Is Algebra allowed for PSLE Math?
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Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2105506\" time=\"1681483218\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2105506 time=1681483218 user_id=58173]
So you feel marks will be awarded if working is correct just like how examiners mark questions solved by the model method.
According to my interpretation, if working is correct but you wrote the wrong answer (transfer error?) then it will be marked like how a model method will be marked with a wrong answer. However, (I feel) most schools discourage the use of it as it is more likely the application is wrong from the start and it shows a lack of understanding of the algebraic methods.[/quote]
But this is not what the person who started this thread says as she claimed her school HOD told her no working marks will be given if final answer is wrong when the problem is solved using algebra.
Still need SEAB, as the final arbiter to state in simple layman language the policy. -
The person who started this thread says her son is only in P5 and that his teacher wanted him to learn and be tested using the model method. I think his teacher is right, this is so that her son can learn the methods that is taught in school.
And regarding the comment on, “no working marks will be given if final answer is wrong when the problem is solved using algebra.” We are assuming that the method was used wrongly and thus wrong answer. She did not say that all the workings was done correctly and final answer was wrong. -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2105509\" time=\"1681486317\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2105509 time=1681486317 user_id=58173]
“A few parents complained to the school, but the HOD backed the teacher. The HOD said that MOE officially accepts Algebra for use in the PSLE Math exam, but during the marking of the PSLE Math paper, no method marks will be credited if the final answer is wrong. In other words, the student has only 2 possible outcomes if they use Algebra, either get full marks or zero marks for the question. That is why the HOD set a policy to blanket ban Algebra. Should we make an official complaint to MOE?”
And regarding the comment on, “no working marks will be given if final answer is wrong when the problem is solved using algebra.” We are assuming that the method was used wrongly and thus wrong answer. She did not say that all the workings was done correctly and final answer was wrong.[/quote]
The above was quoted from the parent’s first post. Her post was very clear, only 2 outcomes when using algebra, either full marks or zero marks. No method marks given even if working is correct but wrong answer.
If I were the HOD, I will also ask the P6 students to think twice before using Algebra. Unless one is very sure his/her final answer is correct, or else straight away zero mark. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2105515\" time=\"1681488142\" user_id=\"17023:
Read carefully. It is her own interpretation that there are only 2 outcomes. When we say that the final answer is wrong, it is more likely that the method was applied wrongly. However, I could be wrong too.. but this is my interpretation.
“A few parents complained to the school, but the HOD backed the teacher. The HOD said that MOE officially accepts Algebra for use in the PSLE Math exam, but during the marking of the PSLE Math paper, no method marks will be credited if the final answer is wrong. In other words, the student has only 2 possible outcomes if they use Algebra, either get full marks or zero marks for the question. That is why the HOD set a policy to blanket ban Algebra. Should we make an official complaint to MOE?”
The above was quoted from the parent’s first post. Her post was very clear, only 2 outcomes when using algebra, either full marks or zero marks. No method marks given even if working is correct but wrong answer.
If I were the HOD, I will also ask the P6 students to think twice before using Algebra. Unless one is very sure his/her final answer is correct, or else straight away zero mark. -
\"If I see let 'x' be oranges and 'y' be bananas, no method mark. If I see equations '2x + 3y = 50' also no method mark. If you use Algebra and you get correct, only answer marks will be given.\"
Above paragraph was quoted from the parent.
If student wrote:
Let X be oranges and Y be bananas
2X + 3Y = 50
Assume the above workings are correct but final answer is wrong, student will not get any method marks as only answer marks given if final answer is correct. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2105519\" time=\"1681489572\" user_id=\"17023:
I believe this was what the P5 teacher said. And at P5 they are teaching model methods.. do we really want to glorify the methods taught in tuition centers or learn at the school?
\"If I see let 'x' be oranges and 'y' be bananas, no method mark. If I see equations '2x + 3y = 50' also no method mark. If you use Algebra and you get correct, only answer marks will be given.\"
Above paragraph was quoted from the parent.
If student wrote:
Let X be oranges and Y be bananas
2X + 3Y = 50
Assume the above workings are correct but final answer is wrong, student will not get any method marks as only answer marks given if final answer is correct. -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2105520\" time=\"1681489853\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2105520 time=1681489853 user_id=58173]
It’s not about glorifying other methods taught in tuition centre.
I believe this was what the P5 teacher said. And at P5 they are teaching model methods.. do we really want to glorify the methods taught in tuition centers or learn at the school?[/quote]
Do you realize parents here all have their own interpretations. That’s why a group of parents went to confront their HOD whether is it true their kids are either awarded full marks or zero mark if one chooses to use Algebra.
It is not up to us to interpret for her because all of us have different interpretations. Best to seek from the horse’s mouth with SEAB what their school teacher and HOD’s claim is indeed true. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2105535\" time=\"1681523009\" user_id=\"17023:
:goodpost:
It’s not about glorifying other methods taught in tuition centre.
Do you realize parents here all have their own interpretations. That’s why a group of parents went to confront their HOD whether is it true their kids are either awarded full marks or zero mark if one chooses to use Algebra.
It is not up to us to interpret for her because all of us have different interpretations. Best to seek from the horse’s mouth with SEAB what their school teacher and HOD’s claim is indeed true.
lee_yl,
Keep up all the good posts u have written, because you have nailed the issue (problem ) !
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2105535\" time=\"1681523009\" user_id=\"17023:
It is quite clear that they should ask their school for clarification. Again, a lot of it stem from the fact that her child is only primary 5. And p5 classes have not learned algebra. If she has misinterpreted, she could write in to find out and then let us know the outcome.
It’s not about glorifying other methods taught in tuition centre.
Do you realize parents here all have their own interpretations. That’s why a group of parents went to confront their HOD whether is it true their kids are either awarded full marks or zero mark if one chooses to use Algebra.
It is not up to us to interpret for her because all of us have different interpretations. Best to seek from the horse’s mouth with SEAB what their school teacher and HOD’s claim is indeed true. -
I was also advised by my tuition tch from another tuition center to use model method rather than algebra as no method marks will be awarded if final answer is wrong. My schoolteacher didn’t mention this yet though. This is really confusing sighs!
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