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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • zac's mumZ Offline
      zac's mum
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      Dino\" post_id=\"2099417\" time=\"1677654471\" user_id=\"6726:

      Based on the responses so far, it seems like the majority of you welcome the changes? Sorry for this noob qn cos my kid is not jc yet so trying to understand as much as I can. Tks
      My kid also not in JC yet but it looks like a big step in reducing stress. Especially for the non-academically top kids and those from non-top JCs. Like trying to shift the competition away from just academics alone.

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        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2099419\" time=\"1677654719\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2099419 time=1677654719 user_id=53606]
        My kid also not in JC yet but it looks like a big step in reducing stress. Especially for the non-academically top kids and those from non-top JCs. Like trying to shift the competition away from just academics alone.[/quote]
        shifting the competition from academics alone, can be even more stressful and competitive for some.

        Given the many 70 pointers that we are envisaging, I cannot imagine the credentialism arms race that is about to begin!

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        • lee_ylL Offline
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          Up to 2,300 more places will be available in publicly funded universities in 2025:


          https://mothership.sg/2023/03/moe-life-cpr-increase-2025/

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          • iRabbitI Offline
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            zac's mum\" post_id=\"2099419\" time=\"1677654719\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2099419 time=1677654719 user_id=53606]
            My kid also not in JC yet but it looks like a big step in reducing stress. Especially for the non-academically top kids and those from non-top JCs. Like trying to shift the competition away from just academics alone.[/quote]
            What do you mean by 'non-academically top kids'?

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            • DinoD Offline
              Dino
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              doodbug\" post_id=\"2099420\" time=\"1677655066\" user_id=\"13281:

              shifting the competition from academics alone, can be even more stressful and competitive for some.

              Given the many 70 pointers that we are envisaging, I cannot imagine the credentialism arms race that is about to begin!
              I can see your pt..... Its the same logic like the change in PSLE scores...... suddenly there will be a bigger pool with the same scores. On the non-academic part, somehow kids with parents that have more resources will have advantage as well.

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                sushi88
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                Am I the only one who see the value of PW and MT? Let's put MT aside first and talk about PW first, MT another day. šŸ˜‚


                If our minds are just set on grades alone and nothing else, then the conclusion is a waste of time.

                In a child's school life, there are many important aspects for them such as social interaction(not everyone is an extrovert to find activities for themselves) in an academic project setting, team cooperation and it best simulates or mimicks the working teaming in the working world. Why is it still graded as pass or fail? If it is totally ungraded, nobody would want to participate. And after Covid plus the internet age, everyone is so comfy and cozy behind the keyboard and screen everyday. Debate, quarrel and dealing with riders are all part and parcel of growing up. Interacting with teachers on a project basis is also different when in a classroom setting. Also, the topics discussed in PW are useful, even understanding other groups' projects can be interesting.

                It's really not about the grades which is why it can be dropped to pass or fail, please appreciate MOE's objectives behind PW.

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                • iRabbitI Offline
                  iRabbit
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                  Dino\" post_id=\"2099417\" time=\"1677654471\" user_id=\"6726:

                  Based on the responses so far, it seems like the majority of you welcome the changes? Sorry for this noob qn cos my kid is not jc yet so trying to understand as much as I can. Tks
                  Generally speaking, any change to reduce academic stress is a good thing, except for those kids who are thriving the existing scheme I guess.

                  Something I still don't understand. So the 4th content-based subject has to be a H1 instead of H2? Then more free time to smell the roses?

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                  • zac's mumZ Offline
                    zac's mum
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                    iRabbit\" post_id=\"2099423\" time=\"1677655380\" user_id=\"51587:

                    What do you mean by 'non-academically top kids'?
                    Kids like mine who are on O level track and will enter JC via JAE (presumably mid to lower tier JC). They all want a chance to enter local U as well. Such kids may not get RP90, but RP70 plus X factor may be within reach?

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                      The current changes are to ease the rat race. Everyone who wants to be in the race shall get to race to the local universities at least. In the past only 2 universities to race for locally, now we will have the 7th one by 2024. So more kids would be able to qualify for the universities in time to come. They also drop the line between Express and Normal in the Secondary graduation certificate, merging back into one common qualification.

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                        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2099414\" time=\"1677654265\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2099414 time=1677654265 user_id=53606]
                        Because the current JC1 kids have already chosen their subject combis and also possibly started on their PW?[/quote]
                        The selection of the project has yet to be started. Soon.

                        Even if started, so what? The grading can change immediately without impacting the entry at all.

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