mo Kio. I send my DS to school at Clementi in the morning.

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            • phtthpP Offline
              phtthp
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              eternia\" post_id=\"2081512\" time=\"1662626369\" user_id=\"116862:

              Hi fellow parents. My DD received COs for MGS & St Nicholas in Netball. Both for ‘O’ levels. We are in a dilemma on which to choose. Can I get some valuable suggestions? Many thanks in advance.

              My DD is not academically strong. Her prelims is around AL14. We live in Ang Mo Kio. I send my DS to school at Clementi in the morning.
              Ask your daughter, come year 5, what does she want to study ?

              she want (A-level or IB) ?
              Decision making has to come from her. She owns the decision made, after consulting (parents, school Teachers, Principal, etc), for advice.


              If at end of Sec 2 streaming, assuming that she does well -


              1) if she choose O-level (in St Nick), she can transfer across into IP track (Sec 3 onwards),

              come Year 5 (in year 2027),

              she will join the affliated A-level (Eunoia Junior College),

              where other IP students from
              (Catholic High + SCGS) will also join her.

              At end of Sec 2,
              there are O-level track students, who do transfer across into IP (Sec 3).


              Also,
              from your house in Ang Mo Kio,
              if she go EJC come year 5, is very convenient ! Only 3 bus stop, from Ang Mo Kio mrt station :-


              https://gothere.sg/m/directions?from=Ang+Mo+Kio+MRT+Station%2C+2795+Ang+Mo+Kio+Avenue+8%2C+Singapore+569812&uid-from=3fe52ff2-d9bf-40fe-88f1-ba1648cc610a&to=Eunoia+Junior+College%2C+2+Sin+Ming+Place%2C+Singapore+573838&uid-to=f10af35b-7fc2-46a9-9823-58143236f43d


              Or


              2) if she choose O-level (in MGS),
              she can transfer across into IB-track (Sec 3 onwards),

              come Year 5 (in year 2027),
              she will join the affliated ACSI (IB curriculum), with ACS boys.


              3) other factors, to consider :-

              a) is your family Catholic ?
              If Catholic, choose St Nick


              4) give a call, to both schools' VP (Academic ) , ask them-

              In Upper Secondary (3 & 4) -
              what kind of Talent Development programmes are available or in store inside each school, for students who excel in (English, Maths, Chem, Physics, Bio, humanities) ?

              No doubt your daughter have entered the school by Netball DSA, still, when come to O level, your girl still have to explore Academic opportunities available.

              Based on the answers given by both VP (Academic), u will have a better idea, which school your girl feel is a better fit for herself.

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              • SG_KP1S Offline
                SG_KP1
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                eternia\" post_id=\"2081512\" time=\"1662626369\" user_id=\"116862:

                Hi fellow parents. My DD received COs for MGS & St Nicholas in Netball. Both for ‘O’ levels. We are in a dilemma on which to choose. Can I get some valuable suggestions? Many thanks in advance.

                My DD is not academically strong. Her prelims is around AL14. We live in Ang Mo Kio. I send my DS to school at Clementi in the morning.
                Hi and congrats :rahrah: , both schools are good options to have.

                Absent a preference for religious denomination and/or SAP environment, I would pick SNGS just for ease of commute each day (or at least back home).

                Affiliated COPs are AL14 (SNGS) and AL17 (MGS), which are fairly comparable and similar to your girl's prelim score. Hope others can add more detailed thoughts on the differences between the two schools (unfortunately, I am not in the weeds here).

                Good luck and congrats again.

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                • emohE Offline
                  emoh
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                  eternia\" post_id=\"2081512\" time=\"1662626369\" user_id=\"116862:

                  Hi fellow parents. My DD received COs for MGS & St Nicholas in Netball. Both for ‘O’ levels. We are in a dilemma on which to choose. Can I get some valuable suggestions? Many thanks in advance.

                  My DD is not academically strong. Her prelims is around AL14. We live in Ang Mo Kio. I send my DS to school at Clementi in the morning.
                  School fees could also be a consideration as MGS is an independent school

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                  • phtthpP Offline
                    phtthp
                    last edited by

                    eternia\" post_id=\"2081512\" time=\"1662626369\" user_id=\"116862:

                    Hi fellow parents. My DD received COs for MGS & St Nicholas in Netball. Both for ‘O’ levels. We are in a dilemma on which to choose. Can I get some valuable suggestions? Many thanks in advance.

                    My DD is not academically strong. Her prelims is around AL14. We live in Ang Mo Kio. I send my DS to school at Clementi in the morning.
                    Another factor to consider is,

                    is your daughter interested in Chinese culture / Chinese Literature ? Does she like to read Chinese ( history or novel ), during free time ?

                    If Yes,
                    come Upper Sec (3 and 4), she can pursue Bicultural Studies Programme (BSP), in St Nick.

                    But,
                    this BSP programme (St Nick) is offered only to IP (A level) students.
                    So,
                    two years later, at end of year 2024, if your daughter is keen, an interview will be conducted for Sec 2 applicants, and successful applicants from the O level track, will need to Transfer across into the IP track, in order to pursue BSP. Because
                    BSP scholarship
                    is offered only for the IP track students, not for the O level track students.


                    More write up is here (for reference), in Upper Sec 3 :-

                    https://chijstnicholasgirls.moe.edu.sg/secondary/learning-at-st-nicks/key-programmes/talent-development/bicultural-studies-programme

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                    • JohnnyRedJ Offline
                      JohnnyRed
                      last edited by

                      Hi hi


                      any news for Temasek Secondary - Leadership?

                      TIA

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                      • E Offline
                        eternia
                        last edited by

                        Thanks all for your valuable advice

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