Networking Group - JCs General

[Swc]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2096111\" time=\"1674885844\" user_id=\"13281:

H3s read and offered at the local universities - yes this can potentially count towards the modular credits requirements for uni (depending on course), if you eventually end up going to the uni you read the H3 in. Please don't consider this aspect as an advantage, it's only at most, 1 module.

MOE H3s - no they are not likely to count towards any degree requirement in Singapore. For UK universities, most don't even know what H3s actually are (they are an MOE invention so to say, and unique to Singapore). If you want any exemptions in US universities, or you want to prove/demonstrate academic competence, you are probably better off taking APs privately. Many NUS High students take APs. As the name suggests, they are Advance Placements.

There are many ways to demonstrate academic prowess if that is the way you want to build your own CV, and personally, my view is that H3s is probably the route that requires the most effort and it is not the way to stand out. If you want to stand out, go participate in a hackathon or essay writing competition - do something different. H3s are not a scholarship requirement. Nowadays, scholarship boards like to see kids taking their own initiative or doing something different. H3s allow students to engage with a subject more deeply - interest is key, without which, you may drop it along the way as it is tedious and time consuming. Also, it does not usually overlap or reinforce the H2 content (some subjects more than others).

Not true that UK universities do not know what H3 are. Quite a few, including Oxbridge, gives out conditional offers requiring a Distinction in certain H3 subjects. It all depends on whether the H3 subject taken is relevant to the uni course applied.

[doodbug]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2096115\" time=\"1674886473\" user_id=\"188234:

Just curious, why do you think the APs are more advantageous than H2 or IB HL? From what I have seen, most universities value them on par (although the APs are much more known to the US universities, as that is what many of the local kids there do to boost academic standing). Depending on the school, you will either be given explicit credit or you will most likely be able to test/place into a class that will give you credit for the basic/lower level classes. Some schools are also more restrictive than others and will only give a maximum number of credits or will only exempt certain classes. I.e. they want you to take the majority of your classes on campus in their system.

APs are advantageous in counting towards modular credits in some US unis.

This isn't a comparison of APs to H2 or IB HL in terms of recognition for admission or any other way; I've adjusted my original message to reflect so.

[doodbug]

Swc\" post_id=\"2096116\" time=\"1674886894\" user_id=\"178585:

Not true that UK universities do not know what H3 are. Quite a few, including Oxbridge, gives out conditional offers requiring a Distinction in certain H3 subjects. It all depends on whether the H3 subject taken is relevant to the uni course applied.

Cambridge yes; Oxford and the other Russel Group unis, I haven't seen/heard but I may be ignorant

I have adjusted my original message to reflect that I was referring to degree credit exemptions. H3s won't count towards fulfilling degree (not admission; degree) requirements in the UK.

[SG_KP1]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2096117\" time=\"1674886987\" user_id=\"13281:

APs are advantageous in counting towards modular credits in some US unis.

This isn't a comparison of APs to H2 or IB HL in terms of recognition for admission or any other way; I've adjusted my original message to reflect so.

OK, I understand what you are saying about H3 vs. AP for gaining (US) university credit.

Still, I believe many universities will give the same credit for H2 or IB HL (as AP).

[doodbug]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2096119\" time=\"1674887703\" user_id=\"188234:

OK, I understand what you are saying about H3 vs. AP for gaining (US) university credit.

Still, I believe many universities will give the same credit for H2 or IB HL (as AP).

For admissions to US unis, I would be happy if H2 and IB HL are recognized to be on par with the AP, though from my anecdotal (non scientific) conversations with American relatives, the baseline for assessing subject competence seems to be SATII (subject based) and APs are a further icing on the cake. So I am not sure if H2 and IB HL are seen to be equivalent to SATs or APs.

[SG_KP1]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2096120\" time=\"1674887930\" user_id=\"13281:

For admissions to US unis, I would be happy if H2 and IB HL are recognized to be on par with the AP, though from my anecdotal (non scientific) conversations with American relatives, the baseline for assessing subject competence seems to be SATII (subject based) and APs are a further icing on the cake. So I am not sure if H2 and IB HL are seen to be equivalent to SATs or APs.

Apologies, you may be correct (and one of my prior statements incorrect). I looked a bit closer at a couple of universities; generally speaking I would say all three (AP, H2, IB HL) will get you university credit but it appears a strong AP score (i.e. 5) may get you a bit more in some cases (in terms of university credit). In which case, there may still be some hierarchy for admissions.

Also, the SAT subject tests have gone the way of the dodo. Only AP at this point...

[doodbug]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2096128\" time=\"1674890450\" user_id=\"188234:

Apologies, you may be correct (and one of my prior statements incorrect). I looked a bit closer at a couple of universities; generally speaking I would say all three (AP, H2, IB HL) will get you university credit but it appears a strong AP score (i.e. 5) may get you a bit more in some cases (in terms of university credit). In which case, there may still be some hierarchy for admissions.

Also, the SAT subject tests have gone the way of the dodo. Only AP at this point...

Thanks for sharing!

oh yes you are right - my relatives went to college a few years back. SAT IIs recently became.....extinct lol!

[phtthp]

What is "AP" ?

[SG_KP1]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2096147\" time=\"1674897718\" user_id=\"35251:

What is \"AP\" ?

AP = Advanced Placement. It is a US exam taken by many Year 11-12 students (in USA) that is pitched at (US) University level standards.

https://ap.collegeboard.org/

[sharonkhoo]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2096128\" time=\"1674890450\" user_id=\"188234:

Also, the SAT subject tests have gone the way of the dodo. Only AP at this point...

Thanks for the alert! I didn't know this as my kids are way past this stage already. But I sometimes advise people - must remember to check more frequently, and especially before answering questions.