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[phtthp]

sembgal\" post_id=\"2099472\" time=\"1677663625\" user_id=\"5559:

These are the JCs currently offering KI. I wonder what will happen to their KI Teachers after 2023 since GP is compulsory subject instead of KI.

Raffles Junior College
Hwa Chong Junior College
Eunoia Junior College
Temasek Junior College
National Junior College

ACJC stopped offering it since 2022.

route these Teachers to teach some other A level subjects

[phtthp]

sushi88\" post_id=\"2099445\" time=\"1677658036\" user_id=\"100857:

Precisely, JC1 is a transition year and JC life is a short 2 years, it would be good to foster good working relationship with a group of friends in the course of doing PW. Think positively about it and build better friendships in a team. What I noticed was that even when 2 personalities could not get along at first, they would try to get along well and complete the project with a common goal in mind. It is an essential skill to develop. This is definitely superior to the \"cancel\" culture some cliques have. Actually PW is good for JAEs, they assimilate faster into existing cliques. MOE always thinks ahead.

If u are coming in from the O level track,

JC is effectively a very short one year 6 months period, unlike the IP students.

[sharonkhoo]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2099435\" time=\"1677656299\" user_id=\"13281:

oh dear it's a misconception that you need RP90 or close to it to enter university.

There are many courses in the local universities today, the RP requirements are in the 70s range.

Yes, my daughter got into NTU with RP 72.5. She was just below the 10% IGP for the course she applied for, but obviously made it within the 0-9%! Of course, the range of options narrows with lower RP.

[sharonkhoo]

sushi88\" post_id=\"2099439\" time=\"1677657218\" user_id=\"100857:

Isn't this similar to what we see in the working world? In the working world, we find risk taking is also frowned upon in some situations and then gotta learn how to weigh what is at stake. I feel that nothing is lost. It's great that the kids have contributed in creativity and thinking during the brainstorming and they also learned to appreciate that the teachers have another objective in mind to help them obtain grades. In other words, they have gone through the creative thinking process, except not the full scope was not submitted for grading, that was what I saw. What we need to understand about PW is that it drives many other objectives, so high creativity is not one of them unlike in competitions.

Well, as someone said, they could be doing something more useful. It depends on the teacher, I guess - give the students more time to brainstorm etc, possibly at the expense of performance (given limited time)? Or give very specific direction from the beginning, get better grades, but negate much of the benefit of doing a project?

[phtthp]

There may be some issue,

with this new A-level implementation.


1) Scenario #1

Let's say,
in your Upper Sec (3 & 4),
u happen to take Double Pure Science subject combination : that is, Pure (Physics + Chem)

4 years' later, at the end of Sec 4,
In your heart, u regretted not taken Sec 3 / Sec 4 Biology. You made a mistake, should have chosen Physics instead of Bio. But too late, cannot turn backwards the clock, to the beginning of Sec 3.

Let's say, in Year 5 JC1,
u take 4 H2 subjects.

But because let's say,
u not strong with Physics,
end up amongst your 4 H2 subjects, Physics turn out to be your lowest scored subject, in the actual A-level. So, by default, because Physics is your lowest scored subject, they turn your Physics into an \"H1\" subject, according to this article published below-

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/moe-changes-university-admission-scrapping-mid-year-exams-jc-033637474.html

Then how ?
How to enter University Engineering faculty courses, because they said that your Physics has become a \"H1\" subject, not H2 anymore. But the Engineering faculty which u desire to enter into, required Physics as a \"H2\" subject, not \"H1\" entry admission requirement. Then, how ?

OR


2) Scenario #2

Let's say another student didn't choose 4H2, but chose (3H2 + 1 H1) with PCME subject combination, with Economics being his \"H1\" subject.

But let's say, in the actual A-level, his Physics not strong. Turn out that this student did even worse in his H2 Physics, compared to H1 Econs. In other words, although Econs was his supposedly H1 subject, yet,in the end turned out that Physics was his lowest scored subject, amongst his \"3 H2 + 1 H1\" four subject combination.

Then, how ?
Now, Moe will turn his Physics into \"H1\" subject, just because Physics is this student's lowest score. Not Econs.

Again, same thing !
How, to enter Engineering faculty now, because Engineering faculty admission requirements stated clearly that need H2 Physics, not need H1 Physics, as an entry requirement ?

[zac's mum]

In Scenario 1, i think since the student has studied for and taken Physics at H2 level, the H2 content pre-requisite has been fulfilled. It’s just an admin detail that it has to be computed as a H1 subject for the Rank Point system that’s all. That’s what I understand.

[Laura02]

I think in theory these changes sound great! But things may not turn out as hoped for in real life. Just as how in theory including Project work in university entrance requirements sound great, but in pratice, well, …

So it maybe a good thing to delay implementation for a bit while we in this forum debate what may happen when the theory is put into pratice.
I can foresee a great number MORE people getting the maximum number of points; and most, if not all, shooting for the prestigious professional courses, as they already do. FYI, for the past few years, students do not need to score the max 90 points to get the coveted "interview".
Then the "plus" becomes important. I hope that the lessened academic workload frees up time for the students to apprentice at whichever profession they wish to pursue, and not at the big, successful pratices, but at the smaller, "neighbourhood" pratices. Afterall, over 50% of graduates will end up working there.

[MerlionInGermany]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2099483\" time=\"1677667014\" user_id=\"35251:

…
with this new A-level implementation.

1) Scenario #1
Let's say, in Year 5 JC1, u take 4 H2 subjects.

But because let's say,
u not strong with Physics,
end up amongst your 4 H2 subjects, Physics turn out to be your lowest scored subject, in the actual A-level. So, by default, because Physics is your lowest scored subject, they turn your Physics into an \"H1\" subject, according to this article published below-

Then how ?
How to enter University Engineering faculty courses, because they said that your Physics has become a \"H1\" subject, not H2 anymore. But the Engineering faculty which u desire to enter into, required Physics as a \"H2\" subject, not \"H1\" entry admission requirement. Then, how ?

This scenario will remain unchanged from the current. It is only for RP calculation. You have taken h2 physics and your cert will reflect that.

phtthp\" post_id=\"2099483\" time=\"1677667014\" user_id=\"35251:

2) Scenario #2

Let's say another student didn't choose 4H2, but chose (3H2 + 1 H1) with PCME subject combination, with Economics being his \"H1\" subject.

But let's say, in the actual A-level, his Physics not strong. Turn out that this student did even worse in his H2 Physics, compared to H1 Econs. In other words, although Econs was his supposedly H1 subject, yet,in the end turned out that Physics was his lowest scored subject, amongst his \"3 H2 + 1 H1\" four subject combination.

Then, how ?
Now, Moe will turn his Physics into \"H1\" subject, just because Physics is this student's lowest score. Not Econs.

In this scenario, your econs h1 will be included and rebased to 70. Like how the current system is, with regards to MTL. So no, MOE does not turn your h2 physics into a h1.

[pirate]

Laura02\" post_id=\"2099487\" time=\"1677667489\" user_id=\"26419:

I think in theory these changes sound great! But things may not turn out as hoped for in real life.

In real life, everything will still remain same same. Musical chairs will still be musical chairs. Ever played musical chairs?

:siam:

[sushi88]

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This chart is very clear.

Whatever you have studied as H2, they do not change even if the score is not great, eg. D and below
It simply reflects the competency level of H2 Physics is not having a good score but it cannot be changed to become a H1 subject. So scenario 1 is, if the other 3 H2 are good grades, grade of Physics can be left out in the UAS computation per the new chart. Maybe Engineering courses may state a minimum grade for H2 Physics in future if UAS is good enough to qualify but H2 Physics is not strong enough.

In scenario 2, the H1 subject is there as a safety net if it has a good score, assume \"A\" , then it can be used in the computation of UAS to improve it.

New system calculation
eg. H2= AAD H1=A GP = A
Then 20+20+12.5+10 = 62.5/70
Add in the H1, 20+20+12.5 +10+10 = 72.5/80 ---> 75/80 x 70 = 63.4275 <----Better score

eg. H2= AAD H1=A GP = A MT = A
Add H1 and MT 20+20+12.5+10+10+10 = 82.5/90 x 70 = 64.167 <----Even better score if MT is also an \"A\"

Btw, whether scenario 1 or 2, if Physics is consistently a low score subject in all exams, then please avoid applying for Engineering. If it is a one-off exam bad luck, then it's ok. Engineering is everything about understanding how things work.