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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
      Zeal mummy
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      iRabbit\" post_id=\"2099867\" time=\"1677911275\" user_id=\"51587:

      I feel that the most precious present a sch can gift a student is the attribute of grit - the willingness to accept challenges, the courage to accept failures, the determination to stand up, and finally, the perseverance to try again.

      Grit, not straight As, is what will determine how successful one's kid will be in future.
      Agree with iRabbit on this, grit and resilience are keys to a child’s character development. Lifelong learning and adaptability too.

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      • bbbayB Offline
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        During interview, Education minister also mentioned he still expects students want to do well in that optional H1 subject , just like MT. Putting all together, can I then frame it as that optional subject is now place on the same level as MT, in term of its stake in UAS calculation? Relative stress level/impact it brings will then be in line to that of MT’s too.

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        • phtthpP Offline
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2099872\" time=\"1677914401\" user_id=\"17023:

          Let’s not get too hopeful that A levels students will now have time to pursue hobbies or interest just because one H1 subject is dropped.

          In all likelihood, the time freed up will be spent to ensure that the other 3 H2 subjects and GP can score distinction. As parents and students will imagine that other students will spend the extra time studying or building up their portfolio, it will still be an arms race of sorts. Which is why, I expect to see more RP70.

          Did MOE mention what if a lot of RP70 students apply for the same course? Will the Uni use balloting or look at other qualities to decide who to admit? If the latter, will the number of VIA hours completed become a critical criterion? Or will good interview skills (confident/articulate) become a key attribute?

          If want to find time for hobbies, then first get in to the preferred course of study in University. After all, over 3-4 years in Uni, one has more time for hobbies also. It must be recognized that A levels only has 1yr 10 mths, which is simply too short and compact.
          NO balloting involved, for popular university courses.

          If let's say,
          under the current existing up to the last year-2025 max 90 point marking system A-level, got more than say 2000+ applicants applying for a very highly popular in demand faculty X,

          then

          under maiden year 2026 when she become max 70 points system, what happen ?

          In year 2026,
          Instead of receiving 2000+ applications, situation become uni received more than 4000+ applicants, since more applicants are able to score 70 points now.

          So from the original situation 2000+ applications received, from there short-listed to interview 1000 candidates,

          Now become changed to

          much more intense, fiercer competition situation -
          from 4000+ applications received, from there short-listed to interview 2000 candidates.

          But, the number of vacancies offered in the end, still remain un-changed. They won't increase 2026 students' intake into faculty X,
          just because
          90 points become 70 points now.

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          • Zeal mummyZ Offline
            Zeal mummy
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            bbbay\" post_id=\"2099918\" time=\"1677925163\" user_id=\"175278:

            During interview, Education minister also mentioned he still expects students want to do well in that optional H1 subject , just like MT. Putting all together, can I then frame it as that optional subject is now place on the same level as MT, in term of its stake in UAS calculation? Relative stress level/impact it brings will then be in line to that of MT’s too.

            https://postimg.cc/RqkRjx0r

            The 4th content-based subject will be included and rebased to 70, only if it improves the UAS.

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            • bbbayB Offline
              bbbay
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              Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2099927\" time=\"1677926755\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2099927 time=1677926755 user_id=58173]
              https://postimg.cc/RqkRjx0r

              The 4th content-based subject will be included and rebased to 70, only if it improves the UAS.[/quote]
              Just like MT then?

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              • phtthpP Offline
                phtthp
                last edited by

                lee_yl\" post_id=\"2099872\" time=\"1677914401\" user_id=\"17023:

                Let’s not get too hopeful that A levels students will now have time to pursue hobbies or interest just because one H1 subject is dropped.

                In all likelihood, the time freed up will be spent to ensure that the other 3 H2 subjects and GP can score distinction. As parents and students will imagine that other students will spend the extra time studying or building up their portfolio, it will still be an arms race of sorts. Which is why, I expect to see more RP70.

                Did MOE mention what if a lot of RP70 students apply for the same course? Will the Uni use balloting or look at other qualities to decide who to admit? If the latter, will the number of VIA hours completed become a critical criterion? Or will good interview skills (confident/articulate) become a key attribute?

                If want to find time for hobbies, then first get in to the preferred course of study in University. After all, over 3-4 years in Uni, one has more time for hobbies also. It must be recognized that A levels only has 1yr 10 mths, which is simply too short and compact.
                For O-level students taking A-level, is effectively a 1.5 years program.

                But,
                for IP students taking A-level, it start in Sec 4, when certain chapters are being brought down to their Sec 4 level, slowly introduced and IP teachers start to teach. So, for IP students preparing A-level, it is effectively a 2.5 year program

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                • phtthpP Offline
                  phtthp
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                  Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2099927\" time=\"1677926755\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2099927 time=1677926755 user_id=58173]
                  https://postimg.cc/RqkRjx0r

                  The 4th content-based subject will be included and rebased to 70, only if it improves the UAS.[/quote]
                  This is something, that MOE has not explained in detail. Can only ask the Junior Colleges, for more detailed example & info. All Sec 4 students are awaiting briefing, from school Principal, concerning this. That's why Principal has invited Eunoia Junior College plus another JC, to go down Sec school premises, explain how the 4th subject works

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                  • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                    Zeal mummy
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                    bbbay\" post_id=\"2099928\" time=\"1677927072\" user_id=\"175278:

                    Just like MT then?
                    It depends on the level of the 4th subject taken at that time. Students can still choose to do a 4th H2.

                    We are only told so much right now, that, “The 4th content-based subject will be included and rebased to 70, only if it improves the UAS.”

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                    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                      Zeal mummy
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                      phtthp\" post_id=\"2099932\" time=\"1677927319\" user_id=\"35251:

                      This is something, that MOE has not explained in detail. Can only ask the Junior Colleges, for more detailed example & info. All Sec 4 students are awaiting briefing, from school Principal, concerning this. That's why Principal has invited Eunoia Junior College plus another JC, to go down Sec school premises, explain how the 4th subject works
                      Do share with us, after the talk. I speculate that schools will have their discretionary rights based on the ability of each cohort/student.

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                      • bbbayB Offline
                        bbbay
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                        Hmm… I thought all are clear:



                        No change:
                        - still 4 content base, GP , PW , MT
                        - if all 4 content base are H2, like before, the lowest scoring H2 will be treated as H1

                        Change:
                        - UAS calculation will include 3 H2 and GP
                        - PW is now graded as pass or fail. Student will need a pass
                        - that H1 subject, just like the current MT’s treatment, will be included only if it improve UAS

                        Therefore the H1 subject now will have similar impact as MT.

                        Am I missing something?

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