DSA 2023
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ashay\" post_id=\"2096519\" time=\"1675321252\" user_id=\"144558:
Yes, u can proceed to apply for 2 different talent domain, within the SAME Secondary school.
hi, anyone applied to 2 talent areas for the same school and experienced trial / interview timing clash? we are thinking of applying to 2 sports domains for the same school but concerned that the trials may clash.
However, do bear in mind that
u may be shortlisted for only one single domain, not both domain, depending on how the Secondary school view which Is your STRONGER domain.
Also, if u are short listed and if say, u are successful in DSA, if the school were to offer u either CO or WL, it will be only for
ONE single domain, only. -
Hihi,
Dont know if any DSA2022 parents still lurking here… but asking for a friend whose daughter intends to do DSA this year.
Anyone successfully got into PLMGS via DSA sports to be exact, volleyball last year 2022? Also what was her p6 mid year AL scores as well?
Thanks much! -
Hi everyone,
I'm new here. Now looking at DSA for my girl. A little late but I am here reading the procedures and related stuffs. I am a foreigner, only did uni in Singapore. Honestly, I am a bit reluctant about the DSA route now.
I wonder why they stream it so early like this because interests, and strength can change a lot over the years. My time, the kids who did extremely well in primary school usually fade out in secondary school. The top at JC level are 70-80% different from those top in secondary school, usually are late boomers. For me, I did some kind of literature in primary school and secondary school, similar to English here I guess. I used to make poems and stuffs back then lol, represented schools and province levels. In JC level, I did chemistry, but only found out later, I actually excelled in maths when I outperformed the gifted kids in maths team. I finally got into medical school mainly due to the maths. But, who would have imagined a girl who did literature in primary and secondary would have done best in Maths? My points is, I don't understand why they stream the children too soon like this. At this age, they really don't know what they are really good at. For secondary school, they should just let the children learn, and explore all subjects equally instead of streaming too soon like this. And once you choose something, you get stuck there, especially with the DSA route, which is extremely dangerous.
For sports, I can't imagine the pressure the children have to go through, especially if the children are forced to pick up the sports just for DSA and not for passion/gifted. I play some sports myself, and I kind of withdrew when I started to go into competitive. It is extremely painful physically and mentally despite I have real passion for those sports, and really not for everyone. DSA offers no way for backout if use sports. I can't imagine doing competitive sports for 6 years with no way out. As a matter of fact, nobody can be top of their game for years. What happened to those got into school using DSA sports then? Imagine the pressure the children go through. knowing what it takes, I don't know if I can live with it if I let the kids follow this route.
Shaking now. Anyone in similar situation?
Wow my first post in a forum in decades! -
yellowbus1010\" post_id=\"2096723\" time=\"1675592615\" user_id=\"200744:
the rationale for streaming in local education system:
Hi everyone,
I'm new here. Now looking at DSA for my girl. A little late but I am here reading the procedures and related stuffs. I am a foreigner, only did uni in Singapore. Honestly, I am a bit reluctant about the DSA route now.
I wonder why they stream it so early like this because interests, and strength can change a lot over the years. My time, the kids who did extremely well in primary school usually fade out in secondary school. The top at JC level are 70-80% different from those top in secondary school, usually are late boomers. For me, I did some kind of literature in primary school and secondary school, similar to English here I guess. I used to make poems and stuffs back then lol, represented schools and province levels. In JC level, I did chemistry, but only found out later, I actually excelled in maths when I outperformed the gifted kids in maths team. I finally got into medical school mainly due to the maths. But, who would have imagined a girl who did literature in primary and secondary would have done best in Maths? My points is, I don't understand why they stream the children too soon like this. At this age, they really don't know what they are really good at. For secondary school, they should just let the children learn, and explore all subjects equally instead of streaming too soon like this. And once you choose something, you get stuck there, especially with the DSA route, which is extremely dangerous.
For sports, I can't imagine the pressure the children have to go through, especially if the children are forced to pick up the sports just for DSA and not for passion/gifted. I play some sports myself, and I kind of withdrew when I started to go into competitive. It is extremely painful physically and mentally despite I have real passion for those sports, and really not for everyone. DSA offers no way for backout if use sports. I can't imagine doing competitive sports for 6 years with no way out. As a matter of fact, nobody can be top of their game for years. What happened to those got into school using DSA sports then? Imagine the pressure the children go through. knowing what it takes, I don't know if I can live with it if I let the kids follow this route.
Shaking now. Anyone in similar situation? Wow my first post in a forum in decades!
“In the 70s, a large number of students were having difficulty finishing primary school and dropping out. Streaming was introduced to cater to the different learning paces of students. This reduced the drop-out rate significantly.”
https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/assets/infographics/full-subject-based-banding/Evolution-of-Streaming.pdf
As for DSA, the selection process will identify candidates likely to fit; able to handle the demands from both talent and academics domains -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2096731\" time=\"1675599335\" user_id=\"175278:
Thanks for the reply. Streaming is necessary to develop the kids further into what they are really good at, but I don't think it's appropriate to stream too early like this. It doesn't make sense. From the quote you got from MOE website, isn;t it time to change base on life-long learning approach/innovation approach now?
the rationale for streaming in local education system:
“In the 70s, a large number of students were having difficulty finishing primary school and dropping out. Streaming was introduced to cater to the different learning paces of students. This reduced the drop-out rate significantly.”
https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/assets/infographics/full-subject-based-banding/Evolution-of-Streaming.pdf
They talk about holistic approach bla bla but at the end it's still grading base only. Honestly I was extremely shock when I first studied here. They did not seem to cultivate the environment for real learning, but only for grades. It goes all the way from primary all the way to uni. Students are trained to excel in exam ONLY, period.
[quote]As for DSA, the selection process will identify candidates likely to fit; able to handle the demands from both talent and academics domains[/quote]Actually, to win prizes, it is a full time job not many can do. I can't wrap my head around how kids could handle it on top of school work. It's not realistic. The DSA for non-academic idea is good, but I find those kids on program are in extreme hard spots.
I saw this video few times, and every time it still strike me hard: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnZc_tzhMSb
She talked about not wanting to be great anymore. The pressure of being on the top, and stay there.
but many people still want the DSA for sports. What happened to those kids who kind of drop the sport to focus on academic after gettting into the school? No punishment? -
yellowbus1010\" post_id=\"2096734\" time=\"1675601136\" user_id=\"200744:
I suppose local approach is to strive a balance between idealism and pragmatism. The SBB is already an evolution of the system: recognise both strength and weakness of each student. And when students become good at their weak subjects in later years, they can switch back to G3 (or whatever the equivalent of mainstream). So it’s not a case of box up, once streamed.
Thanks for the reply. Streaming is necessary to develop the kids further into what they are really good at, but I don't think it's appropriate to stream too early like this. It doesn't make sense. From the quote you got from MOE website, isn;t it time to change base on life-long learning approach/innovation approach now?
They talk about holistic approach bla bla but at the end it's still grading base only. Honestly I was extremely shock when I first studied here. They did not seem to cultivate the environment for real learning, but only for grades. It goes all the way from primary all the way to uni. Students are trained to excel in exam.
And our integrated program , allowing students explore outside the usual curriculum. You can Google more on it.
Each country has it unique set of constraints. Singapore has not much leeway relatively to other countries in some aspects. What works in one country may not work in another. -
I think the concern here is not if the child can cope eventually (which is also questionable as it is dependent on a lot of factors) but more what if the child’s interest in that domain wanes but he has to fulfil his commitment for the FULL 6 years
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Shyna\" post_id=\"2096740\" time=\"1675611533\" user_id=\"86797:
FOUR years, not six.
I think the concern here is not if the child can cope eventually (which is also questionable as it is dependent on a lot of factors) but more what if the child’s interest in that domain wanes but he has to fulfil his commitment for the FULL 6 years -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2096731\" time=\"1675599335\" user_id=\"175278:
The big picture is any country is geared towards providing for its well being. Economics being a large part of a small country without natural resources, being a child here means being part of this system of being prepared for its labour force.
the rationale for streaming in local education system:
“In the 70s, a large number of students were having difficulty finishing primary school and dropping out. Streaming was introduced to cater to the different learning paces of students. This reduced the drop-out rate significantly.”
https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/assets/infographics/full-subject-based-banding/Evolution-of-Streaming.pdf
As for DSA, the selection process will identify candidates likely to fit; able to handle the demands from both talent and academics domains -
Shyna\" post_id=\"2096740\" time=\"1675611533\" user_id=\"86797:
I for sure would not have enjoyed competitive sports, can't imagine the child has to do it at early age. But this is the only way to scout for local talents and groom them I guess. We parents should not rig the system, let it function the way
I think the concern here is not if the child can cope eventually (which is also questionable as it is dependent on a lot of factors) but more what if the child’s interest in that domain wanes but he has to fulfil his commitment for the FULL 6 years
it is supposed to be then? Would you let your child sacrifice a big part of their life, and probably a big part of their future for the nation's sport achievements given what you know? It's a dangerous game.
So any parents only started to prepare for the kids for DSA recently only?
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