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    • bbbayB Offline
      bbbay
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      Laura02\" post_id=\"2102275\" time=\"1679531144\" user_id=\"26419:

      how many of us can do better then Chat GPT
      Is ChatGPT giving the correct answers all the time?
      I posted a question to it, written in 2 slightly different ways. See attached screen shots for my questions and how ChatGPT replies in both times.


      https://postimg.cc/yWL0mMck

      https://postimg.cc/JsfNyjJx


      a CEO has many staffs at his disposal to propose business plans/ press releases etc. quite like we have at our disposal ChatGPT now. The CEO job is to judge the proposed plans and take responsibility for them. Just like we have to judge ChatGPT output and take responsibility for their usage. A CEO has to be well
      educated to make sound judgements. We still have to be continue educated to utilised ChatGPT well? 😄

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      • sharonkhooS Offline
        sharonkhoo
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        doodbug\" post_id=\"2102288\" time=\"1679533438\" user_id=\"13281:

        lol slmkhoo! Gone are the days you can change plugs and mod appliances in the UK!
        Nowadays, even at university halls/hostels, many require every occupant to undergo a PAT (electrical equipment testing) and you got to declare all your equipment/appliances for the electrician to check, and determine whether they are allowed to be used!
        If anyone wants to see the old sockets I had in my college room in the 1980s:
        https://www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/OldBritish1.html
        They were the smallest ones - pix 3 & 6. According to this site, it was installed from the 1930s to 1950s.

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        • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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          Agree that sewing and cooking are a few useful skills to have… and learning them can be fun when it’s through VIA / outdoor camps (gotten basic skills from food-design lessons in school).

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            last edited by

            bbbay\" post_id=\"2102298\" time=\"1679537321\" user_id=\"175278:

            Is ChatGPT giving the correct answers all the time?
            I posted a question to it, written in 2 slightly different ways. See attached screen shots for my questions and how ChatGPT replies in both times.


            https://postimg.cc/yWL0mMck

            https://postimg.cc/JsfNyjJx


            a CEO has many staffs at his disposal to propose business plans/ press releases etc. quite like we have at our disposal ChatGPT now. The CEO job is to judge the proposed plans and take responsibility for them. Just like we have to judge ChatGPT output and take responsibility for their usage. A CEO has to be well
            educated to make sound judgements. We still have to be continue educated to utilised ChatGPT well? 😄
            To be fair to ChatGPT, this question has no answer yet. 😂
            ChatGPT is not designed to do future prediction, perhaps not yet...never know how fancy Elon Musk and his team will go. 🤷

            Computing is always GIGO.
            1. If a question is still in a state of confusion, the answer is surely confused, can't blame ChatGPT.
            2. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes the mistake, it is a programming fault. (that's your point which is valid if a definitive answer exists)
            3. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes no mistake no matter how the question is being asked, then you know ChatGPT is getting as close as you know to a real human and better. It is definitely a possibility because answering something with a definitive answer is their forte that no man can beat.

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              slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2102278\" time=\"1679531681\" user_id=\"28674:

              Agree with you in general. I would add things like simple sewing and cooking, and gluing of broken items and shoes, etc. But not to actually change plugs (see below).

              A story - I decided to teach my girls how to change plugs (years ago now), only to reliase that, these days, most appliances come with plugs sealed onto the cables! I learned to change plugs as a girl, and it came in very useful when I studied overseas as I lived in a very old building with a type of plug (now obsolete) that adaptors couldn't be found for. I had to change the plugs for my rice cooker, kettle and hairdryer when I moved in, and also had to change the plug of my hairdryer at the beginning and end of each vacation! My father never envisioned that his lesson would come in so useful.
              You are bold to change plugs!!
              I always think one needs proper license to change plugs like a driver needs license to drive on the road.
              It is about the safety of everyone. One wrong move can bring down a whole house! 😂 Nevertheless, kudos to your skills mastered.

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              • bbbayB Offline
                bbbay
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                sushi88\" post_id=\"2102341\" time=\"1679542991\" user_id=\"100857:

                To be fair to ChatGPT, this question has no answer yet. 😂
                ChatGPT is not designed to do future prediction, perhaps not yet...never know how fancy Elon Musk and his team will go. 🤷

                Computing is always GIGO.
                1. If a question is still in a state of confusion, the answer is surely confused, can't blame ChatGPT.
                2. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes the mistake, it is a programming fault. (that's your point which is valid if a definitive answer exists)
                3. If a question has a definitive answer existing somewhere, then if ChatGPT makes no mistake no matter how the question is being asked, then you know ChatGPT is getting as close as you know to a real human and better. It is definitely a possibility because answering something with a definitive answer is their forte that no man can beat.
                Hmm.. Those not well informed will take it as truth. You are well informed so you know how to put thing in perspective with the answer given to you by ChatGPT? :rahrah: still call for discerning users? :nunchuk:

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                • sharonkhooS Offline
                  sharonkhoo
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                  sushi88\" post_id=\"2102343\" time=\"1679543198\" user_id=\"100857:

                  You are bold to change plugs!!
                  I always think one needs proper license to change plugs like a driver needs license to drive on the road.
                  It is about the safety of everyone. One wrong move can bring down a whole house! 😂 Nevertheless, kudos to your skills mastered.
                  It's very simple as long as you remember the basic principles. And while you're doing it, it's not connected to electricity. With circuit breakers now, the risk is low to the building even if you get it wrong. My father taught me when I was in my teens. But the skill is now obsolete!

                  With the high cost of labour now, we need to prepare our kids to do more DIY.

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                    sushi88
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                    bbbay\" post_id=\"2102345\" time=\"1679544522\" user_id=\"175278:

                    Hmm.. Those not well informed will take it as truth. You are well informed so you know how to put thing in perspective with the answer given to you by ChatGPT? :rahrah: still call for discerning users? :nunchuk:

                    And both times ChatGPT gave different answers. So it boiled down to “luck” what the users get? 😓
                    I think what's important for people to know is ChatGPT could potentially pose as a problem in the long run.
                    It's current state is not it's invincible state yet but know that it can become invincible with time and it's not just ChatGPT.

                    Ignorance is making us contributing to its growth to become invincible because we love free clouds. 😂

                    So legislation bodies need to get their act together faster than the building of these apps and watch vigilantly.

                    Specifically for your question, the ChatGPT is actually intelligent enough to \"predict\" that these are the 2 possible answers based on currently available information, just not able to put both together and articulate that properly yet as possible answers and hence look like 2 disjoint answers.

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                      slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2102350\" time=\"1679545472\" user_id=\"28674:

                      It's very simple as long as you remember the basic principles. And while you're doing it, it's not connected to electricity. With circuit breakers now, the risk is low to the building even if you get it wrong. My father taught me when I was in my teens. But the skill is now obsolete!

                      With the high cost of labour now, we need to prepare our kids to do more DIY.
                      That's true with the circuit breakers.
                      Still, if one does not do it often enough like a regular job, it's still dangerous especially if one forgets wet hands handling when the power is turned back on. :yikes:

                      Maybe I am paranoid. It really depends on the person. I figured you are meticulous enough and have a good memory so it's fine.

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                      • Imp75I Offline
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                        Hahaha my accountant-trained hubs was often mistaken as someone with a vocational training license as he can do many handyman jobs……he even said he wanna set up a volunteer organisation to help people with those handyman jobs…. I asked him how he did it (ie his skill sets), he said it’s actually not difficult to follow YouTube’s…. I said no thanks hahaha…… in fact amongst my peers most prefer to outsource at any small repairs works in the house……

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