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Some useful videos to decide on subject combination in Sec 3:
https://youtu.be/bS5JhiyWWHY (Pure or Combined Science)
https://youtu.be/2telwrMiO40 (Physics or Biology) -
Hi, dd needs to choose pure humanities for her subject combination, either pure history or pure geography. She likes history and knows the content well but exam marks not great because she struggles with skills. Her geog A1, but she has no interest or passion and find it boring. Any advice which to take ?
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quackyduck\" post_id=\"2086421\" time=\"1666362219\" user_id=\"199674:
In order to help her \"own\" the problem or decision making,
Hi, dd needs to choose pure humanities for her subject combination, either pure history or pure geography. She likes history and knows the content well but exam marks not great because she struggles with skills. Her geog A1, but she has no interest or passion and find it boring. Any advice which to take ?
ask her to
1) walk into any Popular book store, flip through both O-level TYS (Geog & History), decide for herself which subject, she herself prefer to study.
After flipping through TYS, if she find History \"over-whelming\", because too many dates, historical events happening to remember, eg. What happen to Stalin, Hitler, etc
maybe she won't take up History. She may just take up Geog instead,
Because
Geography is more on understanding the wind, weather, soil condition, resources, etc. Geog is more \"Sciency\", so to speak, compared to History. Geog : Yes, u still need to remember lots of stuff. But if u can understand Geog, then remembering become easier.
2) repeat the above, with A-level TYS (Geog & History).
3) she must also factor in,
what other subjects is she taking too, besides just merely asking for ( History or Geog ) ?
Example
If she is taking Bio, that's already a very, very memory intensive subject,
then,
ask her -
How is she going to cope with History, another also equally demanding memory intensive subject, besides Bio ?
4) is she taking
Double or Triple Science ?
If is Triple Science,
these 3 Pure Science subjects are already very \"siong\",
very, very time consuming to revise. Hence,
her Humanities subject selected, cannot be too heavy, must be a \"light\" one.
Otherwise,
when come to time management, everything become \"im-balanced\", topple off, thrown everything off course, because she no time to study so many heavy intensive subjects, that demand her time. End up, she may not even do well in some of her Science subjects, if she were to spend so much time, focusing just on Humanities, trying to understand, trying to catch up, most of the time.
Therefore,
her choice of her other subjects are just as equally important too, besides just merely asking for (History or Geog) ?
Don't forget.
If your girl is in the O level track, there is also another compulsory brand new Upper Secondary subject to tackle, called \"Social studies\" (SS).
And SS : also got lots & lots of stuff,
need to remember !
5) what career options (opening), will she pursue, if she had studied History vs. Geog, in the university ?
Get her,
to think through,
this question, honestly.
TYS : Ten Year series
After gone through above 5 steps, your daughter will know what she want. You don't make the decision for her, because she is the one studying , not you. She will know for herself, what she want and how to cope -
quackyduck\" post_id=\"2086421\" time=\"1666362219\" user_id=\"199674:
Student taking pure humanity subject will also need to take elective humanity subject (SS+ humanity), because SS is compulsory for all students. That would mean your DD will still get to study both History and Geography, and it is a matter of study which one more (pure) which one less (elective humanity).
Hi, dd needs to choose pure humanities for her subject combination, either pure history or pure geography. She likes history and knows the content well but exam marks not great because she struggles with skills. Her geog A1, but she has no interest or passion and find it boring. Any advice which to take ?
If prioritise interest over scores, then choose History as pure humanity subject and Geo as elective humanity subject. If score is priority, then the other way round.
Since she is keen in History and is doing poorly because of skill, can that skill be brushed up with tuition?
In L1R5 aggregate score , student only need include 1 compulsory humanity subject. For this consideration, it will be good to plan towards at least 1 humanity subject can score well confidently.
SS can be tricky too and if not doing well it can pull down overall elective humanity score. So which humanity subject pair with SS may affect the overall score too -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2086433\" time=\"1666396837\" user_id=\"175278:
Some schools offer Elective Literature as well with SS
Student taking pure humanity subject will also need to take elective humanity subject (SS+ humanity), because SS is compulsory for all students. That would mean your DD will still get to study both History and Geography, and it is a matter of study which one more (pure) which one less (elective humanity).
If prioritise interest over scores, then choose History as pure humanity subject and Geo as elective humanity subject. If score is priority, then the other way round.
Since she is keen in History and is doing poorly because of skill, can that skill be brushed up with tuition?
In L1R5 aggregate score , student only need include 1 compulsory humanity subject. For this consideration, it will be good to plan towards at least 1 humanity subject can score well confidently.
SS can be tricky too and if not doing well it can pull down overall elective humanity score. So which humanity subject pair with SS may affect the overall score too -
quackyduck\" post_id=\"2086421\" time=\"1666362219\" user_id=\"199674:
The last sentence in bold is not entirely right.bbbay\" post_id=\"2086433\" time=\"1666396837\" user_id=\"175278:[quote=bbbay post_id=2086433 time=1666396837 user_id=175278]Student taking pure humanity subject will also need to take elective humanity subject (SS+ humanity), because SS is compulsory for all students. That would mean your DD will still get to study both History and Geography, and it is a matter of study which one more (pure) which one less (elective humanity).
Maybe the child is in O levels and has already decided on Elective Literature, and is asking for opinions on the 2nd humanities subject, choosing between History and Geography.
Maybe the child is in IP and only wants to study one humanities subject (choosing between H and G) or in IP and has decided on the first humanities subject, and is now asking how to choose between History and Geography for the 2nd humanities subject. -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2086433\" time=\"1666396837\" user_id=\"175278:
maybe your son's Secondary Chung Cheng High (Main) school
Student taking pure humanity subject will also need to take elective humanity subject (SS+ humanity), because SS is compulsory for all students. That would mean your DD will still get to study both History and Geography, and it is a matter of study which one more (pure) which one less (elective humanity).
If prioritise interest over scores, then choose History as pure humanity subject and Geo as elective humanity subject. If score is priority, then the other way round.
Since she is keen in History and is doing poorly because of skill, can that skill be brushed up with tuition?
In L1R5 aggregate score , student only need include 1 compulsory humanity subject. For this consideration, it will be good to plan towards at least 1 humanity subject can score well confidently.
SS can be tricky too and if not doing well it can pull down overall elective humanity score. So which humanity subject pair with SS may affect the overall score too
don't offer any
Elective \"Literature\", together with SS ?
A lot of Secondary school boys don't like \"Literature\". Often, they prefer to choose (study) History or Geog.
That's why
u keep harping on (History & Geog), be it a \"Half\" subject that goes together with SS
OR
a Full subject, on its own ?
SS : Social Studies
However,
in other Secondary schools,
example (All Girls school)
in PLMGS (Paya Lebar Methodist Girls' Secondary),
1) the Lit Teachers in PLMGS are very strong, very good. The Teachers here have been teaching Lit for many years, to several batches of PLMGS girls. Thus, they are very experienced in teaching Lit.
Hence,
many PLMGS girls offered Literature, in their Sec 3 subject combination, be they take it up as their \"HALF Lit\"
or
as their \"FULL Lit\" subject.
2) So,
there do exist Secondary schools after all, that still offer Literature, besides (History & Geog). -
quackyduck\" post_id=\"2086421\" time=\"1666362219\" user_id=\"199674:
Option 1: Since skills can be learnt, go with her interest. (If she is willing to put in the time and effort to learn.) Take History.
Hi, dd needs to choose pure humanities for her subject combination, either pure history or pure geography. She likes history and knows the content well but exam marks not great because she struggles with skills. Her geog A1, but she has no interest or passion and find it boring. Any advice which to take ?
Option 2. Be pragmatic and take geography. (Especially if she is taking O-levels, competition for popular courses are cut-throat.) -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2086475\" time=\"1666444799\" user_id=\"35251:
Aiya… the questioner said the DD likes history but don’t score well. And Geo score well but don’t like it. So history and Geo both works for the DD is some ways. So logically it will be between these 2……
maybe your son's Secondary Chung Cheng High (Main) school
don't offer any
Elective \"Literature\", together with SS ?
A lot of Secondary school boys don't like \"Literature\". Often, they prefer to choose (study) History or Geog.
That's why
u keep harping on (History & Geog), be it a \"Half\" subject that goes together with SS
OR
a Full subject, on its own ?
SS : Social Studies
However,
in other Secondary schools,
example (All Girls school)
in PLMGS (Paya Lebar Methodist Girls' Secondary),
1) the Lit Teachers in PLMGS are very strong, very good. The Teachers here have been teaching Lit for many years, to several batches of PLMGS girls. Thus, they are very experienced in teaching Lit.
Hence,
many PLMGS girls offered Literature, in their Sec 3 subject combination, be they take it up as their \"HALF Lit\"
or
as their \"FULL Lit\" subject.
2) So,
there do exist Secondary schools after all, that still offer Literature, besides (History & Geog).
If the situation for that parent is different, then so be it. That parent can pick the part of the suggestion that is useful to them and discard those not relevant. That is how gathering opinions from others work to me.
What you and I gathered from reading the same texts are different. We are considering different angles.
When you mentioned harping, it mean to talk about (a subject) constantly or repeatedly in an annoying way. This is the first time I offer my opinion to that parent in that subject. And I regret that it is annoying you. Pls try not to be affected by what others say, ok? It is not good for anyone in long run. And often it is misunderstanding. This case is a good example. And I never meant to annoy anyone.
Have a good long weekend 👍 -
quackyduck\" post_id=\"2086421\" time=\"1666362219\" user_id=\"199674:
When I advise my class on their choice of subject combination, I always ask them to weigh the benefits. One is their results. The other is their passion.
Hi, dd needs to choose pure humanities for her subject combination, either pure history or pure geography. She likes history and knows the content well but exam marks not great because she struggles with skills. Her geog A1, but she has no interest or passion and find it boring. Any advice which to take ?
Your DD's case is a classic example of what we love, we may not perform well.
I think to make it easier for DD, ask her if she plans to do anything History-related as a career. If her answer is \"no\", it shows that History is not really a passion but just a preference. So my advice is to choose Geography. Because it is not worth it to sacrifice her solid Geography results if she doesn't plan to do History in JC/Uni. I'm sure there are other subjects she finds boring as well, but because these are compulsory she has no choice. So why is Geography different? The main aim here is to achieve the best L1R5 points to be promoted to the next level. There she can afford to choose subjects she enjoys.
Someone mentioned the elective Humanities which is combined with Social Studies.
So an ideal combination for her is to do Pure Geography for results, and Elective History (weightage only 50%) for interest.
Do take note though, doing well for a subject in Lower Secondary need not necessarily guarantee the same for Upper Secondary, and vice-versa. Too many factors involved - higher level content, different coursework, different teacher etc.
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