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    Is Algebra allowed for PSLE Math?

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    • tinker_bellT Offline
      tinker_bell
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      kaisuism\" post_id=\"2104337\" time=\"1680757356\" user_id=\"199574:

      Maybe that's what happen to Nan Hua and some other students in last year's PSLE where their math dropped below their expected level.
      Ya, some parents in one of the parents chatgroup claimed that the entire group of 11 nan hua students used secondary school algebra for their psle mathematics paper, so that is why all did so badly.

      \"https://www.zaobao.com.sg/forum/talk/story20221201-1339038\"

      I found it very odd that SEAB immediately identified the algebra issue as something they have to address, when the zaobao forum letter from the nan hua students parents made no mention of methods used in the exam or even algebra techniques specifically.

      https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/psle-maths-algebra-full-credit-nan-hua-primary-forum-letter-seab-3131246

      SEAB knows something that we don't?

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      • tinker_bellT Offline
        tinker_bell
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        MOE very rigid, forcing everyone to learn the mathematical modeling method just make everyone's life difficult. As if all students are robots waiting to be programmed.


        No wonder why all the PSLE math tuition centres come out with their own methods.

        https://www.oodleslearning.com/

        https://nicklebeetutors.com/

        https://www.ammielwan.com.sg/

        https://www.conceptmath.com/

        https://www.sakamoto.net/

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        • lee_ylL Offline
          lee_yl
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          kaisuism\" post_id=\"2104337\" time=\"1680757356\" user_id=\"199574:

          Maybe that's what happen to Nan Hua and some other students in last year's PSLE where their math dropped below their expected level.
          Possible if indeed a section C question has been marked based on either full marks or zero mark if students chose to use the Algebra method.

          Too bad NH parents who appealed, did not get to see their kids’ papers, so they don’t even know where went wrong.

          If MOE accepts Algebra/Sakamoto/Unit Transfer and whatever methods out there, then should it award children marks for their working along the way even if the final answer may not be correct?

          However, since MOE only teaches the Model method, and PSLE is a standard exam, then it is also fair to MOE that the marking rubric is only based on the Model Method taught in schools but MOE has to be clear on that lah.

          No one knows the marking rubric for using Algebra right? I would say MOE is at fault if most parents only know that using other methods are acceptable but not aware that zero mark will be awarded if the final answer is wrong. MOE needs to be clear and upfront about this cos it will affect those taking PSLE.

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          • Zeal mummyZ Offline
            Zeal mummy
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            Moral of the story, do not go for tuition to learn algebra! It is better to learn and follow the school syllabus closely; basic algebra is taught in p6. Our students need to pay attention in class! Ask their teachers if they don’t understand.

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            • zac's mumZ Offline
              zac's mum
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              Schootopia\" post_id=\"2104513\" time=\"1680855476\" user_id=\"143961:

              Sec 2 Maths textbook. FYI.


              https://ibb.co/n8J6Sfm
              Thx for sharing. Am I right to presume that if a Sec 2 student uses the primary school “diagram” method in his Sec 2 school exam, he will be given 0 marks, rationale being that the school wants/needs to assess whether the kids have learnt the Sec 2 method of solving the same problem?

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              • phtthpP Offline
                phtthp
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                zac's mum\" post_id=\"2104514\" time=\"1680856109\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2104514 time=1680856109 user_id=53606]
                Thx for sharing. Am I right to presume that if a Sec 2 student uses the primary school “diagram” method in his Sec 2 school exam, he will be given 0 marks, rationale being that the school wants/needs to assess whether the kids have learnt the Sec 2 method of solving the same problem?[/quote]
                In Sec 2,
                No more using primary school Algebra method.

                Yes, will get zero mark, in Weighted Assessments, if still use primary school method.

                Why ?

                Because

                ALREADY in SECONDARY school ! Follow the method taught by your class Secondary school teacher !

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                • lee_ylL Offline
                  lee_yl
                  last edited by

                  So is it common knowledge among the majority of the PSLE parents that one either scores FULL marks or ZERO mark if one chooses to use algebra?

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                  • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                    Zeal mummy
                    last edited by

                    If they teach you tennis and you use a badminton racket, should you be given points for scoring? I think it’s the same logic, please use the method that is being taught.

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                    • lee_ylL Offline
                      lee_yl
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                      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2104528\" time=\"1680864993\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2104528 time=1680864993 user_id=58173]
                      If they teach you tennis and you use a badminton racket, should you be given points for scoring? I think it’s the same logic, please use the method that is being taught.[/quote]
                      But for the tennis competition, organizer said one is allowed to use badminton racket wor. 😂

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                      • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                        Zeal mummy
                        last edited by

                        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2104529\" time=\"1680865236\" user_id=\"17023:

                        But for the tennis competition, organizer said one is allowed to use badminton racket wor. 😂
                        No.. you’re allowed to use different brands of tennis rackets. You cannot score with a badminton racket.

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