JC or Poly?
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When DS works on a piece of hands on work, he gets it done (70-80%).
When DS works on a academic question, he gets it done (70-80%).
Maybe the degrees of difficulty between hands on work and academic question have to be calibrated, but we do not know of a way to do it. E.g. if he gets an easy piece of hands on work, and a difficult academic question it doesn’t indicate anything, or vice versa. How else can we tell which learning mode suits him better since he doesn’t indicate a preference for academic work or hands on work at the moment (for the purposes of choosing Poly or JC) ?
Also wanted to verify if a rumour is true, that some schools offer ALP and scores of ALP, just like OP/ IP subjects can be used for Poly admissions. Is there such a thing ? -
Not sure what to post so I borrow this thread. I just found out from MOE website that in order to enter JC, the L1R5 must contain the following:
- EL or HCL
- any humanities or special language
- any maths or science
- any humanities or special language or maths or sci
- any 2 relevant subjects
Where does computing fall under?
I heard a boy who dsa to Hci jc could not enter his computing score into the online dsa portal and was forced to use his lesser subject as a substitute. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2082100\" time=\"1663114607\" user_id=\"2358:
R3 (bold and underline above) can include math/science. R1 (italics) is the one that can trip people up.
Not sure what to post so I borrow this thread. I just found out from MOE website that in order to enter JC, the L1R5 must contain the following:
- EL or HCL
- any humanities or special language
- any maths or science
- any humanities or special language
- any 2 relevant subjects
So we need 2 humanities?
Did I misinterpret?
https://www.moe.gov.sg/post-secondary/admissions/jae/admission-criteria -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2082100\" time=\"1663114607\" user_id=\"2358:
I think Computing is a O subject, O as in Others. So it goes under R4 and R5.
Not sure what to post so I borrow this thread. I just found out from MOE website that in order to enter JC, the L1R5 must contain the following:
- EL or HCL
- any humanities or special language
- any maths or science
- any humanities or special language or maths or sci
- any 2 relevant subjects
Where does computing fall under?
I heard a boy who dsa to Hci jc could not enter his computing score into the online dsa portal and was forced to use his lesser subject as a substitute.
R1 is a H (humanities)
R2 is a S (science) or M (maths)
R3 is a H or S or M.
R4 and R5 are any of the above or an O (others) -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2082145\" time=\"1663138149\" user_id=\"2964:
Out of curiosity I went to look deeper into someone who is taking 9 O level subjects with hcl being the 9th. And MOE also state if you use hcl you cannot use cl in any of the L1R5 Components (correct me if wrong interpretation). So assuming someone is weaker in English and hv to use HCL in L1, essentially for the R5 it cannot use CL. Out of the remaining R5, essentially you hv to take everything except 1 subject as a buffer since EL cannot be used. Quite restraining…..
I think Computing is a O subject, O as in Others. So it goes under R4 and R5.
R1 is a H (humanities)
R2 is a S (science) or M (maths)
R3 is a H or S or M.
R4 and R5 are any of the above or an O (others) -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2082161\" time=\"1663150182\" user_id=\"2358:
Out of curiosity I went to look deeper into someone who is taking 9 O level subjects with hcl being the 9th. And MOE also state if you use hcl you cannot use cl in any of the L1R5 Components (correct me if wrong interpretation). So assuming someone is weaker in English and hv to use HCL in L1, essentially for the R5 it cannot use CL. Out of the remaining R5, essentially you hv to take everything except 1 subject as a buffer since EL cannot be used. Quite restraining…..
The logic is you can’t double count CL. HCL is not viewed as a 9th subject, it’s more like a 8.5. -
floppy\" post_id=\"2082169\" time=\"1663152622\" user_id=\"97579:
Am I correct to say that if hcl is L1, CL cannot be R5 (based on the logic CL/HCL is viewed as one), then EL also cannot be used in R5 correct? So if EL is used as L1, can hcl or cl be used as R5 under the ‘others’ bucket? Seems like in sec sch, it doesn’t pay to be good in Chinese.
The logic is you can’t double count CL. HCL is not viewed as a 9th subject, it’s more like a 8.5. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2082171\" time=\"1663153549\" user_id=\"2358:
IIRC, neither EL nor CL can be used as the R subject, simply because they are categorized as L subjects.
Am I correct to say that if hcl is L1, CL cannot be R5 (based on the logic CL/HCL is viewed as one), then EL also cannot be used in R5 correct? So if EL is used as L1, can hcl or cl be used as R5 under the ‘others’ bucket? Seems like in sec sch, it doesn’t pay to be good in Chinese.
Doing HCL for O levels still gives u 2 benefits: -2 bonus points, and no need to take H1 CL in JC.
Not that it doesnt pay to do HCL (it does), but you are correct in that it doesnt pay to *do extremely well* in HCL or CL in secondary school. Chinese buffs however, may want to consider Chinese Literature as their humanities subject (half my Sec 4 class did that).
If u want to maximise efficiency, work harder to get A1 for EL is probably smarter, side benefit maybe the humanities essays will improve also. Set the grounding for GP in JC as well. -
I think CL is an O subject.
The O level student who sits for both CL and HCL is only sitting for an additional exam, but not using up curriculum time for 2 subjects.
The HCL gives him 2 bonus points.
The student who takes HCL and CL doesnt take CL as an additional subject. It is only sitting for an additional exam. So the earlier example of “a student taking 9 subjects including HCL” is actually a student taking 8 subjects and a CL exam. He is taking HCL as an option for his L1, without which he will have to use EL as his L1. And in your example of this student being weak in EL, having the option to use his stronger HCL in L1 is already an advantage. And then he has to pick 5 out of his 6 other subjects. Vs another student who has the same 8 subjects (7 subjects + CL) and no HCL, he will use his EL for L1 and then has to pick 5 out of 7 subjects. It may seem like he has an additional subject to play around with for his R1-R5. Whereas the earlier student has an additional subject to play around with for his L1. One has more options for L1, and the other has more options for R1-R5. -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2082176\" time=\"1663158872\" user_id=\"2964:
Thx for the correction.
CL is an O subject.
How about if use HCL as L1? Can EL be an O subject?
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