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I hope that with this reduced emphasis on academic achievement (how many of us can do better then Chat GPT ) students can learn more to think about how the theoretical subjects they are studying can have real world applications. For example, when they learn about electricity (is it P5 or P6?) they can also be taught how to change a plug. I hope our kids can also learn to link how simle actions they do can have a bigger impact. For example, how to check if the electrical rice cooker is not working, it may simply require a change of fuse in the plug (or is there another fuse somewhere else?). No need to throw away the whole appliance and contribute further to our growing pile of waste. Or simply be really bored enough to sit by a stream and philosophise that water is made up of tiny, indivisible particle (which thousands of years later led to the discovery of molecules, atoms, quarks and quasers).
Actually, I think that all of us should try to think about the "BIG PICTURE". Too much focus on the details and how to get one up from tweeking the details is taking our society down a path of individual selfishness and short term gain at the expense of the larger long term improvement for all. -
Laura02\" post_id=\"2102275\" time=\"1679531144\" user_id=\"26419:
Agree with you in general. I would add things like simple sewing and cooking, and gluing of broken items and shoes, etc. But not to actually change plugs (see below).
I hope that with this reduced emphasis on academic achievement (how many of us can do better then Chat GPT ) students can learn more to think about how the theoretical subjects they are studying can have real world applications. For example, when they learn about electricity (is it P5 or P6?) they can also be taught how to change a plug. I hope our kids can also learn to link how simle actions they do can have a bigger impact. For example, how to check if the electrical rice cooker is not working, it may simply require a change of fuse in the plug (or is there another fuse somewhere else?). No need to throw away the whole appliance and contribute further to our growing pile of waste. Or simply be really bored enough to sit by a stream and philosophise that water is made up of tiny, indivisible particle (which thousands of years later led to the discovery of molecules, atoms, quarks and quasers).
Actually, I think that all of us should try to think about the \"BIG PICTURE\". Too much focus on the details and how to get one up from tweeking the details is taking our society down a path of individual selfishness and short term gain at the expense of the larger long term improvement for all.
A story - I decided to teach my girls how to change plugs (years ago now), only to reliase that, these days, most appliances come with plugs sealed onto the cables! I learned to change plugs as a girl, and it came in very useful when I studied overseas as I lived in a very old building with a type of plug (now obsolete) that adaptors couldn't be found for. I had to change the plugs for my rice cooker, kettle and hairdryer when I moved in, and also had to change the plug of my hairdryer at the beginning and end of each vacation! My father never envisioned that his lesson would come in so useful. -
lol slmkhoo! Gone are the days you can change plugs and mod appliances in the UK!
Nowadays, even at university halls/hostels, many require every occupant to undergo a PAT (electrical equipment testing) and you got to declare all your equipment/appliances for the electrician to check, and determine whether they are allowed to be used! -
Laura02\" post_id=\"2102275\" time=\"1679531144\" user_id=\"26419:
Is ChatGPT giving the correct answers all the time?
how many of us can do better then Chat GPT
I posted a question to it, written in 2 slightly different ways. See attached screen shots for my questions and how ChatGPT replies in both times.
https://postimg.cc/yWL0mMck
https://postimg.cc/JsfNyjJx
a CEO has many staffs at his disposal to propose business plans/ press releases etc. quite like we have at our disposal ChatGPT now. The CEO job is to judge the proposed plans and take responsibility for them. Just like we have to judge ChatGPT output and take responsibility for their usage. A CEO has to be well
educated to make sound judgements. We still have to be continue educated to utilised ChatGPT well?
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doodbug\" post_id=\"2102288\" time=\"1679533438\" user_id=\"13281:
If anyone wants to see the old sockets I had in my college room in the 1980s:
lol slmkhoo! Gone are the days you can change plugs and mod appliances in the UK!
Nowadays, even at university halls/hostels, many require every occupant to undergo a PAT (electrical equipment testing) and you got to declare all your equipment/appliances for the electrician to check, and determine whether they are allowed to be used!
https://www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/OldBritish1.html
They were the smallest ones - pix 3 & 6. According to this site, it was installed from the 1930s to 1950s. -
Agree that sewing and cooking are a few useful skills to have… and learning them can be fun when it’s through VIA / outdoor camps (gotten basic skills from food-design lessons in school).
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bbbay\" post_id=\"2102298\" time=\"1679537321\" user_id=\"175278:
To be fair to ChatGPT, this question has no answer yet.
Is ChatGPT giving the correct answers all the time?
I posted a question to it, written in 2 slightly different ways. See attached screen shots for my questions and how ChatGPT replies in both times.
https://postimg.cc/yWL0mMck
https://postimg.cc/JsfNyjJx
a CEO has many staffs at his disposal to propose business plans/ press releases etc. quite like we have at our disposal ChatGPT now. The CEO job is to judge the proposed plans and take responsibility for them. Just like we have to judge ChatGPT output and take responsibility for their usage. A CEO has to be well
educated to make sound judgements. We still have to be continue educated to utilised ChatGPT well?
ChatGPT is not designed to do future prediction, perhaps not yet...never know how fancy Elon Musk and his team will go.
Computing is always GIGO.
1. If a question is still in a state of confusion, the answer is surely confused, can't blame ChatGPT.
2. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes the mistake, it is a programming fault. (that's your point which is valid if a definitive answer exists)
3. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes no mistake no matter how the question is being asked, then you know ChatGPT is getting as close as you know to a real human and better. It is definitely a possibility because answering something with a definitive answer is their forte that no man can beat. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2102278\" time=\"1679531681\" user_id=\"28674:
You are bold to change plugs!!
Agree with you in general. I would add things like simple sewing and cooking, and gluing of broken items and shoes, etc. But not to actually change plugs (see below).
A story - I decided to teach my girls how to change plugs (years ago now), only to reliase that, these days, most appliances come with plugs sealed onto the cables! I learned to change plugs as a girl, and it came in very useful when I studied overseas as I lived in a very old building with a type of plug (now obsolete) that adaptors couldn't be found for. I had to change the plugs for my rice cooker, kettle and hairdryer when I moved in, and also had to change the plug of my hairdryer at the beginning and end of each vacation! My father never envisioned that his lesson would come in so useful.
I always think one needs proper license to change plugs like a driver needs license to drive on the road.
It is about the safety of everyone. One wrong move can bring down a whole house! Nevertheless, kudos to your skills mastered.
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sushi88\" post_id=\"2102341\" time=\"1679542991\" user_id=\"100857:
Hmm.. Those not well informed will take it as truth. You are well informed so you know how to put thing in perspective with the answer given to you by ChatGPT? :rahrah: still call for discerning users? :nunchuk:
To be fair to ChatGPT, this question has no answer yet.
ChatGPT is not designed to do future prediction, perhaps not yet...never know how fancy Elon Musk and his team will go.
Computing is always GIGO.
1. If a question is still in a state of confusion, the answer is surely confused, can't blame ChatGPT.
2. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes the mistake, it is a programming fault. (that's your point which is valid if a definitive answer exists)
3. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes no mistake no matter how the question is being asked, then you know ChatGPT is getting as close as you know to a real human and better. It is definitely a possibility because answering something with a definitive answer is their forte that no man can beat. -
sushi88\" post_id=\"2102343\" time=\"1679543198\" user_id=\"100857:
It's very simple as long as you remember the basic principles. And while you're doing it, it's not connected to electricity. With circuit breakers now, the risk is low to the building even if you get it wrong. My father taught me when I was in my teens. But the skill is now obsolete!
You are bold to change plugs!!
I always think one needs proper license to change plugs like a driver needs license to drive on the road.
It is about the safety of everyone. One wrong move can bring down a whole house! Nevertheless, kudos to your skills mastered.
With the high cost of labour now, we need to prepare our kids to do more DIY.
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