DSA 2023
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Avenue3\" post_id=\"2099627\" time=\"1677799618\" user_id=\"45412:
If u are targeting CHS, then ask the teachers directly about the profile of kids who received CO cos I dont have insider info.
Thank you for your views.
I spoke to both MOE staff and kids from Catholic Hgh. So it is specific information. This was last year and things would have changed. In the past kids did get in with G5 and G6.
I understand that these kids may not have got it via DSA.
For those schools I listed, yes extremely competitive for that 1 Music/MEP CO. Some meet the profile and ace the audition but interview stage cannot convince the panel of their sincerity to the school(s). I know one kid who convinced all enough to obtain 3 COs. Of course could only pick 1 and then the other 2 had to be released to WLs (not necessarily music domain).
The rest of the MEP students come in via S1 posting, and not many from the entire S1 cohort want to apply for MEP actually, unless they are dead keen on persisting until O/A levels. I don’t think they are allowed to quit. And must commit to a music-related CCA also? -
Avenue3\" post_id=\"2099627\" time=\"1677799618\" user_id=\"45412:
DSA MEP selection and MEP selection for S1 cohort differs greatly. My info might be a bit outdated as they were from pre-covid days. But CHS DSA MEP selection - boys were asked to sit for a theory test of G5 and G6 standard. They also need to perform 2 contrasting pieces. If you want to get a guage of the standard of the audition performance, you can check out the annual National Piano and Violin Competition. Similar to the standard you hear at those competitions.
Thank you for your views.
I spoke to both MOE staff and kids from Catholic Hgh. So it is specific information. This was last year and things would have changed. In the past kids did get in with G5 and G6.
I understand that these kids may not have got it via DSA.
But for S1 cohort, those interested in MEP, their selection test and audition will be much easier. So yes, G5, G6, no problem. If they take MEP, they will need to take Music as a subject for O level (regardless of whether they are in IP or O level stream). However, they do not need to continue with Music for A level if they choose not to.
For those who are passionate about Music, MEP is a great program. It goes way beyond playing an instrument. And most students in MEP I know really enjoy the program.
I am not trying to dissuade you or your child from trying for MEP through DSA. Just wanted to share with you what you might encounter should you try this path. -
The chances of my kid getting in with G4 in an IP/IB school via DSA are zilch. I realise this.
I am blindly hoping that she can get shortlisted to interview/Junior Academy at SOTA for the sake of experience.
If we are lucky, she may get in via S1 posting, but that depends on her performance on the exam day. Whether she is 1 mark this side or that side for some subjects. -
Avenue3\" post_id=\"2099638\" time=\"1677804423\" user_id=\"45412:
If that is the best talent domain that your child can aim for (DD, so not targeting CHS then), then go ahead with the application. I was in similar boat in 2022 as well, just submitted the applications for the best 3 that I could think of for my child. I knew he was nowhere near the standard required & that the competition was tough. Need to manage expectations.
The chances of my kid getting in with G4 in an IP/IB school via DSA are zilch. I realise this.
I am blindly hoping that she can get shortlisted to interview/Junior Academy at SOTA for the sake of experience.
If we are lucky, she may get in via S1 posting, but that depends on her performance on the exam day. Whether she is 1 mark this side or that side for some subjects.
Just be aware that the audition preps will take time away from studying for PSLE. U as the parent would know whether she can cope. All the best! -
Avenue3\" post_id=\"2099638\" time=\"1677804423\" user_id=\"45412:
I don't think that's a blind hope.
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I am blindly hoping that she can get shortlisted to interview/Junior Academy at SOTA for the sake of experience.
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SOTA conducts its admission exercise via their talent academy (https://www.sota.edu.sg/admissions/talent-academy, so watch this space). SOTA is not as strict in https://www.sota.edu.sg/admissions/talent-academy/dsa-sec, i.e. less demanding than DSA but comparable to the MEP selection test. Potential music students are not required to have any formal training or certification in order to apply. It is a requirement that they are able to sight-read and sight-sing (which your kid will likely to have no problem clearing). Hence, SOTA should be able to accommodate students who have a strong interest, but not as 'developed' as one of those DSA CO candidates.
The main dilemma, however, is what happens when you get an offer from SOTA. Do you you accept SOTA's offer (assuming there's a CO) thereby forgoing all others, or do you decide to rely on PSLE result for the only schools? -
Avenue3\" post_id=\"2099638\" time=\"1677804423\" user_id=\"45412:
Please note that SOTA admits 100% of its Year 1 cohort through the DSA exercise and does not participate in the S1 Posting exercise post-PSLE. You also need to apply to SOTA directly (not via MOE DSA portal).
The chances of my kid getting in with G4 in an IP/IB school via DSA are zilch. I realise this.
I am blindly hoping that she can get shortlisted to interview/Junior Academy at SOTA for the sake of experience.
If we are lucky, she may get in via S1 posting, but that depends on her performance on the exam day. Whether she is 1 mark this side or that side for some subjects.
Note: SOTA may conduct a Supplementary Intake Exercise (SIE) in November post-PSLE subject to available vacancies.
All the best to your gal. -
I didn’t realise that there may be supplementary intake.
I do not have expectations, but my girl seems (over) confident…!!! And we have to manage her expectations.
We will still let her pursue coz I do not want too much focus on exams. Already stopped going to playground as it rains half the time. There should be some other activity other than studying …and music is better than TV shows !
If SOTA is successful, we will accept. I am a Math and Science person and liked going to playground… and frankly it’s a boring life without art and the inability to go to playground/adventure as and how I like.
Thank you. -
LimSX\" post_id=\"2098458\" time=\"1676944970\" user_id=\"200267:
I agree with what other parents have mentioned . Kids who can get a CO for badminton are in the national rankings and are well-known in the circle . So using leadership might have higher chances to getting an interview .
Understood that now is too early to choose which school to go. Try not to stress myself and my wife nor even dare talk about it with him at this moment (but will talk to him after mid-yr exam in May). I just take my times to gather facts & ideas about these schools bcoz it's important to him as this will change his life once decided (with no regret). Visiting these schools during open house will be a must to have a closer look and feel.
Thanks for the idea to talk to his coach to go other comps. I also wanted to see how far he can go (skills and rank). Agree and always hv this thought that out there sure got other kids play better & got better AL scores than him.
Perhaps will seek his school teacher's guidance and assistance to sharpening his interview skills if shortlisted for interview then.
AHsDad > Thanks. :salute:
But to clinch a CO, the kid must have a very strong selling point which he can sell off during the interview . During my daughter’s group interview (during covid 2 years back) , 1 girl spoke on going overseas to raise $200k . How can we beat that ? Needless to say , my girl didn’t clinch a CO .
So consider your DSA options very carefully so as not to waste the chance. Competition for RI dsa , even just the interview, is very very stiff .
Also choose the school wisely. Personally I find that the math syllabus in RI is quite accelerated vis-a-vis other Sec schools.
Think about which school your son will really be happy in . With a happy heart , the child will soar to his highest . Going to a top school doesn’t guarantee that ….. -
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"2099825\" time=\"1677889823\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2099825 time=1677889823 user_id=53606]
Thank you for sharing.
SOTA physical Open House 1 April 2023
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Has anyone done a comparison between SOTA vs MGS? Since both are doing IPIB. Thanks.
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